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" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
. .. Just what is it in this previous post that you are eluding to that I don't know? Be specific. Specific? Sure. You're a tautological buffoon who sits in his mother's basement endlessly trying to emulate his intellectual superiors by engaging in fruitless argument over anything and everything all the while never realizing that he is merely dribbling and drooling vacuous statements in a torrent of mental masturbation leading to the self-delusion that he is brilliantly mastering the subject when in fact those who actually contribute meaningful, educated and literate commentary on both sides of any discussion secretly laugh their collective asses off watching the one man clown show that is you. Specific enough? LOL! That has to be the longest, but most accurate, sentence I have ever read. ;-) Without taking sides in this part of the discussion, I have to say it was a nicely crafted sentence. Hints of cherry & apricot, with a finish of almond. It should age well. |
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message . .. Harry Krause wrote: DSK wrote: Harry Krause wrote: As opposed to the US system, where, if you are one of the nearly 50 million without health insurance or the means to pay cash, you're likely to get little or no care at all for serious medical problems, and if you do get help, you sit and wait and wait and wait while you lose time from work and then you lose your crummy job. A crummy job is not much loss, is it? Waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting for FREE health care is not that big a problem, is it? If there was such a thing as free gasoline, imagine how long you'd have to wait in line at the pump. DSK That's pretty smug of you. A crummy job often is the only one available for some people. Life isn't fair. Is if fair that the rabbit gets killed and eaten by the fox? Should we outlaw foxes killing and eating rabbits? With your logic it should be outlawed. If you aren't going to take care of yourself and improve your lot in life then why should others have to do it for you? We've been through this before. Think hard. About 8 months ago. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message . .. Finland? A socialistic country? This is funny. Tell me more. I'll make you a deal. You explain why a socialist country could not rate higher in terms of satisfaction, and if you do that, I'll spend my entire afternoon finding links for you, and not insult you at all. Their citizens, or captives, don't know any better or they just enjoy having everything feed to them in small portions. Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can see a doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now. The poster boy returns! If people in a certain country like the life they live, you think they're wrong? I never said they were wrong. I implied that they didn't know that socialism stifles freedom and creativity. Still why is the health care people receive in the US better than anywhere else in the world, even those socialist countries? |
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Don White wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: " JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message . .. Don White wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Jack Goff wrote: The separation between yourself and Jack Goff (childish namecalling and all...) is immense. I'm superior in every way. I even live in a superior country. I'm sorry for you, Don. :-) Don't know why you run from your nickname, Jackoff. It suits you to a tee. Jackoff should stick with what he does best. The United Nations lists Canada as one of the best 3 or 4 places in the world to live year after year. The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings surveys. Such as? Here's one. There are several about: http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005 ROTF! The Economist? Nothing more than a European rag as obviously reflected in their ratings. Absurd. The Economist is one of the most respected publications in the world. And as I said there are any number such surveys extant. The US no longer leads the pack in such important areas as democracy, freedom of the press, lowest infant mortality rates, availability of health care, et cetera. Finland, usually, leads the pack of quality nations. Finland? A socialistic country? This is funny. Tell me more. I'll make you a deal. You explain why a socialist country could not rate higher in terms of satisfaction, and if you do that, I'll spend my entire afternoon finding links for you, and not insult you at all. Their citizens, or captives, don't know any better or they just enjoy having everything feed to them in small portions. Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can see a doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now. If you don't mind paying $700.00 - 800.00 out of pocket, you can get an MRI scan within a week or two here at a private clinic. And, percentage of your income do you gladly give to your national and provincial governments every year? |
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You're a tautological buffoon who sits in his mother's basement
