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Bert Robbins August 6th 06 03:31 AM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage
rates while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in
40-ish months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.
How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery
store in the last two years?
On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.
You really are a difficult prick, which provides great insight into
your current situation and condition.
What situation and condition are you referring to?
You know what I am talking about!
No, actually I don't. And, in about 11 minutes, you're about to miss an
opportunity to learn something.

Damn, I missed your teaching session! You are such a good instructor I
most likely would have slept through your class.



Actually, I must admit that you are right. Although the cost of shipping
groceries has increased over 30% during the past 3 years or so, it's had no
effect on the selling price of the product itself. This is because maths
duznt werk.


It could be that the shipping costs are not as high as you think. How
much would it cost for you to ship your juice to NYOB in FL? How much
does the shipping cost increase the cost of the goods in FL?


JoeSpareBedroom August 6th 06 04:28 AM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage
rates while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in
40-ish months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.
How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery
store in the last two years?
On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.
You really are a difficult prick, which provides great insight into
your current situation and condition.
What situation and condition are you referring to?
You know what I am talking about!
No, actually I don't. And, in about 11 minutes, you're about to miss an
opportunity to learn something.
Damn, I missed your teaching session! You are such a good instructor I
most likely would have slept through your class.



Actually, I must admit that you are right. Although the cost of shipping
groceries has increased over 30% during the past 3 years or so, it's had
no effect on the selling price of the product itself. This is because
maths duznt werk.


It could be that the shipping costs are not as high as you think. How much
would it cost for you to ship your juice to NYOB in FL? How much does the
shipping cost increase the cost of the goods in FL?


Sorry, but the semester ended at 4:49 PM today. Grab a shovel. Dig up your
mommy and ask her to remind you how to keep up with your lessons, pendejo.



Bert Robbins August 6th 06 04:30 AM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage
rates while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in
40-ish months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.
How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery
store in the last two years?
On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.
You really are a difficult prick, which provides great insight into
your current situation and condition.
What situation and condition are you referring to?
You know what I am talking about!
No, actually I don't. And, in about 11 minutes, you're about to miss an
opportunity to learn something.
Damn, I missed your teaching session! You are such a good instructor I
most likely would have slept through your class.


Actually, I must admit that you are right. Although the cost of shipping
groceries has increased over 30% during the past 3 years or so, it's had
no effect on the selling price of the product itself. This is because
maths duznt werk.

It could be that the shipping costs are not as high as you think. How much
would it cost for you to ship your juice to NYOB in FL? How much does the
shipping cost increase the cost of the goods in FL?


Sorry, but the semester ended at 4:49 PM today. Grab a shovel. Dig up your
mommy and ask her to remind you how to keep up with your lessons, pendejo.


Your current condition and situation is due to your arrogant and
superior attitude is it now?

JoeSpareBedroom August 6th 06 04:32 AM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It could be that the shipping costs are not as high as you think. How
much would it cost for you to ship your juice to NYOB in FL? How much
does the shipping cost increase the cost of the goods in FL?


Sorry, but the semester ended at 4:49 PM today. Grab a shovel. Dig up
your mommy and ask her to remind you how to keep up with your lessons,
pendejo.


Your current condition and situation is due to your arrogant and superior
attitude is it now?


Until you can describe the aforementioned condition, it doesn't exist,
pendejo.



Bert Robbins August 6th 06 04:40 AM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It could be that the shipping costs are not as high as you think. How
much would it cost for you to ship your juice to NYOB in FL? How much
does the shipping cost increase the cost of the goods in FL?

Sorry, but the semester ended at 4:49 PM today. Grab a shovel. Dig up
your mommy and ask her to remind you how to keep up with your lessons,
pendejo.

Your current condition and situation is due to your arrogant and superior
attitude is it now?


Until you can describe the aforementioned condition, it doesn't exist,
pendejo.


You know what I am talking about!



JoeSpareBedroom August 6th 06 04:41 AM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It could be that the shipping costs are not as high as you think. How
much would it cost for you to ship your juice to NYOB in FL? How much
does the shipping cost increase the cost of the goods in FL?

Sorry, but the semester ended at 4:49 PM today. Grab a shovel. Dig up
your mommy and ask her to remind you how to keep up with your lessons,
pendejo.
Your current condition and situation is due to your arrogant and
superior attitude is it now?


Until you can describe the aforementioned condition, it doesn't exist,
pendejo.


You know what I am talking about!



