"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 16:19:42 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

Oh yes, we all know now that towability is the single most important
criteria when evaluating boats.

i know one guy who is pretty annoyed about towability. when i was on
my way to the mri this morning, i saw a hunter 45c on a flatbed pulled
over by the ct sp - i wonder why? :)

He wanted a tour of the boat? When I drove a corvette on the streets, I had
cops that would pull me over for a minor thing and want to talk about the
car.

"Bryan" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Look, the Parker is a fine half-day fishing platform. However, for
the
particular usage contemplated in The Challenge it comes up short.
Take a
closer look at its weight, towing profile and *width* compared to
the
Grady or 2252. If given the choice, which would you prefer to tow
to
remote adventures.

Uh, you're not familiar with the two boats. My Parker has a much,
much
larger cabin area than that Bayliner, with full standing headroom in
the
main cabin, along with running water, a refrigerator, a stove burner,
and two fans, plus opening side windows, an opening windshield, and
opening windows and a hatch forward. There's also a full electric
head
up forward. And in the cabin and exterior steering and control
stations.
Plus, my Parker has flat, open cockpit that measures nearly 11' by
about
8.5', big enough to set up a picnic table and chairs. And it has a
full
bimini. Plus there's a full-width motor bracket with ladder.

How nice, but I wouldn't want to tow it any distance. So there we are.
You've made your points about towing and I've made mine about
towability. Hopefully, the info can be used productively.

--
Skipper

Skipper,
I am not sure if my question was posted, but do you have any plans to
visit Gulf of Cortes in the near future?



Well, "Reggie," you just came up a point in my book. You spelled Cortés
properly. The man was Spanish, not Mexican.

Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment).
It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the Gulf of
California.
I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if someone actually looks it up
and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up with and I'm, like the man
says, stickin' to it.
I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially
you fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia del Los Angeles would be a great destination. Don't worry about the
North winds too much, but watch out for the West winds that come howlin'
down off the hills now and then. As much as I would really enjoy
revisiting the area as a boater, it's just too far for me to tow.


Amen on the winds. Driving from San Filipe to Ensenada years go, my 1975
Chevy van had a hard time going up the steep hills with a 50-60 mile per
hour head wind.

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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Once the weather breaks I have a ton of work to do before we launch.

1. Rip out cockpit carpeting and install new carpeting.
2. Install new helm seat and pedestal.
3. Install second battery and A/B switch.
4. Gelcoat repair on 3 dings.
5. Epoxy coat the bottom (the boat was always trailered before and has
no bottom paint)
6. Bottom paint the bottom
7. Install bimini.
8. Install new CD player/FM radio.

Items 3, 7 and 8 may wait till the boat is launched and dockside....it
all depends on how fast I get the other stuff done and if the weather
cooperates.

So how about you? What things do you have to do to your boat before
Spring launch.


My wife and I took a little trip this afternoon to pick our dock at the
new marina. #303 with the ramp on my starboard. Nice drive up dock with
plenty of grassy and tree filled areas..........more importantly quite
cheap at $950 for the season, including water and electric. ;-)

Mine just went up to $1825 and it isn't a drive up either

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:

Second, the overall profile of the 2252 makes it easier to tow at
interstate speeds.


I don't tow at "interstate" speeds. I tow between 55 and 60 mph. Easier
on me, easier on the trucks, easier on the fuel tank.


That's right. When I towed my 'new to me' sailboat back 1200 km from
Quebec I stayed at 90km. This was no problem on divided 4 lane
highways, but in some areas of the Trans Canada it was old fashioned two
lane blacktop. Very uncomfortable to see an 18 wheeler grill filling
your rearview mirror as he desperately tries to pass on rough busy road

I tow at freeway speeds. But the limit is 55 in California, and they
seem to ignore 65 on the freeway, as everybody is averaging 10 over
anyway. I drive to Los Angeles at about 80. Truck runs good there, gets
good milage, and sort of like SS Tom, I love speed.


I got tired of towing after just 2 months of it. The boat goes in the
water at a dock from now on.


Too many different waters I like. is about 45 miles to Pillar Point Harbor
for salmon and crabs. 20 miles to SF Bay at San Leandro for stripers /
sharks / sturgeon. 40 miles to the Sacramento Delta for Black Bass '
stripers / sturgeon. 120 miles to Cherry Lake by Yosemite for camping and
skiing and hiking. and the rivers I like to run at about 130 miles.

"Bryan" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:

Second, the overall profile of the 2252 makes it easier to tow at
interstate speeds.


I don't tow at "interstate" speeds. I tow between 55 and 60 mph. Easier
on me, easier on the trucks, easier on the fuel tank.


That's right. When I towed my 'new to me' sailboat back 1200 km from
Quebec I stayed at 90km. This was no problem on divided 4 lane
highways, but in some areas of the Trans Canada it was old fashioned two
lane blacktop. Very uncomfortable to see an 18 wheeler grill filling
your rearview mirror as he desperately tries to pass on rough busy road

I tow at freeway speeds. But the limit is 55 in California, and they
seem to ignore 65 on the freeway, as everybody is averaging 10 over
anyway. I drive to Los Angeles at about 80. Truck runs good there, gets
good milage, and sort of like SS Tom, I love speed.


Some clarification, Bill. Do you tow your boat with your truck at 80 mph
or just drive your truck without the boat at 80 mph?


I tow 65-70 on the freeway. Radar detector on. Without boat I do about
80-82 on trips to LA area. Both daughters live there. At 82 I get about
18.3 mpg at 85 I get about 15.9 mpg. Has got to be the ECU programming. I
tow with a 2004 2500 Crewcab diesel.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:

Second, the overall profile of the 2252 makes it easier to tow at
interstate speeds.