endlessly trying to emulate his intellectual superiors by engaging in fruitless argument over anything and everything all the while never realizing that he is merely dribbling and drooling vacuous statements in a torrent of mental masturbation leading to the self-delusion that he is brilliantly mastering the subject when in fact those who actually contribute meaningful, educated and literate commentary on both sides of any discussion secretly laugh their collective asses off watching the one man clown show that is you. Specific enough? LOL! That has to be the longest, but most accurate, sentence I have ever read. ;-) It's laser sighted-accurate... applies to several people too... a veritable MIRV of a sentence... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: Without taking sides in this part of the discussion, I have to say it was a nicely crafted sentence. Hints of cherry & apricot, with a finish of almond. It should age well. Indeed. I'm tempted to file off the serial numbers and take it home with me, for future use on asuitable occasions! DSK |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings surveys. Such as? Here's one. There are several about: http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005 LOL. I have to give you an "A" for effort, Harry. The US is far from being in the "dumper" and your claim is a bit misleading. According to the UN Human Development Index (HDI), the US hasn't led or come close to leading the list since at least 1980 but it's ranking is still up there with little mathematical score difference between it and the top of the list. It is interesting that the countries that have led the list over the years tend to be more socialistic in their government. Nice try, though. :-) Eisboch What's even more interesting is that, you being the exception (I think), most of the people here who depict socialism to be evil have absolutely no idea what it really is. At least it's entertaining to witness the ideas they pull outta their asses. :-) Why don't you enlighten us as to why we should accept socialism as a way of life? If you can't explain why it is such a good thing then you are just being argumentative. I don't have to explain it. If a survey of human beings indicates that they like their country, who the **** are we to criticize their economic system? Having said that, I know why you do it: You lump all socialist countries into one big category, so you think Finland equals the USSR. Do as you wish. Did you forget to take your lithium today Doug? You are the one that is getting all hot and bothered because people are not taking your word as gospel regarding the socio-economic systems you prefer. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message . .. Harry Krause wrote: DSK wrote: Harry Krause wrote: As opposed to the US system, where, if you are one of the nearly 50 million without health insurance or the means to pay cash, you're likely to get little or no care at all for serious medical problems, and if you do get help, you sit and wait and wait and wait while you lose time from work and then you lose your crummy job. A crummy job is not much loss, is it? Waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting for FREE health care is not that big a problem, is it? If there was such a thing as free gasoline, imagine how long you'd have to wait in line at the pump. DSK That's pretty smug of you. A crummy job often is the only one available for some people. Life isn't fair. Is if fair that the rabbit gets killed and eaten by the fox? Should we outlaw foxes killing and eating rabbits? With your logic it should be outlawed. If you aren't going to take care of yourself and improve your lot in life then why should others have to do it for you? We've been through this before. Think hard. About 8 months ago. Oh great one, please help me for I am too dumb to do a google search on you past imparted wisdom. |
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On 3 Aug 2006 06:16:27 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 3 Aug 2006 04:32:37 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 2 Aug 2006 12:51:29 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 2 Aug 2006 06:11:49 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: Slow steady wins the race. I don't think John Force would buy into that. John Force is an idiot. And drag racing sucks - unless it's on the street and it's a Mustang or some crappy rice burner. That's when the 'Vette teaches 'em a lesson. :) John Force is a self made multi millionaire. He started with nothing, made a fortune. Drag racing is one of the most technologically advanced forms of piston engine racing there is. Right. Ever hear of F1 racing? Yes, why? Drag racing is still one of the most technologically advanced forms of piston engine racing there is. At 6000+ horsepower, an F1 engine is a horsepower midget in comparison at around 750 hp. John Force probably started with much less than you, and built a multi million dollar conglomerate. Have you? Yep. Yeah, sure...... Stick to things you know about Bassy... Just what is it in this previous post that you are eluding to that I don't know? Be specific. Specific? Sure. You're a tautological buffoon who sits in his mother's basement endlessly trying to emulate his intellectual superiors by engaging in fruitless argument over anything and everything all the while never realizing that he is merely dribbling and drooling vacuous statements in a torrent of mental masturbation leading to the self-delusion that he is brilliantly mastering the subject when in fact those who actually contribute meaningful, educated and literate commentary on both sides of any discussion secretly laugh their collective asses off watching the one man clown show that is you. Specific enough? Here, here! |