Pendejo!



Bert Robbins August 6th 06 04:47 AM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It could be that the shipping costs are not as high as you think. How
much would it cost for you to ship your juice to NYOB in FL? How much
does the shipping cost increase the cost of the goods in FL?

Sorry, but the semester ended at 4:49 PM today. Grab a shovel. Dig up
your mommy and ask her to remind you how to keep up with your lessons,
pendejo.
Your current condition and situation is due to your arrogant and
superior attitude is it now?
Until you can describe the aforementioned condition, it doesn't exist,
pendejo.

You know what I am talking about!



Pendejo!


Hit a nerve didn't I?


JoeSpareBedroom August 6th 06 05:00 AM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It could be that the shipping costs are not as high as you think.
How much would it cost for you to ship your juice to NYOB in FL? How
much does the shipping cost increase the cost of the goods in FL?

Sorry, but the semester ended at 4:49 PM today. Grab a shovel. Dig up
your mommy and ask her to remind you how to keep up with your
lessons, pendejo.
Your current condition and situation is due to your arrogant and
superior attitude is it now?
Until you can describe the aforementioned condition, it doesn't exist,
pendejo.
You know what I am talking about!



Pendejo!


Hit a nerve didn't I?


ROFL! WTF are you talking about, Mr. Trailer Park? You still can't seem to
explain the "current condition" you've mentioned so many times.



JohnH August 6th 06 01:08 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:35:57 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:24:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
m...


***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage rates
while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in 40-ish
months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.

How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery store in
the last two years?


On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.


Well, let me put it this way - about 100%.

I'll let you know when we buy our annual "basket". That is to say, we
buy the same thing, in one basket, every year just to see how much
more we pay year-to-year. We do it every year the weekend after Labor
Day.

Last year it was just shy of 80%.


Tom, were 80% of the items priced higher, or was the total price 80%
higher?

If the latter, you've gotta quit buying tomatoes at Safeway!
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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John

Jack Goff August 6th 06 01:08 PM

Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
 
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:36:41 -0400, " JimH"
jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote:


"Jack Goff" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 09:17:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
om...

"Jack Goff" wrote in message
...

Myself, I like 'em all, pretty much. Old Mopar, Ford and even GM
products. I draw the line at Chevelles, though. Fat-fendered, ugly,
and everybody and his brother who doesn't have a Mustang has, or lusts
after, a Chevelle. Yech.



http://www.seriouswheels.com/classif...5000_220_1.jpg

Drool ;-)


I've never understood the fascination with '70s vintage Chevelles. To me,
they are not in any way a "classic", they handle terribly and they're a
dime
a dozen.

Eisboch


Isn't that the truth. 64-68 Chevelles have a nice look. 69 and up...
not for me. I think my favorite is a 66.


Wasn't the '68 the first year they started to raise and arch the rear
quarter panels, keeping that look into the 70's?


Yep, 68 was the first year of the new body style. But the sides of
the body are still smooth, without the fat-fenders. 70 is the year
they added the flares over the wheelwells and totally changed the
front end, IMO ruining the car's lines.

Different strokes.

JoeSpareBedroom August 6th 06 01:10 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:24:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
m...


***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage rates
while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in 40-ish
months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.

How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery store
in
the last two years?


On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.


Well, let me put it this way - about 100%.

I'll let you know when we buy our annual "basket". That is to say, we
buy the same thing, in one basket, every year just to see how much
more we pay year-to-year. We do it every year the weekend after Labor
Day.

Last year it was just shy of 80%.


Tom, this is impossible. Please listen to Bert.



Bert Robbins August 6th 06 01:33 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It could be that the shipping costs are not as high as you think.
How much would it cost for you to ship your juice to NYOB in FL? How
much does the shipping cost increase the cost of the goods in FL?

Sorry, but the semester ended at 4:49 PM today. Grab a shovel. Dig up
your mommy and ask her to remind you how to keep up with your
lessons, pendejo.
Your current condition and situation is due to your arrogant and
superior attitude is it now?
Until you can describe the aforementioned condition, it doesn't exist,
pendejo.
You know what I am talking about!


Pendejo!

Hit a nerve didn't I?


ROFL! WTF are you talking about, Mr. Trailer Park? You still can't seem to
explain the "current condition" you've mentioned so many times.


It is current condition and situation.

Why are you resorting to name calling and attempted put downs?


