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OT: Wake Up And Smell The Invasion !!!!
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:51:37 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Douglas W. "Popeye" Frederick" wrote in message ... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Gunner" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 00:22:15 -0400, "Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick" wrote: You'll need proof, of course, that they're your e-mails. They'll all have to be signed Gunner Asch. Nope..they all have to originate from or several others with spam protection built in And I dont need to provide anything. You mean dick in the grand scheme of things and are simply a bit of snot flicked on the wall, that I note in disgust in passing Snicker Gunner Are you employed at the moment? Is your job currently threatened by the presence of cheaper workers? It's obvious that his job would be threatened by cheap workers even if he was employed. Here's what's NOT obvious to him: The financial structure of many American manufacturers has been completely reshaped around the idea of having goods made overseas where labor is cheaper. This trend probably won't be reversed unless we go to war with China, or when machinery is invented which can make things even cheaper at plants in this country. In other words, the system is here to stay. The other factor which pushes this trend is our price expectations. I just emailed Lands End to check my memory, but if I recall the last time I bought American made dress shirts from them, they cost $25-$30, maybe more. That was at least 10 years ago. I wonder what they'd cost now if they were still made here. I would've paid more because I tend to take good care of them, but somehow, they (and LL Bean, Van Heusen and everyone else) got the idea that it was better to have them made overseas. But, I may not be the typical buyer. No..you are not. You shop like a yuppie. Eastern nor Northwestern Yuppie at that. This relates to illegal workers because we are also accustomed to certain price levels for goods and services created here. I've paid between 99 cents and $1.79 per pound for Romaine or green leaf lettuce over the past couple of years, depending on season. I wonder how Gunner would react if lettuce suddenly cost $4.00 per pound because the harvesting had to be done by citizens who expected quite a bit more than minimum wage for the hard work. It wouldnt bother me in the slightest..as you keep forgetting something..we will pay on one end of the chain or the other. Increased costs of goods and services, or increased taxes and infrastructure costs to cover the societal costs of illegals. Chuckle..Im quite familiar with economics of this issue. Btw...it would only increase the price of a head of lettuce(US produced) by about $.17) I suspect Gunner has not spent any time in a restaurant kitchen, either. In his book about the restaurant business, Anthony Bourdain commented that if you can't speak a little Spanish, and get along well with foreigners, you can kiss your restaurant goodbye. Foreigners have been the backbone of restaurant kitchens for much longer than their immigration status has been a political football. Snicker..again you are wrong. Ive many friends who own restaurants, as well as those who work there. Most of the workers are legals, or low tier citizens. In many cases..they used to be black, now they are hispanic. Assuming you could replace many workers with high school kids (which you can't, because they don't want these jobs), and your $15.00 entree becomes much more costly. All the produce that cannot be harvested by machines will become luxury items, like lobster. Gunner has no solution for this. Odd..before the sudden influx in the last 15 yrs of illegals..I dont recall $20 bowls of soup, do you? And what percentage of illegals actually work in agriculture? Its only a small fraction of the total influx. In fact..the vast majority of ag workers are campasenos..legal seasonal workers who go home at the end of the season. They are well paid, minimum wage or better, just like a citizen would be. The government has focused on Agriculture..so it tends to be far cleaner than most other industries in the US as far as legal/illegal workforces go. Do either of you buffoons actually live where there is an illegal workforce? You twits sound like a pair of Beltway or northwestern upscale yuppies who cant find your ass with either hand. Either in college, living with mommy and daddy, or working in some job that seldom gets your hands dirty. Pitiful actually. Yall need to get out a bit more. Gunner Rule #35 "That which does not kill you, has made a huge tactical error" |
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