"Gunner" wrote in message
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:53:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20
and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants
are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These
dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.

On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who
have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as
a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US
population. Which is not true.

Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals
are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand?

Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI
and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties.

Whenever you are ready..prove your claim.


Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can
be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality. Some kids are edgy, and
require
just a little more attention. For some reason, they don't "socialize" in
quite the same way as others. It's theorized that without special
attention,
they ***MAY*** be predisposed to violence later in life. Here (NY), some
of
them end up at BOCES for a while. In other states or countries, I have no
idea what happens to them.

If you'd like to know more about this, pick up your telephone, call your
local elementary school, and ask to speak to one of the special ed
teachers.

Your weaseling and pychobabble is noted.

The comment was made that illegal aliens swamp our social and criminal
justice systems and commit crimes at a higher rate than do citizens.

You claimed it was false. I asked you to back up your claim with
cites. Now you drift off into bull**** in a transparent and rather
pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact everyone saw you stupidly
painted yourself into the corner.

The fact of the matter IS, you stupid git..that illegals DO commit
crimes at a higher rate than most citizens of the US. Crimes of
violence.

And there are clear reasons for this, none of which involve
pyschobabble and elementary school bull****.

Your denial is pathetic as is the pitiful attempts at trying to get
people to ignore you sitting in the corner surrounded by wet paint.

Gunner

You get very upset when someone shares knowledge which was gained by means
other than the internet. It upsets you even more when I suggest that you
speak to an authority from whom you could learn something interesting, like
a special ed teacher. Thank you. You've illustrated what I told you about
some people being "edgy". With kids, it's often easy to treat. But, without
treatment.....here you are.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:48:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:53:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20
and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people, and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants
are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These
dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.

On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who
have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as
a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US
population. Which is not true.

Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals
are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand?

Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI
and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties.

Whenever you are ready..prove your claim.


Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which can
be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality. Some kids are edgy, and
require
just a little more attention. For some reason, they don't "socialize" in
quite the same way as others. It's theorized that without special
attention,
they ***MAY*** be predisposed to violence later in life. Here (NY), some
of
them end up at BOCES for a while. In other states or countries, I have no
idea what happens to them.

If you'd like to know more about this, pick up your telephone, call your
local elementary school, and ask to speak to one of the special ed
teachers.

Your weaseling and pychobabble is noted.

The comment was made that illegal aliens swamp our social and criminal
justice systems and commit crimes at a higher rate than do citizens.

You claimed it was false. I asked you to back up your claim with
cites. Now you drift off into bull**** in a transparent and rather
pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact everyone saw you stupidly
painted yourself into the corner.

The fact of the matter IS, you stupid git..that illegals DO commit
crimes at a higher rate than most citizens of the US. Crimes of
violence.

And there are clear reasons for this, none of which involve
pyschobabble and elementary school bull****.

Your denial is pathetic as is the pitiful attempts at trying to get
people to ignore you sitting in the corner surrounded by wet paint.

Gunner

You get very upset when someone shares knowledge which was gained by means
other than the internet. It upsets you even more when I suggest that you
speak to an authority from whom you could learn something interesting, like
a special ed teacher. Thank you. You've illustrated what I told you about
some people being "edgy". With kids, it's often easy to treat. But, without
treatment.....here you are.

More pyschobabble on your part..more attempts to deflect.

You get all pedantic and buffoonish whenever someone shows you to be
not only wrong..but a buffoon. Seems your "edgy" is manifested by
going stupid.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

"Gunner" wrote in message
news
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:48:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:53:12 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
m...
On Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:43:04 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

Most of the 10,000,000 just want that anyway.

Its actually closer to 30,000,000 and they now make up between 20
and
25% of our prison and jail populations.

Seems they do want to just get some bucks..and kill some people,
and
rape some folks, and....

Gunner

So, they're just like everyone else.

Are those your desires? Not mine.

Gunner

Clarification: A given percentage of any population will share certain
characteristics. Certain dolts want to believe that illegal immigrants
are
made up of a higher percentage of *****VIOLENT CRIMINALS*****. These
dolts
have no information to back this up. But, in this way, this sample
population is the same as any other.

On the other hand..certain other dolts think that those criminals who
have violated our laws by simply being here..and who use the border as
a get out of jail free card..are equally as violent as the US
population. Which is not true.

Tell you what..how about providing cites to your claim that illegals
are as violent as citizens. Say..per hundred thousand?

Ill be waiting for your cites. With my own, both from the DOJ, the FBI
and the Border Patrol , not to mention LA and San Diego Counties.

Whenever you are ready..prove your claim.


Your sources won't address the characteristic I'm referring to, which
can
be
observed in early childhood. It's biological and not related to good/bad
parenting, nor is it related to nationality. Some kids are edgy, and
require
just a little more attention. For some reason, they don't "socialize" in
quite the same way as others. It's theorized that without special
attention,
they ***MAY*** be predisposed to violence later in life. Here (NY), some
of
them end up at BOCES for a while. In other states or countries, I have
no
idea what happens to them.