JoeSpareBedroom August 6th 06 01:49 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It could be that the shipping costs are not as high as you think.
How much would it cost for you to ship your juice to NYOB in FL?
How much does the shipping cost increase the cost of the goods in
FL?

Sorry, but the semester ended at 4:49 PM today. Grab a shovel. Dig
up your mommy and ask her to remind you how to keep up with your
lessons, pendejo.
Your current condition and situation is due to your arrogant and
superior attitude is it now?
Until you can describe the aforementioned condition, it doesn't
exist, pendejo.
You know what I am talking about!


Pendejo!
Hit a nerve didn't I?


ROFL! WTF are you talking about, Mr. Trailer Park? You still can't seem
to explain the "current condition" you've mentioned so many times.


It is current condition and situation.

Why are you resorting to name calling and attempted put downs?


I'm honoring your explicit request for such treatment. Don't focus on the
words. Focus on the meaning.



Bert Robbins August 6th 06 01:52 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It could be that the shipping costs are not as high as you think.
How much would it cost for you to ship your juice to NYOB in FL?
How much does the shipping cost increase the cost of the goods in
FL?

Sorry, but the semester ended at 4:49 PM today. Grab a shovel. Dig
up your mommy and ask her to remind you how to keep up with your
lessons, pendejo.
Your current condition and situation is due to your arrogant and
superior attitude is it now?
Until you can describe the aforementioned condition, it doesn't
exist, pendejo.
You know what I am talking about!


Pendejo!
Hit a nerve didn't I?

ROFL! WTF are you talking about, Mr. Trailer Park? You still can't seem
to explain the "current condition" you've mentioned so many times.

It is current condition and situation.

Why are you resorting to name calling and attempted put downs?


I'm honoring your explicit request for such treatment. Don't focus on the
words. Focus on the meaning.


This is my last post on this thread until this evening. If you are still
around then let me know maybe you can teach me something.

JoeSpareBedroom August 6th 06 02:03 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It could be that the shipping costs are not as high as you
think. How much would it cost for you to ship your juice to NYOB
in FL? How much does the shipping cost increase the cost of the
goods in FL?

Sorry, but the semester ended at 4:49 PM today. Grab a shovel.
Dig up your mommy and ask her to remind you how to keep up with
your lessons, pendejo.
Your current condition and situation is due to your arrogant and
superior attitude is it now?
Until you can describe the aforementioned condition, it doesn't
exist, pendejo.
You know what I am talking about!


Pendejo!
Hit a nerve didn't I?

ROFL! WTF are you talking about, Mr. Trailer Park? You still can't
seem to explain the "current condition" you've mentioned so many times.
It is current condition and situation.

Why are you resorting to name calling and attempted put downs?


I'm honoring your explicit request for such treatment. Don't focus on the
words. Focus on the meaning.


This is my last post on this thread until this evening. If you are still
around then let me know maybe you can teach me something.


Lesson: Stop playing games unless you're equipped to do so successfully.



Don White August 6th 06 04:56 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It could be that the shipping costs are not as high as you think.
How much would it cost for you to ship your juice to NYOB in FL?
How much does the shipping cost increase the cost of the goods in FL?

Sorry, but the semester ended at 4:49 PM today. Grab a shovel. Dig
up your mommy and ask her to remind you how to keep up with your
lessons, pendejo.

Your current condition and situation is due to your arrogant and
superior attitude is it now?

Until you can describe the aforementioned condition, it doesn't
exist, pendejo.



You know what I am talking about!



Was your marine nickname Pillsbury? You certainly seem to be the new
newsgroup "D'oh" boy.


Hee hee! That Bert...he just keeps on givin'.

JimH August 6th 06 09:16 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:08:44 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:35:57 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:24:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
news:WoKdnY_0Ts9ceU7ZnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@comcast. com...


***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage rates
while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in 40-ish
months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.

How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery store
in
the last two years?

On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.

Well, let me put it this way - about 100%.

I'll let you know when we buy our annual "basket". That is to say, we
buy the same thing, in one basket, every year just to see how much
more we pay year-to-year. We do it every year the weekend after Labor
Day.

Last year it was just shy of 80%.


Tom, were 80% of the items priced higher, or was the total price 80%
higher?

If the latter, you've gotta quit buying tomatoes at Safeway!


Total price.

And we don't buy anything at Safeway. :)


When purchasing produce you are *always* better off shopping at locally
owned grocery stores or farmers stands and staying away from the large
regional chains.