I don't tow at "interstate" speeds. I tow between 55 and 60 mph.
Easier on me, easier on the trucks, easier on the fuel tank.


That's right. When I towed my 'new to me' sailboat back 1200 km from
Quebec I stayed at 90km. This was no problem on divided 4 lane
highways, but in some areas of the Trans Canada it was old fashioned
two lane blacktop. Very uncomfortable to see an 18 wheeler grill
filling your rearview mirror as he desperately tries to pass on rough
busy road

I tow at freeway speeds. But the limit is 55 in California, and they
seem to ignore 65 on the freeway, as everybody is averaging 10 over
anyway. I drive to Los Angeles at about 80. Truck runs good there,
gets good milage, and sort of like SS Tom, I love speed.


I got tired of towing after just 2 months of it. The boat goes in the
water at a dock from now on.


Too many different waters I like. is about 45 miles to Pillar Point
Harbor for salmon and crabs. 20 miles to SF Bay at San Leandro for
stripers / sharks / sturgeon. 40 miles to the Sacramento Delta for Black
Bass ' stripers / sturgeon. 120 miles to Cherry Lake by Yosemite for
camping and skiing and hiking. and the rivers I like to run at about 130
miles.


What great options you have Bill! For us it is either inland lakes or the
Great Lakes, Lake Erie being most convenient.

"P. Fritz" paulfritz ATvoyager DOTnet wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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Once the weather breaks I have a ton of work to do before we launch.

1. Rip out cockpit carpeting and install new carpeting.
2. Install new helm seat and pedestal.
3. Install second battery and A/B switch.
4. Gelcoat repair on 3 dings.
5. Epoxy coat the bottom (the boat was always trailered before and has
no bottom paint)
6. Bottom paint the bottom
7. Install bimini.
8. Install new CD player/FM radio.

Items 3, 7 and 8 may wait till the boat is launched and dockside....it
all depends on how fast I get the other stuff done and if the weather
cooperates.

So how about you? What things do you have to do to your boat before
Spring launch.


My wife and I took a little trip this afternoon to pick our dock at the
new marina. #303 with the ramp on my starboard. Nice drive up dock
with plenty of grassy and tree filled areas..........more importantly
quite cheap at $950 for the season, including water and electric. ;-)

Mine just went up to $1825 and it isn't a drive up either






We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was a drive
up dock and quite nice.

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was a drive
up dock and quite nice.


What's a "drive up dock"?

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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We were paying close to that when we had our 32 footer, but it was a
drive up dock and quite nice.


What's a "drive up dock"?

Eisboch


Drive up right to your dock.........no need to walk down finger piers to
your boat hundreds of yards from where you parked.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Bryan wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Look, the Parker is a fine half-day fishing platform. However, for
the
particular usage contemplated in The Challenge it comes up short.
Take a
closer look at its weight, towing profile and *width* compared to
the
Grady or 2252. If given the choice, which would you prefer to tow
to
remote adventures.
Uh, you're not familiar with the two boats. My Parker has a much,
much
larger cabin area than that Bayliner, with full standing headroom in
the
main cabin, along with running water, a refrigerator, a stove
burner,
and two fans, plus opening side windows, an opening windshield, and
opening windows and a hatch forward. There's also a full electric
head
up forward. And in the cabin and exterior steering and control
stations.
Plus, my Parker has flat, open cockpit that measures nearly 11' by
about
8.5', big enough to set up a picnic table and chairs. And it has a
full
bimini. Plus there's a full-width motor bracket with ladder.
How nice, but I wouldn't want to tow it any distance. So there we
are.
You've made your points about towing and I've made mine about
towability. Hopefully, the info can be used productively.

--
Skipper
Skipper,
I am not sure if my question was posted, but do you have any plans to
visit Gulf of Cortes in the near future?


Well, "Reggie," you just came up a point in my book. You spelled Cortés
properly. The man was Spanish, not Mexican.

Ok, I just have to jump in (I don't have anything better to do at the
moment).
It is the Sea of Cortez (of Cortes, maybe, maybe not) or the Gulf of
California.
I'll, of course, be a little embarrassed if someone actually looks it up
and proves me wrong, but that's what I grew up with and I'm, like the man
says, stickin' to it.
I used to camp at Playa Santispac and I've been to Santa Rosalia. If
anyone isn't daunted by the logistics of getting to the area, especially
you fishermen, it is well worth the visit at least once in your travels;
Bahia del Los Angeles would be a great destination. Don't worry about
the North winds too much, but watch out for the West winds that come
howlin' down off the hills now and then. As much as I would really enjoy
revisiting the area as a boater, it's just too far for me to tow.


Sigh. Once again, Cortés was Spanish, not Mexican. Therefore his last name
is spelled Cortés, not Cortez. Cortes is the Mexican spelling of the name,
but not the way the man himself spelled it.

But, Harry, the sea, not the man, is called the Sea of Cortez. It doesn't
matter that he was a Spaniard. The Gulf of California is called the Sea of
Cortez. Now I will concede that this spelling is prevalent on English
language maps and documents, and that Spanish language maps and documents
may very well disagree with the spelling. Still, you remind me of me back
in the day when I took my last university English course. One of the topics
we covered was the evolution of language. It was very upsetting to me, the
dumbing down of the language; but I had to concede that language, whether it
was alright with me, or not, does evolve, and words and their meanings,
uses, pronunciations, even spellings, does change as a result of external
pressures. So, whether Senor Cortes was Spanish or Mexican makes no
difference to me; I still have to look up the Sea of Cortez under the Cortez
spelling. By the way, did you really find my comment on spelling more
interesting than my suggestion that boating in the Gulf of California would
be a great idea for anyone interested in such an endeavor?