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Bert Robbins" wrote in message . .. Finland? A socialistic country? This is funny. Tell me more. I'll make you a deal. You explain why a socialist country could not rate higher in terms of satisfaction, and if you do that, I'll spend my entire afternoon finding links for you, and not insult you at all. Their citizens, or captives, don't know any better or they just enjoy having everything feed to them in small portions. Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can see a doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now. The poster boy returns! If people in a certain country like the life they live, you think they're wrong? I never said they were wrong. I implied that they didn't know that socialism stifles freedom and creativity. Still why is the health care people receive in the US better than anywhere else in the world, even those socialist countries? I suspect the Finns know exactly why they have the system they have, and would have a different one if it appealed to them. Finland was a province and then a grand duchy under Sweden from the 12th to the 19th centuries and an autonomous grand duchy of Russia after 1809. It won its complete independence in 1917. During World War II, it was able to successfully defend its freedom and resist invasions by the Soviet Union - albeit with some loss of territory. In the subsequent half century, the Finns made a remarkable transformation from a farm/forest economy to a diversified modern industrial economy; per capita income is now on par with Western Europe. As a member of the European Union, Finland was the only Nordic state to join the euro system at its initiation in January 1999. Literacy: definition: age 15 and over can read and write total population: 100% male: 100% female: 100% (2000 est.) Economy-Overview: Finland has a highly industrialized, largely free-market economy with per capita output roughly that of the UK, France, Germany, and Italy. Its key economic sector is manufacturing - principally the wood, metals, engineering, telecommunications, and electronics industries. Trade is important; exports equal two-fifths of GDP. Finland excels in high-tech exports, e.g., mobile phones. Except for timber and several minerals, Finland depends on imports of raw materials, energy, and some components for manufactured goods. Because of the climate, agricultural development is limited to maintaining self-sufficiency in basic products. Forestry, an important export earner, provides a secondary occupation for the rural population. Rapidly increasing integration with Western Europe - Finland was one of the 12 countries joining the European Economic and Monetary Union (EMU) - will dominate the economic picture over the next several years. High unemployment remains a persistent problem. elections: president elected by popular vote for a six-year term (eligible for a second term); election last held 15 January 2006 (next to be held January 2012); the president appoints the prime minister and deputy prime minister from the majority party or the majority coalition after parliamentary elections and the parliament must approve the appointment Legislative: unicameral Parliament or Eduskunta (200 seats; members are elected by popular vote on a proportional basis to serve four-year terms) Political parties and leaders: Center Party or Kesk [Matti VANHANEN]; Christian Democrats or KD [Paivi RASANEN]; Green League or VIHR [Tarja CRONBERG]; Left Alliance or VAS composed of People's Democratic League and Democratic Alternative [Martti KORHONEN]; National Coalition (conservative) Party or Kok [Jyrki KATAINEN]; Social Democratic Party or SDP [Eero HEINALUOMA]; Swedish People's Party or SFP [Stefan WALLIN] |
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"thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:50:56 -0400, Eisboch wrote: I don't know if the "majority" are or are not, but don't you see the difference in thinking? The average "Joe Swede" looks at an American moving backwards and can't, for the life of him, understand why and may even long for the opportunity that he thinks the American has. It might be the human condition. The grass is always greener . . . Thankfully, for me. If my grandparents hadn't chose to pursue greener pastures .... I wouldn't be here. (Would I? Who knows ...) Eisboch |
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Bert Robbins" wrote in message . .. Harry Krause wrote: DSK wrote: Harry Krause wrote: As opposed to the US system, where, if you are one of the nearly 50 million without health insurance or the means to pay cash, you're likely to get little or no care at all for serious medical problems, and if you do get help, you sit and wait and wait and wait while you lose time from work and then you lose your crummy job. A crummy job is not much loss, is it? Waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting for FREE health care is not that big a problem, is it? If there was such a thing as free gasoline, imagine how long you'd have to wait in line at the pump. DSK That's pretty smug of you. A crummy job often is the only one available for some people. Life isn't fair. Is if fair that the rabbit gets killed and eaten by the fox? Should we outlaw foxes killing and eating rabbits? With your logic it should be outlawed. If you aren't going to take care of yourself and improve your lot in life then why should others have to do it for you? We've been through this before. Think hard. About 8 months ago. Oh great one, please help me for I am too dumb to do a google search on you past imparted wisdom. I said think, not ask. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... The difference in income (adjusted for inflation) between fathers & sons since the 1950s is getting smaller & smaller. You could pick this apart without knowing more, but the news report contained all the necessary information to understand it better. Yup. Getting more and more like Sweden everyday. Eisboch |