We buy our produce at our local Heinen's store (16 stores total, all in the
general area and locally owed) or the local farmers stands when in season.
Heinen's purchases produce daily from the downtown food terminal and it is
therefore much fresher than with the large chains who buy it, warehouse it
at their main distribution points (sometimes several States away), then
eventually ship it to their stores.



JimH August 6th 06 10:25 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:08:44 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:35:57 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:24:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
news:WoKdnY_0Ts9ceU7ZnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@comcast .com...


***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage rates
while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in 40-ish
months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.

How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery
store in
the last two years?

On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.

Well, let me put it this way - about 100%.

I'll let you know when we buy our annual "basket". That is to say, we
buy the same thing, in one basket, every year just to see how much
more we pay year-to-year. We do it every year the weekend after Labor
Day.

Last year it was just shy of 80%.

Tom, were 80% of the items priced higher, or was the total price 80%
higher?

If the latter, you've gotta quit buying tomatoes at Safeway!


Total price.

And we don't buy anything at Safeway. :)


When purchasing produce you are *always* better off shopping at locally
owned grocery stores or farmers stands and staying away from the large
regional chains.

We buy our produce at our local Heinen's store (16 stores total, all in
the general area and locally owned) or the local farmers stands when in
season. Heinen's purchases produce daily from the downtown food terminal
and distributes it that day to their stores. It is therefore much fresher
than with the large chains who buy it, warehouse it at their main
distribution points and eventually ship it to their stores often several
States away.


edit



JohnH August 6th 06 11:03 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:28:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:08:44 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:35:57 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:24:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
news:WoKdnY_0Ts9ceU7ZnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@comcast. com...


***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage rates
while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in 40-ish
months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.

How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery store in
the last two years?

On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.

Well, let me put it this way - about 100%.

I'll let you know when we buy our annual "basket". That is to say, we
buy the same thing, in one basket, every year just to see how much
more we pay year-to-year. We do it every year the weekend after Labor
Day.

Last year it was just shy of 80%.


Tom, were 80% of the items priced higher, or was the total price 80%
higher?

If the latter, you've gotta quit buying tomatoes at Safeway!


Total price.

And we don't buy anything at Safeway. :)


Boycotting Safeway is a good thing! :)
--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John

JohnH August 6th 06 11:04 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 16:16:21 -0400, " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com
wrote:


We buy our produce at our local Heinen's store (16 stores total, all in the
general area and locally owed) or the local farmers stands when in season.
Heinen's purchases produce daily from the downtown food terminal and it is
therefore much fresher than with the large chains who buy it, warehouse it
at their main distribution points (sometimes several States away), then
eventually ship it to their stores.


Too far to drive.
--
******************************************
***** Have a Gay Day! *****
******************************************

John

JimH August 6th 06 11:11 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 16:16:21 -0400, " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com
wrote:

We buy our produce at our local Heinen's store (16 stores total, all in
the general area and locally owned) or the local farmers stands when in
season. Heinen's purchases produce daily from the downtown food terminal
and distributes it that day to their stores. It is therefore much fresher
than with the large chains who buy it, warehouse it at their main
distribution points and eventually ship it to their stores often several
States away.




Too far to drive.
--
******************************************
***** Have a Gay Day! *****
******************************************

John



We all have our priorities. ;-)



Eisboch August 7th 06 12:03 AM

Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

Kind of a strange deal too. When I came back from my second tour, I
had ordered a Road Runner, but it never made it to San Francisco. The
dealer that was supposed to deliver the car really felt bad about the
whole thing and went out of his way to find another car for me - that
was the 440 GTX.



Today, officially, the GLee's new 440 was broken in. It has a mild MoPar
performance cam plus Edelbrock carb and intake. I've been easy on it since
the installation, doing the break-in routine religiously, but today I got
the requisite 300 miles on it and it was time to hammer it.

As Frank Barone used to say, "Holy Crap". There's definitely no
replacement for displacement.

Now I have to order new tires for the rear.

Eisboch



Bert Robbins August 7th 06 02:00 AM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:28:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:08:44 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:35:57 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:24:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage rates
while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in 40-ish
months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.
How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery store in
the last two years?
On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.
Well, let me put it this way - about 100%.

I'll let you know when we buy our annual "basket". That is to say, we
buy the same thing, in one basket, every year just to see how much
more we pay year-to-year. We do it every year the weekend after Labor
Day.

Last year it was just shy of 80%.
Tom, were 80% of the items priced higher, or was the total price 80%
higher?

