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SamJenson wrote:
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Really? I know damned well how my brakes on my vehicles are configured.

Me too, backwards.

Uh, no.....


Care to wager?
How about $500.00? The loser will donate the money to Racing For The Cure in
care of JohnH.

The bet is very simple.-

I say on your 1995 Jeep Cherokee that the shorter rear brake shoe is the
primary and is located towards the front of the vehicle, and the longer
secondary shoe is located towards the rear of the vehicle.

You say the shorter primary brake shoe is located towards the rear of the
vehicle and the secondary longer brake shoe is located towards the front of
the vehicle.

The service manual for this vehicle will be the source that determines the
correct configuration.

Put your money where your mouth is.

Sam

On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:36:00 GMT, "SamJenson" wrote:


"basskisser" wrote in message
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SamJenson wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Really? I know damned well how my brakes on my vehicles are configured.

Me too, backwards.

Uh, no.....


Care to wager?
How about $500.00? The loser will donate the money to Racing For The Cure in
care of JohnH.

The bet is very simple.-

I say on your 1995 Jeep Cherokee that the shorter rear brake shoe is the
primary and is located towards the front of the vehicle, and the longer
secondary shoe is located towards the rear of the vehicle.

You say the shorter primary brake shoe is located towards the rear of the
vehicle and the secondary longer brake shoe is located towards the front of
the vehicle.

The service manual for this vehicle will be the source that determines the
correct configuration.

Put your money where your mouth is.

Sam


If the loser loses, and has to donate the money, I'll (that's a contraction
for 'I will', i.e., future tense) match it!

Hell, maybe the Racing for Renee Team can become the number one fundraising
team!
--
'Til next time,

John H

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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:36:00 GMT, "SamJenson" wrote:


"basskisser" wrote in message
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SamJenson wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Really? I know damned well how my brakes on my vehicles are
configured.

Me too, backwards.

Uh, no.....


Care to wager?
How about $500.00? The loser will donate the money to Racing For The Cure
in
care of JohnH.

The bet is very simple.-

I say on your 1995 Jeep Cherokee that the shorter rear brake shoe is the
primary and is located towards the front of the vehicle, and the longer
secondary shoe is located towards the rear of the vehicle.

You say the shorter primary brake shoe is located towards the rear of the
vehicle and the secondary longer brake shoe is located towards the front
of
the vehicle.

The service manual for this vehicle will be the source that determines the
correct configuration.

Put your money where your mouth is.

Sam


If the loser loses, and has to donate the money, I'll (that's a
contraction
for 'I will', i.e., future tense) match it!

Hell, maybe the Racing for Renee Team can become the number one
fundraising
team!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Enough already John. Start a donation NG if you want as I (as I am sure
many others) am getting tired of your constant plea for donations. This is
not the place for it.....folks don't come here to be bugged constantly for
donations.

Please drop it already.

"JohnH" wrote in message
...


If the loser loses, and has to donate the money, I'll (that's a
contraction
for 'I will', i.e., future tense) match it!

Hell, maybe the Racing for Renee Team can become the number one
fundraising
team!

That would be great John but this is where basskisser tries to wiggle out,
or ignores the thread completely.

SamJenson wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...


If the loser loses, and has to donate the money, I'll (that's a
contraction
for 'I will', i.e., future tense) match it!

Hell, maybe the Racing for Renee Team can become the number one
fundraising
team!

That would be great John but this is where basskisser tries to wiggle out,
or ignores the thread completely.

What in the hell are you talking about dummy?

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

SamJenson wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...


If the loser loses, and has to donate the money, I'll (that's a
contraction
for 'I will', i.e., future tense) match it!

Hell, maybe the Racing for Renee Team can become the number one
fundraising
team!

That would be great John but this is where basskisser tries to wiggle
out,
or ignores the thread completely.

What in the hell are you talking about dummy?


Petty and childish name calling does nothing for your credibility

SamJenson wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

SamJenson wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...


If the loser loses, and has to donate the money, I'll (that's a
contraction
for 'I will', i.e., future tense) match it!

Hell, maybe the Racing for Renee Team can become the number one
fundraising
team!

That would be great John but this is where basskisser tries to wiggle
out,
or ignores the thread completely.

What in the hell are you talking about dummy?


Petty and childish name calling does nothing for your credibility

Simply calling a spade a spade.

SamJenson wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

SamJenson wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message
...


If the loser loses, and has to donate the money, I'll (that's a
contraction
for 'I will', i.e., future tense) match it!

Hell, maybe the Racing for Renee Team can become the number one
fundraising
team!

That would be great John but this is where basskisser tries to wiggle
out,
or ignores the thread completely.

What in the hell are you talking about dummy?


Petty and childish name calling does nothing for your credibility

Remember what one of the experts that you were trying to dig up told
you? Here it is:

This is a rule of thumb with Cherokees, there are exceptions with some
vehicles.

"basskisser" wrote in message
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Remember what one of the experts that you were trying to dig up told
you? Here it is:

This is a rule of thumb with Cherokees, there are exceptions with some
vehicles.

And you call me a dummy? Why didn't you post the "experts" complete post?
Here's the full text-

"I did brakes and such for a long time professionally. I looked it up in my
Wagner book to confirm, just incase I'm getting foggy.1995 Jeep Cherokee
rear brake shoes, short shoe to the front, long shoe in the rear.This is a
rule of thumb with Cherokees, there are exceptions with some vehicles.Your
best bet is to do your vehicle correctly, and let the idiot foul his up.Keep
your rear brakes properly adjusted."

Lets look at some of the other responses from the experts-

"You are correct. The longer secondary shoe holds the parking brake
hardware."

"There is a clear diagram in the Haynes Manual that labels the shoes and
shows the shorter lining on the front or primary shoe.
I could take a digital photo of the page and email it to you if you would
like."

"The Haynes manual is a half decent book to have around, if only for things
like that and the torque specs. It is in the twenty dollar
range. Most auto parts stores sell them. If you had the book which shows
photos of the shoes as well as the diagram, that would fix his wagon.
Meanwhile I was bored so I got a couple blurry shots from the book and
posted them on alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4. They are soo blurry there is
no way you could be accused of photoshopping them. LOL!"

"Short shoe to the front."

"If you think about this for a long time, you might convince yourself that
there is a reason for it. I tried, but I just didn't get it. I did notice
that when people put them on backwards, the short shoe wears out way too
fast."

Have any proof that you're right and *everyone* else is wrong?

SamJenson wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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SamJenson wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
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Really? I know damned well how my brakes on my vehicles are configured.

Me too, backwards.

Uh, no.....


Care to wager?
How about $500.00? The loser will donate the money to Racing For The Cure in
care of JohnH.

The bet is very simple.-

I say on your 1995 Jeep Cherokee that the shorter rear brake shoe is the
primary and is located towards the front of the vehicle, and the longer
secondary shoe is located towards the rear of the vehicle.

You say the shorter primary brake shoe is located towards the rear of the
vehicle and the secondary longer brake shoe is located towards the front of
the vehicle.

The service manual for this vehicle will be the source that determines the
correct configuration.

Put your money where your mouth is.

Sam

I have changed the rear brakes on my Jeep three (3) times. I bought it
with 57 miles on it. I know how they were and still are. Next time I'll
take a picture to prove to you. I am not talking about anybody else's
vehicle, I'm talking about mine. Care to wager?