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JohnH April 24th 06 06:40 PM

More gas on gas
 
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:51:05 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .

Doug,
I'm back from the airport, the kids are tucked in and sleeping like logs,
and I'm confused. When did he become MY president? Is what we have here,
a
failure to communicate?


That's been Doug's banner for years. He uses it to sucker folks into
political flaming wars along with Harry. Most of us are learning better.
John H



John, do you have a refrigerator in your kitchen? Is it yours, or mine?


Doug, this is just for you. I will break my fast (of political discussion)
this one time:

Okay, here's the plan:

Back off and let those men who want to marry men, marry men.

Allow those women who want t o marry women, marry women.

Allow those folks who want to abort their babies, abort their babies.

In three generations, there will be NO Democrats!!!

Damn, I love it when a plan comes together!

Now, go over here and make a donation to something worthwhile!

http://www.active.com/donate/varace4cure/JohnHerring

--
'Til next time,

John H

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RCE April 24th 06 06:57 PM

Peak Oil - counterargument
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"RG" wrote in message
m...
Get it still, you don't. Trying to accomplish this change through
governmental taxation will only result in animosity and non-compliance.
Not to mention the fact that you'd never get Congress to agree on an
approach. Accomplishing it through a high cost of ownership due to high
fuel bills and wicked depreciation will happen with Congress doing what
it does best...nothing. The market always works...eventually. Trust
the force, Luke.



What do you do about the terminally stupid who can't understand cause
and effect?


Well eventually, the terminally part of your description will become
operative. In the meantime, let them pay through the nose. But when it
costs $200 to fill up the tank of their truck, do you really think even
the dimmest bulb won't get a clue? That level of witlessness is not
typically found in the company of unlimited financial resources.



Meanwhile, they're part of a problem that this country MUST deal with.
That's why I see nothing wrong with gently leading them by the nose.


Gently leading too many people by the nose will only get you a handful of
snot.

RCE



RG April 24th 06 07:02 PM

Peak Oil - counterargument
 
Gently leading too many people by the nose will only get you a handful of
snot.


At this point, one can only wonder what the BTU rating of refined snot might
be. Is it possible we could sneeze our way to energy independence?



RCE April 24th 06 07:06 PM

Peak Oil - counterargument
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"RCE" wrote in message
...
Y'all ain't gittin my truck, even if'in i hafta learn how to load the
bullits in my shotgun and carry it ona rack in the rear window!

RCE



That is, of course, unless you make me an offer I can't refuse.

RCE


I made you a sincere offer. Cash.


You forgot to read the "can't refuse" part.

Besides, what's a guy like you, at your age, going to do with a big, black
Harley-Davidson edition F-350 Powerstroke diesel?

Come to think of it ...... what the heck is a guy like me, at my age, going
to do with a big, black Harley-Davidson edition F-350 Powerstroke diesel?

RCE

RCE



RCE April 24th 06 07:13 PM

Peak Oil - counterargument
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Black Dog" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:

Yes, common sense. If hybrids and being politically correct floats your
boat, do so without preaching.
If an Escalade floats your boat, do so, responsibly. The same applies
for everything in between.

RCE


Yes exactly. Funny you should use the phrase "float your boat". My boat
wouldn't get very far from driveway without the help of our Ford
Explorer. The KIA Rio that I run to work and back everyday sure don't cut
it in the trailering department. I realize that some people cannot
afford two vehicles. If we had to give up one, despite gas prices,
despite the "environment", it would probably be the Rio. The SUV is just
too useful.


Fine, but you're not typical of the vast majority of truck owners. You
actually have a need for a towing vehicle.


Heh, heh .... I've heard the question on occasion, "What the heck do you
need a truck like that for?" (not knowing that I originally bought it to
tow a fifth wheel camper, now sold)

Next thing you know the same person is calling you on Saturday morning
wondering if they can borrow your truck for an hour or so to pick up
something at the Home Depot. Or (if I am not doing anything) to launch
their boat.