If the latter, you've gotta quit buying tomatoes at Safeway!

Total price.

And we don't buy anything at Safeway. :)


Boycotting Safeway is a good thing! :)


Tell me you don't shop at Giant?

Jack Goff August 7th 06 02:17 AM

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On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:32:01 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 12:08:58 GMT, Jack Goff wrote:

On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 17:36:41 -0400, " JimH"
jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote:


"Jack Goff" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 09:17:46 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
news:A9Cdnc3CgJidCE7ZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast .com...

"Jack Goff" wrote in message
...

Myself, I like 'em all, pretty much. Old Mopar, Ford and even GM
products. I draw the line at Chevelles, though. Fat-fendered, ugly,
and everybody and his brother who doesn't have a Mustang has, or lusts
after, a Chevelle. Yech.



http://www.seriouswheels.com/classif...5000_220_1.jpg

Drool ;-)


I've never understood the fascination with '70s vintage Chevelles. To me,
they are not in any way a "classic", they handle terribly and they're a
dime
a dozen.

Eisboch


Isn't that the truth. 64-68 Chevelles have a nice look. 69 and up...
not for me. I think my favorite is a 66.


Wasn't the '68 the first year they started to raise and arch the rear
quarter panels, keeping that look into the 70's?


Yep, 68 was the first year of the new body style. But the sides of
the body are still smooth, without the fat-fenders. 70 is the year
they added the flares over the wheelwells and totally changed the
front end, IMO ruining the car's lines.

Different strokes.


The black folk down south love those post 70's GM products. They make
them into something called Hoop-Ds or something like that.

Quite the sight those are, I'll tell you what.


Are you talking about "stagecoach"? When they jack up a car, then put
huge wheels and tires on it (mostly diameter, some width). It sits up
high, and they can't turn the steering wheel very much, or the tires
scrub the frame.

The law has pretty much put an end to that quickly, as it violated
several safety rules. I rarely see one around here anymore. 80's
model Caprices and Monte Carlos were a favorite.

I saw a late 60's Malibu/Chevelle convertible done that way. Hand me
the barf bag. Damn shame.

[email protected] August 7th 06 02:47 AM

Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
 

Jack Goff wrote:


Are you talking about "stagecoach"? When they jack up a car, then put
huge wheels and tires on it (mostly diameter, some width). It sits up
high, and they can't turn the steering wheel very much, or the tires
scrub the frame.

The law has pretty much put an end to that quickly, as it violated
several safety rules. I rarely see one around here anymore. 80's
model Caprices and Monte Carlos were a favorite.

I saw a late 60's Malibu/Chevelle convertible done that way. Hand me
the barf bag. Damn shame.


When I was in highschool in the early 70's everybody and their dog that
had some sort of a car had to jack the think up beyond reason. Jeff
haines had a 57 4 door Ford Fairlane with shackles on the back that
were so high and unstable, they buckled in a turn and wiped out the
car.

if you had a stick shift (even 3 on the tree) you had a racer, if it
was an automatic it was "junk".

First thing that would happen when a kid got a car, was off came the
stock manifolds and on went the headers and cherry bombs, or Thrushs.
Wind it up, let off the throttle and listen to all the popping and
backfiring. Nobody told them that you had to re-jet carburation .

Next, you put on your v-8 mickey thompson chrome valve covers . for
some unknown reason that made the car go faster.

woooooooo!

And if you had REAL money, you installed and Aluminum intake, and they
didn't know that the intake, headers, and faulty carburation actually
hut their performance. Even less than stock, but it sure sounded
"cool".

My 3.0 suffers performance, maybe I ought to dig out a JC Whitney
catalogue and see if I can still order a 3/4 or "full race" cam.

That will teach the Baha crowd to stay home!


P. Fritz August 7th 06 02:57 AM

Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
 

wrote in message
oups.com...

Jack Goff wrote:


Are you talking about "stagecoach"? When they jack up a car, then put
huge wheels and tires on it (mostly diameter, some width). It sits up
high, and they can't turn the steering wheel very much, or the tires
scrub the frame.

The law has pretty much put an end to that quickly, as it violated
several safety rules. I rarely see one around here anymore. 80's
model Caprices and Monte Carlos were a favorite.

I saw a late 60's Malibu/Chevelle convertible done that way. Hand me
the barf bag. Damn shame.