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 3 Aug 2006 06:16:27 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 3 Aug 2006 04:32:37 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 2 Aug 2006 12:51:29 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 2 Aug 2006 06:11:49 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: Slow steady wins the race. I don't think John Force would buy into that. John Force is an idiot. And drag racing sucks - unless it's on the street and it's a Mustang or some crappy rice burner. That's when the 'Vette teaches 'em a lesson. :) John Force is a self made multi millionaire. He started with nothing, made a fortune. Drag racing is one of the most technologically advanced forms of piston engine racing there is. Right. Ever hear of F1 racing? Yes, why? Drag racing is still one of the most technologically advanced forms of piston engine racing there is. At 6000+ horsepower, an F1 engine is a horsepower midget in comparison at around 750 hp. John Force probably started with much less than you, and built a multi million dollar conglomerate. Have you? Yep. Yeah, sure...... Stick to things you know about Bassy... Just what is it in this previous post that you are eluding to that I don't know? Be specific. Specific? Sure. You're a tautological buffoon who sits in his mother's basement endlessly trying to emulate his intellectual superiors by engaging in fruitless argument over anything and everything all the while never realizing that he is merely dribbling and drooling vacuous statements in a torrent of mental masturbation leading to the self-delusion that he is brilliantly mastering the subject when in fact those who actually contribute meaningful, educated and literate commentary on both sides of any discussion secretly laugh their collective asses off watching the one man clown show that is you. Specific enough? Nice. and you expect people to think you're credible? I know a lot about racing. But, you instantly, and wrongly eluded that I didn't. So, when called to the mat, all you can do is come up with childish name calling and petty insults. And to top it off, ALL of your above blather has absolutely no truth, and further, you don't know a damned thing about me, so it was posted in pure ignorance. |
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DSK wrote: You're a tautological buffoon who sits in his mother's basement endlessly trying to emulate his intellectual superiors by engaging in fruitless argument over anything and everything all the while never realizing that he is merely dribbling and drooling vacuous statements in a torrent of mental masturbation leading to the self-delusion that he is brilliantly mastering the subject when in fact those who actually contribute meaningful, educated and literate commentary on both sides of any discussion secretly laugh their collective asses off watching the one man clown show that is you. Specific enough? LOL! That has to be the longest, but most accurate, sentence I have ever read. ;-) It's laser sighted-accurate... applies to several people too... a veritable MIRV of a sentence... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: Without taking sides in this part of the discussion, I have to say it was a nicely crafted sentence. Hints of cherry & apricot, with a finish of almond. It should age well. Indeed. I'm tempted to file off the serial numbers and take it home with me, for future use on asuitable occasions! DSK Perhaps we should nominate it for the rec.boats longest, most accurate and most elegant sentence awards so it will live in infamy. :-) |
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:34:27 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:
We have about 12 to 15 million people that want a better place to live than central America and I wonder why they have not just passed through the US to Canada? What makes you think they aren't? Canada is more welcoming to the migrant, with a net migration rate of 5.85 migrants/1000. This is opposed to the U.S. rate of 3.18/1000. As with most First World nations, Canada uses immigration to maintain a growing economy. Canada also has a considerable illegal migrant issue. The difference is they make it easier for the illegal to become legal than we do. |
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"JimH" wrote in message oups.com... DSK wrote: You're a tautological buffoon who sits in his mother's basement endlessly trying to emulate his intellectual superiors by engaging in fruitless argument over anything and everything all the while never realizing that he is merely dribbling and drooling vacuous statements in a torrent of mental masturbation leading to the self-delusion that he is brilliantly mastering the subject when in fact those who actually contribute meaningful, educated and literate commentary on both sides of any discussion secretly laugh their collective asses off watching the one man clown show that is you. Specific enough? LOL! That has to be the longest, but most accurate, sentence I have ever read. ;-) It's laser sighted-accurate... applies to several people too... a veritable MIRV of a sentence... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: Without taking sides in this part of the discussion, I have to say it was a nicely crafted sentence. Hints of cherry & apricot, with a finish of almond. It should age well. Indeed. I'm tempted to file off the serial numbers and take it home with me, for future use on asuitable occasions! DSK Perhaps we should nominate it for the rec.boats longest, most accurate and most eloquent sentence awards so it will live in infamy. :-) Edit: Damn spell check. Eloquent, not elegant. ;-) |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... If you don't mind paying $700.00 - 800.00 out of pocket, you can get an MRI scan within a week or two here at a private clinic. If Joe USA with a company paid HMO health plan had to do that, he'd scream bloody murder. Those without a health plan will get it for free, if it is related to a life threatening injury or disease. HMOs and PTOs screwed up health insurance here in the USA royally, IMHO. We should go back to inexpensive major medical coverage for catastrophic injury or illness. The rest we should pay for and it should be free for those that can't. Eisboch |