RCE



RG April 24th 06 07:14 PM

Peak Oil - counterargument
 

Come to think of it ...... what the heck is a guy like me, at my age,
going to do with a big, black Harley-Davidson edition F-350 Powerstroke
diesel?


It would appear to use it to capture and drag yet another gas eating monster
back to your lair, to add to your army of evil minions.



Doug Kanter April 24th 06 07:22 PM

Peak Oil - counterargument
 

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"RCE" wrote in message
...
Y'all ain't gittin my truck, even if'in i hafta learn how to load the
bullits in my shotgun and carry it ona rack in the rear window!

RCE



That is, of course, unless you make me an offer I can't refuse.

RCE


I made you a sincere offer. Cash.


You forgot to read the "can't refuse" part.

Besides, what's a guy like you, at your age, going to do with a big, black
Harley-Davidson edition F-350 Powerstroke diesel?

Come to think of it ...... what the heck is a guy like me, at my age,
going to do with a big, black Harley-Davidson edition F-350 Powerstroke
diesel?

RCE

RCE


I understand Viagra is suspected of causing eye problems. I guess the truck
is safer in that regard.



Doug Kanter April 24th 06 07:23 PM

Peak Oil - counterargument
 
"tillius" wrote in message
ups.com...

JimH wrote:

The bottom line is that it remains all about choice....and choice is
good.

For you it also remains 'do as I say but not as I do' your rules apply to
everyone but you.


Actually, no. I want people to more closely examine their choices, instead
of buying what they're told to buy by the car companies.



Doug Kanter April 24th 06 07:28 PM

Peak Oil - counterargument
 
"tillius" wrote in message
ups.com...

Cool. Now I'll get Stalin-esque. Slap an enormous, annual tax on trucks,
unless an owner can show that he actually has a purpose for it, other
than
"I just wanted a Dodge with a hemi so I could hang chrome accessories on
it". No trailer registered to the same owner, meaning he tows nothing? He
gets taxed. Not in a profession which actually requires a truck, like
carpenters & landscapers? He gets taxed. If a doctor decides to become a
plumber, there are ways of giving him back his surcharge in future years.
No
more buying a huge truck just because every 4 years, you need to bring
home
a bale of peat moss.



Hey, don't forget to slap that tax on those who could've gotten away
with using a minivan but CHOSE to get a vehicle with rear-wheel drive
instead, although they had NO REAL REASON for it, other than, "I didn't
want front wheel drive".



I had actual experience towing with front wheel drive. Only stupid people
suggest it as a good idea for towing. Passable, but far from optimal. How
about you? What do you have to back up YOUR comment about it?



tillius April 24th 06 07:34 PM

Peak Oil - counterargument
 

Doug Kanter wrote:
"tillius" wrote in message
ups.com...

Cool. Now I'll get Stalin-esque. Slap an enormous, annual tax on trucks,
unless an owner can show that he actually has a purpose for it, other
than
"I just wanted a Dodge with a hemi so I could hang chrome accessories on
it". No trailer registered to the same owner, meaning he tows nothing? He
gets taxed. Not in a profession which actually requires a truck, like
carpenters & landscapers? He gets taxed. If a doctor decides to become a
plumber, there are ways of giving him back his surcharge in future years.
No
more buying a huge truck just because every 4 years, you need to bring
home
a bale of peat moss.



Hey, don't forget to slap that tax on those who could've gotten away
with using a minivan but CHOSE to get a vehicle with rear-wheel drive
instead, although they had NO REAL REASON for it, other than, "I didn't
want front wheel drive".



I had actual experience towing with front wheel drive. Only stupid people
suggest it as a good idea for towing. Passable, but far from optimal. How
about you? What do you have to back up YOUR comment about it?


I tow my boat with a FWD Dodge Caravan. It is completely passable. I
could choose a RWD for convenience, but it IS NOT a necessity, it is a
CHOICE.

More left-wing-nut hypocrisy.

Till



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