When I was in highschool in the early 70's everybody and their dog that
had some sort of a car had to jack the think up beyond reason. Jeff
haines had a 57 4 door Ford Fairlane with shackles on the back that
were so high and unstable, they buckled in a turn and wiped out the
car.

if you had a stick shift (even 3 on the tree) you had a racer, if it
was an automatic it was "junk".

First thing that would happen when a kid got a car, was off came the
stock manifolds and on went the headers and cherry bombs, or Thrushs.
Wind it up, let off the throttle and listen to all the popping and
backfiring. Nobody told them that you had to re-jet carburation .

Next, you put on your v-8 mickey thompson chrome valve covers . for
some unknown reason that made the car go faster.

woooooooo!

And if you had REAL money, you installed and Aluminum intake, and they
didn't know that the intake, headers, and faulty carburation actually
hut their performance. Even less than stock, but it sure sounded
"cool".

My 3.0 suffers performance, maybe I ought to dig out a JC Whitney
catalogue and see if I can still order a 3/4 or "full race" cam.

That will teach the Baha crowd to stay home!


I worked one summer in Atlanta in the mid 70's packing UPS shipments in a
warehouse that sold all that crap.....Hush Thrush mufflers, Eddlebrock (sp?)
headers, Hurst shifters, I think it was Crain cams.....and then there was
the chrome everything, valve covers, air filter covers, oil pan,
alternators, .....never understood the chrome chain steering wheels.........





[email protected] August 7th 06 03:05 AM

Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
 
The little chrome chain steering wheels usually went to the Custom
built hot rod "T-bucket" crowd, or the jumpin bean mobiles.

Oh yeah, another performance tip ! another thing to go was you had to
take off your power steering built.

a) it reduced unecessary drag on the engine, helping to release that
extra opressed horsepower.

b) it also improved your driving experience, because "you can feel the
road better"

gimme a break!



P. Fritz wrote:
I worked one summer in Atlanta in the mid 70's packing UPS shipments in a
warehouse that sold all that crap.....Hush Thrush mufflers, Eddlebrock (sp?)
headers, Hurst shifters, I think it was Crain cams.....and then there was
the chrome everything, valve covers, air filter covers, oil pan,
alternators, .....never understood the chrome chain steering wheels.........




Calif Bill August 7th 06 05:39 AM

Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
The little chrome chain steering wheels usually went to the Custom
built hot rod "T-bucket" crowd, or the jumpin bean mobiles.

Oh yeah, another performance tip ! another thing to go was you had to
take off your power steering built.

a) it reduced unecessary drag on the engine, helping to release that
extra opressed horsepower.

b) it also improved your driving experience, because "you can feel the
road better"

gimme a break!



P. Fritz wrote:
I worked one summer in Atlanta in the mid 70's packing UPS shipments in a
warehouse that sold all that crap.....Hush Thrush mufflers, Eddlebrock
(sp?)
headers, Hurst shifters, I think it was Crain cams.....and then there was
the chrome everything, valve covers, air filter covers, oil pan,
alternators, .....never understood the chrome chain steering
wheels.........




If it don't go, go chrome.



Calif Bill August 7th 06 05:44 AM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

" JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com wrote in message
. ..

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:08:44 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:35:57 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:24:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
news:WoKdnY_0Ts9ceU7ZnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@comcast .com...


***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage rates
while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in 40-ish
months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.

How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery
store in
the last two years?

On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.

Well, let me put it this way - about 100%.

I'll let you know when we buy our annual "basket". That is to say, we
buy the same thing, in one basket, every year just to see how much
more we pay year-to-year. We do it every year the weekend after Labor
Day.

Last year it was just shy of 80%.

Tom, were 80% of the items priced higher, or was the total price 80%
higher?

If the latter, you've gotta quit buying tomatoes at Safeway!


Total price.

And we don't buy anything at Safeway. :)


When purchasing produce you are *always* better off shopping at locally
owned grocery stores or farmers stands and staying away from the large
regional chains.

We buy our produce at our local Heinen's store (16 stores total, all in
the general area and locally owed) or the local farmers stands when in
season. Heinen's purchases produce daily from the downtown food terminal
and it is therefore much fresher than with the large chains who buy it,
warehouse it at their main distribution points (sometimes several States
away), then eventually ship it to their stores.


Our Safeway's have great produce. But their national headquarters are
located about 4 miles from my home.



JohnH August 7th 06 11:52 AM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:00:21 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:28:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:08:44 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:35:57 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:24:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage rates
while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in 40-ish
months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.
How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery store in
the last two years?
On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.
Well, let me put it this way - about 100%.

