"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:10:35 GMT, "Don White"
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"John H." wrote in message
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Had the same thing happen when trying to register a motorcycle at Fort
Belvoir. I had a Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) instructor's card,
but
to register the bike I had to have either the basic rider's course or
advanced rider's course card. Both are well below the instructor level.
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***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H


Yeah but...when did you get that instructor's card... 1948 ??


1991, why?

BTW, not all Canadians share your unwillingness to read.

http://www.canadianvalues.ca/commentary.aspx?aid=288


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***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

Yeah..right! Quote someone from Calgary which prides itself on being a
little Houston.
Alberta's premier once said 'Let the the Eastern *******s freeze in the
dark' when complaining about selling some of his oil below market value for
the good of the country.

Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:10:35 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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Had the same thing happen when trying to register a motorcycle at Fort
Belvoir. I had a Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) instructor's card,
but
to register the bike I had to have either the basic rider's course or
advanced rider's course card. Both are well below the instructor level.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

Yeah but...when did you get that instructor's card... 1948 ??

1991, why?

BTW, not all Canadians share your unwillingness to read.

http://www.canadianvalues.ca/commentary.aspx?aid=288


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***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

Yeah..right! Quote someone from Calgary which prides itself on being a
little Houston.
Alberta's premier once said 'Let the the Eastern *******s freeze in the
dark' when complaining about selling some of his oil below market value for
the good of the country.



Why should anyone sell their product below market value? If someone in
Newfoundland wanted to buy your boat below market value would you sell
it to them? They would appreciate it. My guess is you would tell them
to let the *******s die dry. grin

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 19:34:19 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 17:10:35 GMT, "Don White"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...

Had the same thing happen when trying to register a motorcycle at Fort
Belvoir. I had a Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) instructor's card,
but
to register the bike I had to have either the basic rider's course or
advanced rider's course card. Both are well below the instructor level.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H


Yeah but...when did you get that instructor's card... 1948 ??


1991, why?

BTW, not all Canadians share your unwillingness to read.

http://www.canadianvalues.ca/commentary.aspx?aid=288


--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

Yeah..right! Quote someone from Calgary which prides itself on being a
little Houston.
Alberta's premier once said 'Let the the Eastern *******s freeze in the
dark' when complaining about selling some of his oil below market value for
the good of the country.


I quoted no one. I simply pointed out that *some* Canadians read...before
calling something 'lies'.
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***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

Take the advanced rider course given at Americade. You'll be glad you did.
Americade itself is a hoot.
Jim
MA has a pretty good rule regarding new motorcycle license applicants. If
you successfully complete an approved course of instruction the registry
waives the requirements of a formal road test and issues the motorcycle
endorsement. My son did this a couple of years ago and although I've had
a motorcycle endorsement for many years (obtained the old fashioned way),
I decided to take the course with him, just for the fun of it. It was
very worthwhile and I'd recommend it to even the most seasoned of riders.

Eisboch

"Jim" wrote in message
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Take the advanced rider course given at Americade. You'll be glad you did.
Americade itself is a hoot.
Jim



Do you remember the older, rust orange colored Softail I had in Florida?
It's the one I used when we went for the ride out through sugar cane
country. Anyway, my son Steven has that bike now. Still looks like new.
I've been eyeballing the new Ultra Classics but I think I'll stick to the
one I have. Time for new tires though.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"John H." wrote in message
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Had the same thing happen when trying to register a motorcycle at Fort
Belvoir. I had a Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) instructor's card,
but
to register the bike I had to have either the basic rider's course or
advanced rider's course card. Both are well below the instructor level.


MA has a pretty good rule regarding new motorcycle license applicants. If
you successfully complete an approved course of instruction the registry
waives the requirements of a formal road test and issues the motorcycle
endorsement. My son did this a couple of years ago and although I've had
a motorcycle endorsement for many years (obtained the old fashioned way),
I decided to take the course with him, just for the fun of it. It was
very worthwhile and I'd recommend it to even the most seasoned of riders.

Eisboch


I still carry a motorcycle endorsement I received on after passing the road
test on my Honda 50 at age 16. My last drive was on a Kawasaki
750...............a fast machine.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:07:25 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:

I still carry a motorcycle endorsement I received on after passing the road
test on my Honda 50 at age 16. My last drive was on a Kawasaki
750...............a fast machine

I can go you one better.

I have the motorcycle endorsement on my driver's license and I've
never owned a motorcycle in my life.

Never actually driven one either.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:07:25 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:

I still carry a motorcycle endorsement I received after passing the road
test on my Honda 50 at age 16. My last drive was on a Kawasaki
750...............a fast machine

I can go you one better.

I have the motorcycle endorsement on my driver's license and I've
never owned a motorcycle in my life.

Never actually driven one either.

I give...........how did you do it?

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:20:43 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:07:25 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:

I still carry a motorcycle endorsement I received after passing the road
test on my Honda 50 at age 16. My last drive was on a Kawasaki
750...............a fast machine

I can go you one better.

I have the motorcycle endorsement on my driver's license and I've
never owned a motorcycle in my life.

Never actually driven one either.

I give...........how did you do it?

I didn't. The DMV did.

When we moved from MA to CT, I applied, got my picture taken and
received a license with my (at the time) Class One with motorcycle
endorsement.

It's just followed me through every renewal. :)

What about the 200 other guys who use the same line, but are simply
BS'n?
The enforcement officer won't really know who's on the level.

I guess the real point here is that if all he has to do is carry his current
documents in the boat, he should be able to bring those same documents in,
to get the ID card. He should probably still pay the testing fee, but that
should be it.

I agree with Tom, it's just silly.

--Mike

"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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On Mar 27, 4:17?pm, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
One of my good friends just retired from the Merchant Marine after
twenty years as Captain of various tanker and super tanker vessels.

Since he retired, he purchased a boat (50 foot Hatteras convertible)
and went to see the DEP about getting the required Boating Operation
Certificate. He took all his Master's documents down to DEP HQ in
Lyme, CT and was refused - he has to take a boating course.

So I looked it up. As silly as this is, here is the official
statement on previous experience.

13 - I have a valid Coast Guard Operating License. Do I need the Safe
Boating Certificate to operate my boat?

If you have a current master, mate, or pilot license issued through
the Coast Guard, you do not need the Connecticut Safe Boating
Certificate to operate your boat. You must keep the valid license with
you at all times. You cannot use the valid Coast Guard License to
obtain your Connecticut Safe Boating Certificate. You would have to
take a boating course or provide us with proof that you have taken an
approved boating course to obtain a safe boating certificate.

Now I ask you - does that seem even reasonable? He doesn't want to
keep his documents with him at all times - not when a small, wallet
sized card is available from the state.

Freakin' unbelivable.

The CT law gives him a choice: He can carry his mater's certificate
with him or sit the exam and carry a card. He's exempt from carrying a
card as long as he carries his certificate. Sounds like the choice he
wants to make is "neither".

The law recognizes that as a master mariner he needn't demonstrate his
basic competency to operate a boat. Fine. But here's the problem;
suppose he gets stopped for inspection?

"Trust me officer, I really am a licensed master, unlimited tonnage,
and I don't need to carry a state card. Prove it? Why should I have to
prove it? Shouldn't my word be sufficient?"

What about the 200 other guys who use the same line, but are simply
BS'n?
The enforcement officer won't really know who's on the level.

Earning the merchant document exempts him from complying with the law
requiring him to take the test, but only if he carries the document
instead of a card.

Doesn't seem entirely unreasonable to me.