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:36:47 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:
Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can see a doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515 |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "Don White" wrote in message ... If you don't mind paying $700.00 - 800.00 out of pocket, you can get an MRI scan within a week or two here at a private clinic. If Joe USA with a company paid HMO health plan had to do that, he'd scream bloody murder. Those without a health plan will get it for free, if it is related to a life threatening injury or disease. HMOs and PTOs screwed up health insurance here in the USA royally, IMHO. We should go back to inexpensive major medical coverage for catastrophic injury or illness. The rest we should pay for and it should be free for those that can't. Eisboch I agree. If I need an x-ray and money's tight, I can put it on a credit card. And, there's never a problem with $60 office visits to the internist. Meanwhile, I'm paying $300 a month for Blue Choice, for medical needs which may never happen. I'd love to have a policy that covered everything over X amount - $2K a year, or some such thing. |
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"thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:36:47 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote: Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can see a doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515 " by Physicians for a National Health Program " LOL. No bias there. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:36:47 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote: Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can see a doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515 " by Physicians for a National Health Program " LOL. No bias there. Yeah. Like Doctors Without Borders, or Albert Schweitzer. Blinded by an agenda. |
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:12:32 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:
Still why is the health care people receive in the US better than anywhere else in the world, even those socialist countries? I'm not sure that's an accurate statement. I have heard it argued that we have the best emergency health care system, with all the bells and whistles, but if you were to look at statistics directly related to health care, life expectancy, infant mortality, etc. we aren't at the top of the list. I posted this link to another of your posts: http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515 |
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"thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:36:47 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote: Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can see a doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515 "Most of what we hear about the Canadian health care system is negative; in particular, the long waiting times for medical procedures. But we found that waiting times affect few patients, only 3.5% of Canadians vs. 0.7% of people in the U.S." How is that not significant? If I wrote the headline, it would read: "Five times as many Canadian patients are affected by long waiting times compared to American patients". The fact that the author downplays that important fact, yet hypes another fact like "9.9% of U.S. respondents couldn't afford medicine vs. 5.1% in Canada", shows his bias. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... If you don't mind paying $700.00 - 800.00 out of pocket, you can get an MRI scan within a week or two here at a private clinic. If Joe USA with a company paid HMO health plan had to do that, he'd scream bloody murder. Those without a health plan will get it for free, if it is related to a life threatening injury or disease. HMOs and PTOs screwed up health insurance here in the USA royally, IMHO. We should go back to inexpensive major medical coverage for catastrophic injury or illness. The rest we should pay for and it should be free for those that can't. Eisboch I agree. If I need an x-ray and money's tight, I can put it on a credit card. And, there's never a problem with $60 office visits to the internist. Meanwhile, I'm paying $300 a month for Blue Choice, for medical needs which may never happen. I'd love to have a policy that covered everything over X amount - $2K a year, or some such thing. Then get a Medical Savings Account: http://www.forhealthfreedom.org/Publ...hIns/MSAs.html |
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"thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:12:32 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote: Still why is the health care people receive in the US better than anywhere else in the world, even those socialist countries? I'm not sure that's an accurate statement. I have heard it argued that we have the best emergency health care system, with all the bells and whistles, but if you were to look at statistics directly related to health care, life expectancy, infant mortality, etc. we aren't at the top of the list. I posted this link to another of your posts: http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515 If money were no object, and you could choose to have a lifesaving procedure anywhere in the world, where would you choose to have it done? |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Jack Goff" wrote in message ... While the separate arguments he makes looks pretty good on their face, when you put them together it seems a bit like leaving the hen house unlocked, and handing the keys to the fox. Basically, let the bad oil companies alone set the price for the raw material they need, as they see fit? How's that gonna work? What are you talking about??? The henhouse is *already* unlocked! The presence of non-industry gamblers in the hedging process is the largest part of the problem. Are you saying they *belong* in the futures market because they somehow keep the oil companies honest??? The world according to Doug Kanter, aka JoeSpareBedroom, sure must be a rigid one. If I have money to invest or speculate on commodities or futures why should I be limited to specific vehicles? Your world doesn't sound like a place most of us Americans want to live in. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:12:32 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote: Still why is the health care people receive in the US better than anywhere else in the world, even those socialist countries? I'm not sure that's an accurate statement. I have heard it argued that we have the best emergency health care system, with all the bells and whistles, but if you were to look at statistics directly related to health care, life expectancy, infant mortality, etc. we aren't at the top of the list. I posted this link to another of your posts: http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515 If money were no object, and you could choose to have a lifesaving procedure anywhere in the world, where would you choose to have it done? Israel. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:12:32 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote: Still why is the health care people receive in the US better than anywhere else in the world, even those socialist countries? I'm not sure that's an accurate statement. I have heard it argued that we have the best emergency health care system, with all the bells and whistles, but if you were to look at statistics directly related to health care, life expectancy, infant mortality, etc. we aren't at the top of the list. I posted this link to another of your posts: http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515 If money were no object, and you could choose to have a lifesaving procedure anywhere in the world, where would you choose to have it done? Israel. Why? It seems as if their best doctors are working in NY. |
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Bert Robbins" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings surveys. Such as? Here's one. There are several about: http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005 LOL. I have to give you an "A" for effort, Harry. The US is far from being in the "dumper" and your claim is a bit misleading. According to the UN Human Development Index (HDI), the US hasn't led or come close to leading the list since at least 1980 but it's ranking is still up there with little mathematical score difference between it and the top of the list. It is interesting that the countries that have led the list over the years tend to be more socialistic in their government. Nice try, though. :-) Eisboch What's even more interesting is that, you being the exception (I think), most of the people here who depict socialism to be evil have absolutely no idea what it really is. At least it's entertaining to witness the ideas they pull outta their asses. :-) Why don't you enlighten us as to why we should accept socialism as a way of life? If you can't explain why it is such a good thing then you are just being argumentative. I don't have to explain it. If a survey of human beings indicates that they like their country, who the **** are we to criticize their economic system? Having said that, I know why you do it: You lump all socialist countries into one big category, so you think Finland equals the USSR. Do as you wish. Did you forget to take your lithium today Doug? You are the one that is getting all hot and bothered because people are not taking your word as gospel regarding the socio-economic systems you prefer. I prefer this one, so I live here. You, on the other hand, think you have information that the Finns are unaware of. Finland is still a socialist state and all of the freedoms of a country like and only like the US are not available to them. |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
"NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... If you don't mind paying $700.00 - 800.00 out of pocket, you can get an MRI scan within a week or two here at a private clinic. If Joe USA with a company paid HMO health plan had to do that, he'd scream bloody murder. Those without a health plan will get it for free, if it is related to a life threatening injury or disease. HMOs and PTOs screwed up health insurance here in the USA royally, IMHO. We should go back to inexpensive major medical coverage for catastrophic injury or illness. The rest we should pay for and it should be free for those that can't. Eisboch I agree. If I need an x-ray and money's tight, I can put it on a credit card. And, there's never a problem with $60 office visits to the internist. Meanwhile, I'm paying $300 a month for Blue Choice, for medical needs which may never happen. I'd love to have a policy that covered everything over X amount - $2K a year, or some such thing. Then get a Medical Savings Account: http://www.forhealthfreedom.org/Publ...hIns/MSAs.html Yeah...that's on my list of things to do during vacation, when the damned phones stop ringing. Speaking of work, can I interest you in 1150 cases (9,200 64 oz bottles) of Indian Summer apple juice? $16.00 per case, delivered, but you have to take the whole truck. $18,400.00. Net 10 days. |
Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
basskisser wrote:
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 3 Aug 2006 06:16:27 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 3 Aug 2006 04:32:37 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 2 Aug 2006 12:51:29 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 2 Aug 2006 06:11:49 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: Slow steady wins the race. I don't think John Force would buy into that. John Force is an idiot. And drag racing sucks - unless it's on the street and it's a Mustang or some crappy rice burner. That's when the 'Vette teaches 'em a lesson. :) John Force is a self made multi millionaire. He started with nothing, made a fortune. Drag racing is one of the most technologically advanced forms of piston engine racing there is. Right. Ever hear of F1 racing? Yes, why? Drag racing is still one of the most technologically advanced forms of piston engine racing there is. At 6000+ horsepower, an F1 engine is a horsepower midget in comparison at around 750 hp. John Force probably started with much less than you, and built a multi million dollar conglomerate. Have you? Yep. Yeah, sure...... Stick to things you know about Bassy... Just what is it in this previous post that you are eluding to that I don't know? Be specific. Specific? Sure. You're a tautological buffoon who sits in his mother's basement endlessly trying to emulate his intellectual superiors by engaging in fruitless argument over anything and everything all the while never realizing that he is merely dribbling and drooling vacuous statements in a torrent of mental masturbation leading to the self-delusion that he is brilliantly mastering the subject when in fact those who actually contribute meaningful, educated and literate commentary on both sides of any discussion secretly laugh their collective asses off watching the one man clown show that is you. Specific enough? Nice. and you expect people to think you're credible? I know a lot about racing. But, you instantly, and wrongly eluded that I didn't. So, when called to the mat, all you can do is come up with childish name calling and petty insults. And to top it off, ALL of your above blather has absolutely no truth, and further, you don't know a damned thing about me, so it was posted in pure ignorance. Kevin, you were described and slammed in one sentence and yet you still persist. I have to give you credit for tenacity. |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
"NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:12:32 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote: Still why is the health care people receive in the US better than anywhere else in the world, even those socialist countries? I'm not sure that's an accurate statement. I have heard it argued that we have the best emergency health care system, with all the bells and whistles, but if you were to look at statistics directly related to health care, life expectancy, infant mortality, etc. we aren't at the top of the list. I posted this link to another of your posts: http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515 If money were no object, and you could choose to have a lifesaving procedure anywhere in the world, where would you choose to have it done? Israel. Why? It seems as if their best doctors are working in NY. Friends there are amazed at the quality of the care, and they've lived here, too. |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net... "thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:36:47 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote: Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can see a doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515 "Most of what we hear about the Canadian health care system is negative; in particular, the long waiting times for medical procedures. But we found that waiting times affect few patients, only 3.5% of Canadians vs. 0.7% of people in the U.S." How is that not significant? If I wrote the headline, it would read: "Five times as many Canadian patients are affected by long waiting times compared to American patients". The fact that the author downplays that important fact, yet hypes another fact like "9.9% of U.S. respondents couldn't afford medicine vs. 5.1% in Canada", shows his bias. No matter what country you're talking about, why should it EVER be a luxury item? I know the usual drivel: It's not mentioned in the Constitution, but that's not a good enough reason. |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:34:27 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote: We have about 12 to 15 million people that want a better place to live than central America and I wonder why they have not just passed through the US to Canada? What makes you think they aren't? Canada is more welcoming to the migrant, with a net migration rate of 5.85 migrants/1000. This is opposed to the U.S. rate of 3.18/1000. As with most First World nations, Canada uses immigration to maintain a growing economy. Canada also has a considerable illegal migrant issue. The difference is they make it easier for the illegal to become legal than we do. How many unskilled persons have been allowed to immigrate into Canada within the last 25 years? Remember, I said unskilled persons have been allowed to immigrate into Canada? Allowing wealth people from Asia and Europe doesn't count. |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. .. If you can't explain why it is such a good thing then you are just being argumentative. I don't have to explain it. If a survey of human beings indicates that they like their country, who the **** are we to criticize their economic system? Having said that, I know why you do it: You lump all socialist countries into one big category, so you think Finland equals the USSR. Do as you wish. Did you forget to take your lithium today Doug? You are the one that is getting all hot and bothered because people are not taking your word as