I'll let you know when we buy our annual "basket". That is to say, we
buy the same thing, in one basket, every year just to see how much
more we pay year-to-year. We do it every year the weekend after Labor
Day.

Last year it was just shy of 80%.
Tom, were 80% of the items priced higher, or was the total price 80%
higher?

If the latter, you've gotta quit buying tomatoes at Safeway!
Total price.

And we don't buy anything at Safeway. :)


Boycotting Safeway is a good thing! :)


Tell me you don't shop at Giant?


Tomatoes at Giant are a dollar a pound cheaper than at Safeway!

--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John

JoeSpareBedroom August 7th 06 12:08 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 16:16:21 -0400, " JimH" not telling you @
pffftt.com
wrote:


We buy our produce at our local Heinen's store (16 stores total, all in
the
general area and locally owed) or the local farmers stands when in
season.
Heinen's purchases produce daily from the downtown food terminal and it
is
therefore much fresher than with the large chains who buy it, warehouse
it
at their main distribution points (sometimes several States away), then
eventually ship it to their stores.

Too far to drive.
--
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***** Have a Gay Day! *****
******************************************

John


Do you have a Wegman's store nearby?
www.wegmans.com

At least here, in their hometown, they offer quite a bit of produce
that's locally grown. Might be the same in the newer territories they've
conquered.


We have a year-around indoor farmer's market on Saturdays near us, plus in
season dozens of small farmers who sell their own local produce. The
nearest Wegman's is too far away for any sort of shopping. Of the
supermarket chains in our 'hood, Safeway is far better than Giant, except
for bread and bakery items. But a Panera Bread is opening soon, and that
will take care of the decent bread and bagel challenge.


I was asking John. Are you close enough to him that the question applies?



JohnH August 7th 06 12:11 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 10:57:13 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 6 Aug 2006 16:16:21 -0400, " JimH" not telling you @ pffftt.com
wrote:


We buy our produce at our local Heinen's store (16 stores total, all in
the
general area and locally owed) or the local farmers stands when in season.
Heinen's purchases produce daily from the downtown food terminal and it is
therefore much fresher than with the large chains who buy it, warehouse it
at their main distribution points (sometimes several States away), then
eventually ship it to their stores.


Too far to drive.
--
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***** Have a Gay Day! *****
******************************************

John


Do you have a Wegman's store nearby?
www.wegmans.com

At least here, in their hometown, they offer quite a bit of produce that's
locally grown. Might be the same in the newer territories they've conquered.


Not nearby, but they are a nice store. We have a Trader Joe's and a Whole
Foods fairly close. Both are nice, but the Whole Foods is pricey. Most of
the heavy duty grocery shopping is done at the commissary on Fort Belvoir.
--
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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John

basskisser August 7th 06 01:04 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Do you have a Wegman's store nearby?
www.wegmans.com

At least here, in their hometown, they offer quite a bit of produce that's
locally grown. Might be the same in the newer territories they've conquered.


and they have Zweigles white hots!!! MMmmm!


JoeSpareBedroom August 7th 06 01:06 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Do you have a Wegman's store nearby?
www.wegmans.com

At least here, in their hometown, they offer quite a bit of produce
that's
locally grown. Might be the same in the newer territories they've
conquered.


and they have Zweigles white hots!!! MMmmm!


You're kidding! Those things are made from cattle vomit, turned into a
meat-like substance using gelatin.



basskisser August 7th 06 02:28 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Do you have a Wegman's store nearby?
www.wegmans.com

At least here, in their hometown, they offer quite a bit of produce
that's
locally grown. Might be the same in the newer territories they've
conquered.


and they have Zweigles white hots!!! MMmmm!


You're kidding! Those things are made from cattle vomit, turned into a
meat-like substance using gelatin.


Mmmm, exactly!!!!


Calif Bill August 7th 06 08:34 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:00:21 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:28:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:08:44 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:35:57 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:24:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage
rates
while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in 40-ish
months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.
How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery
store in
the last two years?
On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.
Well, let me put it this way - about 100%.

I'll let you know when we buy our annual "basket". That is to say,
we
buy the same thing, in one basket, every year just to see how much
more we pay year-to-year. We do it every year the weekend after
Labor
Day.

Last year it was just shy of 80%.
Tom, were 80% of the items priced higher, or was the total price 80%
higher?