If you'd like to know more about this, pick up your telephone, call your
local elementary school, and ask to speak to one of the special ed
teachers.

Your weaseling and pychobabble is noted.

The comment was made that illegal aliens swamp our social and criminal
justice systems and commit crimes at a higher rate than do citizens.

You claimed it was false. I asked you to back up your claim with
cites. Now you drift off into bull**** in a transparent and rather
pathetic attempt to deflect from the fact everyone saw you stupidly
painted yourself into the corner.

The fact of the matter IS, you stupid git..that illegals DO commit
crimes at a higher rate than most citizens of the US. Crimes of
violence.

And there are clear reasons for this, none of which involve
pyschobabble and elementary school bull****.

Your denial is pathetic as is the pitiful attempts at trying to get
people to ignore you sitting in the corner surrounded by wet paint.

Gunner

You get very upset when someone shares knowledge which was gained by means
other than the internet. It upsets you even more when I suggest that you
speak to an authority from whom you could learn something interesting,
like
a special ed teacher. Thank you. You've illustrated what I told you about
some people being "edgy". With kids, it's often easy to treat. But,
without
treatment.....here you are.

More pyschobabble on your part..more attempts to deflect.

You get all pedantic and buffoonish whenever someone shows you to be
not only wrong..but a buffoon. Seems your "edgy" is manifested by
going stupid.

Gunner

You haven't shown me anything, actually. All you've said is that illegal
aliens are "more likely" to commit violent crimes than members of the legal
population of this country. Any statistics professor could help you with
that, although you'd probably get upset and call him a fag.

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:15:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

More pyschobabble on your part..more attempts to deflect.

You get all pedantic and buffoonish whenever someone shows you to be
not only wrong..but a buffoon. Seems your "edgy" is manifested by
going stupid.

Gunner

You haven't shown me anything, actually. All you've said is that illegal
aliens are "more likely" to commit violent crimes than members of the legal
population of this country. Any statistics professor could help you with
that, although you'd probably get upset and call him a fag.

Provide yours..then Ill refute with mine.

Double dog dare you.

Gunner

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some
want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 03:43:05 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:15:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

More pyschobabble on your part..more attempts to deflect.

You get all pedantic and buffoonish whenever someone shows you to be
not only wrong..but a buffoon. Seems your "edgy" is manifested by
going stupid.

Gunner

You haven't shown me anything, actually. All you've said is that illegal
aliens are "more likely" to commit violent crimes than members of the legal
population of this country. Any statistics professor could help you with
that, although you'd probably get upset and call him a fag.

Provide yours.

But...you are the one making the claim.

"David Johnston" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 03:43:05 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:15:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

More pyschobabble on your part..more attempts to deflect.

You get all pedantic and buffoonish whenever someone shows you to be
not only wrong..but a buffoon. Seems your "edgy" is manifested by
going stupid.

Gunner

You haven't shown me anything, actually. All you've said is that illegal
aliens are "more likely" to commit violent crimes than members of the
legal
population of this country. Any statistics professor could help you with
that, although you'd probably get upset and call him a fag.

Provide yours.

But...you are the one making the claim.

And he claims to be a Usenet etiquette expert... :-)

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:15:22 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

More pyschobabble on your part..more attempts to deflect.

You get all pedantic and buffoonish whenever someone shows you to be
not only wrong..but a buffoon. Seems your "edgy" is manifested by
going stupid.

Gunner

You haven't shown me anything, actually. All you've said is that illegal
aliens are "more likely" to commit violent crimes than members of the
legal
population of this country. Any statistics professor could help you with
that, although you'd probably get upset and call him a fag.

Provide yours..then Ill refute with mine.

Double dog dare you.

Gunner


First of all, someone here already provided the stats which refute your
silly theory. There's no point in my repeating it. I *will* do something for
you, though. Tell me what town & state you live in, and give me you phone
number. I'll contact the nearest high school or college, find a statistics
teacher, and have that person get in touch with you. If you can shut the
phuque up long enough to listen to them, you'll learn something.

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:26:34 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

population of this country. Any statistics professor could help you with
that, although you'd probably get upset and call him a fag.

Provide yours..then Ill refute with mine.

Double dog dare you.

Gunner


First of all, someone here already provided the stats which refute your
silly theory. There's no point in my repeating it. I *will* do something for
you, though. Tell me what town & state you live in, and give me you phone
number. I'll contact the nearest high school or college, find a statistics
teacher, and have that person get in touch with you. If you can shut the
phuque up long enough to listen to them, you'll learn something.

Ah..no. They provided Some cites from Some locations

I strongly suggest you review exactly what I claimed.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"