gospel regarding the socio-economic systems you prefer. I prefer this one, so I live here. You, on the other hand, think you have information that the Finns are unaware of. Finland is still a socialist state and all of the freedoms of a country like and only like the US are not available to them. Which freedoms? |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:12:32 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote: Still why is the health care people receive in the US better than anywhere else in the world, even those socialist countries? I'm not sure that's an accurate statement. I have heard it argued that we have the best emergency health care system, with all the bells and whistles, but if you were to look at statistics directly related to health care, life expectancy, infant mortality, etc. we aren't at the top of the list. I posted this link to another of your posts: http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515 If money were no object, and you could choose to have a lifesaving procedure anywhere in the world, where would you choose to have it done? Israel. Shimon Glick, M.D., Professor of Internal Medicine and Chairman of the Division of Medicine at Ben Gurion University Faculty of Health Sciences in Beer Sheva, Israel disagrees with you: " And yet, the quality of health ca there is no place in the world you can get better than in America. " http://tinyurl.com/ouozd |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ink.net... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Don White" wrote in message ... If you don't mind paying $700.00 - 800.00 out of pocket, you can get an MRI scan within a week or two here at a private clinic. If Joe USA with a company paid HMO health plan had to do that, he'd scream bloody murder. Those without a health plan will get it for free, if it is related to a life threatening injury or disease. HMOs and PTOs screwed up health insurance here in the USA royally, IMHO. We should go back to inexpensive major medical coverage for catastrophic injury or illness. The rest we should pay for and it should be free for those that can't. Eisboch I agree. If I need an x-ray and money's tight, I can put it on a credit card. And, there's never a problem with $60 office visits to the internist. Meanwhile, I'm paying $300 a month for Blue Choice, for medical needs which may never happen. I'd love to have a policy that covered everything over X amount - $2K a year, or some such thing. Then get a Medical Savings Account: http://www.forhealthfreedom.org/Publ...hIns/MSAs.html Yeah...that's on my list of things to do during vacation, when the damned phones stop ringing. Speaking of work, can I interest you in 1150 cases (9,200 64 oz bottles) of Indian Summer apple juice? $16.00 per case, delivered, but you have to take the whole truck. $18,400.00. Net 10 days. Plastic or glass bottles? |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
thunder wrote:
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:36:47 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote: Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can see a doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now. http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515 National Health Care, no thanks. |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Jack Goff" wrote in message ... While the separate arguments he makes looks pretty good on their face, when you put them together it seems a bit like leaving the hen house unlocked, and handing the keys to the fox. Basically, let the bad oil companies alone set the price for the raw material they need, as they see fit? How's that gonna work? What are you talking about??? The henhouse is *already* unlocked! The presence of non-industry gamblers in the hedging process is the largest part of the problem. Are you saying they *belong* in the futures market because they somehow keep the oil companies honest??? The world according to Doug Kanter, aka JoeSpareBedroom, sure must be a rigid one. If I have money to invest or speculate on commodities or futures why should I be limited to specific vehicles? Your world doesn't sound like a place most of us Americans want to live in. It's already that kind of world. Walk into a brokerage firm and tell them you want to play with uncovered call options. There's a 50/50 chance that they'll walk you to the door because the regulations are designed to prevent people from jumping off bridges. |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net... "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message nk.net... "thunder" wrote in message ... On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:12:32 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote: Still why is the health care people receive in the US better than anywhere else in the world, even those socialist countries? I'm not sure that's an accurate statement. I have heard it argued that we have the best emergency health care system, with all the bells and whistles, but if you were to look at statistics directly related to health care, life expectancy, infant mortality, etc. we aren't at the top of the list. I posted this link to another of your posts: http://www.zmag.org/content/showarti...m?ItemID=10515 If money were no object, and you could choose to have a lifesaving procedure anywhere in the world, where would you choose to have it done? Israel. Shimon Glick, M.D., Professor of Internal Medicine and Chairman of the Division of Medicine at Ben Gurion University Faculty of Health Sciences in Beer Sheva, Israel disagrees with you: " And yet, the quality of health ca there is no place in the world you can get better than in America. " http://tinyurl.com/ouozd It's as anecdotal as my statement. |
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