If the latter, you've gotta quit buying tomatoes at Safeway!
Total price.

And we don't buy anything at Safeway. :)

Boycotting Safeway is a good thing! :)


Tell me you don't shop at Giant?


Tomatoes at Giant are a dollar a pound cheaper than at Safeway!

--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John


I paid $0.59 / lb yesterday at the local produce market for tomatoes.
Cluster tomatoes on the vine were only $1.19 lb. You getting ripped. Only
2 ripe tomatoes from my yard plants.



JohnH August 7th 06 08:42 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 19:34:52 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:00:21 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:28:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:08:44 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:35:57 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:24:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage
rates
while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in 40-ish
months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.
How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery
store in
the last two years?
On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.
Well, let me put it this way - about 100%.

I'll let you know when we buy our annual "basket". That is to say,
we
buy the same thing, in one basket, every year just to see how much
more we pay year-to-year. We do it every year the weekend after
Labor
Day.

Last year it was just shy of 80%.
Tom, were 80% of the items priced higher, or was the total price 80%
higher?

If the latter, you've gotta quit buying tomatoes at Safeway!
Total price.

And we don't buy anything at Safeway. :)

Boycotting Safeway is a good thing! :)

Tell me you don't shop at Giant?


Tomatoes at Giant are a dollar a pound cheaper than at Safeway!

--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John


I paid $0.59 / lb yesterday at the local produce market for tomatoes.
Cluster tomatoes on the vine were only $1.19 lb. You getting ripped. Only
2 ripe tomatoes from my yard plants.


I had five green tomatoes on my plants. But then one day they got all
wrinkled, like they turned 85 years old. Strange as hell.

I've got a neighbor down the street with a good sunny area. She keeps me in
good supply of green tomatoes. Plus, my wife has a guy at the farmer's
market in Alexandria bring in half a dozen big green ones every Saturday.

Safeway is a rip off. We need to boycott them!
--
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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John

[email protected] August 8th 06 12:36 AM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
LOFL!


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:06:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
roups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Do you have a Wegman's store nearby?
www.wegmans.com

At least here, in their hometown, they offer quite a bit of produce
that's
locally grown. Might be the same in the newer territories they've
conquered.

and they have Zweigles white hots!!! MMmmm!


You're kidding! Those things are made from cattle vomit, turned into a
meat-like substance using gelatin.


mmmmmmmmhighgradecattlevomitwithgelatinmmmmmmmmmmm



JoeSpareBedroom August 8th 06 02:16 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:06:24 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"basskisser" wrote in message
groups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Do you have a Wegman's store nearby?
www.wegmans.com

At least here, in their hometown, they offer quite a bit of produce
that's
locally grown. Might be the same in the newer territories they've
conquered.

and they have Zweigles white hots!!! MMmmm!


You're kidding! Those things are made from cattle vomit, turned into a
meat-like substance using gelatin.


mmmmmmmmhighgradecattlevomitwithgelatinmmmmmmmmmmm


It's a big seller here in the company's hometown. I suspect the customer
base is largely comprised of the same type who says "Buy American cars ugh
ugh me go kill mastodon".



NOYB August 9th 06 07:10 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:00:21 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 13:28:02 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:08:44 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 11:35:57 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 15:24:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

***ME*** shift the conversation? You're talking about mortgage
rates
while I'm telling that freight rates have increased 30% in 40-ish
months*, and you're making like it's a non-event.

*A number of months which is not a coincidence, by the way.
How much has the cost of groceries gone up at your local grocery
store in
the last two years?
On which products in particular? An average would be meaningless.
Well, let me put it this way - about 100%.

I'll let you know when we buy our annual "basket". That is to say,
we
buy the same thing, in one basket, every year just to see how much
more we pay year-to-year. We do it every year the weekend after
Labor
Day.

Last year it was just shy of 80%.
Tom, were 80% of the items priced higher, or was the total price 80%
higher?

If the latter, you've gotta quit buying tomatoes at Safeway!
Total price.

And we don't buy anything at Safeway. :)

Boycotting Safeway is a good thing! :)

Tell me you don't shop at Giant?


Tomatoes at Giant are a dollar a pound cheaper than at Safeway!

--
******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

John


I paid $0.59 / lb yesterday at the local produce market for tomatoes.
Cluster tomatoes on the vine were only $1.19 lb. You getting ripped.
Only 2 ripe tomatoes from my yard plants.


California has a lot more tomato-pickers (a.k.a. illegals).





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