Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Harry Krause wrote:
snip...

McAlhany said he saw Alpizar before the flight and is absolutely
stunned by what unfolded on the airplane. He says he saw Alpizar eating
a sandwich in the boarding area before getting on the plane. He looked
normal at that time, McAlhany says. He thinks the whole thing was a
mistake: "I don't believe he should be dead right now."


Gotta wonder if those sky marshalls were ever in the National Guard or
Reserves. They sure do seem gun happy.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
snip...


McAlhany said he saw Alpizar before the flight and is absolutely
stunned by what unfolded on the airplane. He says he saw Alpizar eating
a sandwich in the boarding area before getting on the plane. He looked
normal at that time, McAlhany says. He thinks the whole thing was a
mistake: "I don't believe he should be dead right now."



Gotta wonder if those sky marshalls were ever in the National Guard or
Reserves. They sure do seem gun happy.

Yup. Long history of shooting up planes and killing innocent people. I
wonder why they were never reported?

NOT "gun happy"? No...can't be because Don said they are.

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"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
snip...

McAlhany said he saw Alpizar before the flight and is absolutely
stunned by what unfolded on the airplane. He says he saw Alpizar eating
a sandwich in the boarding area before getting on the plane. He looked
normal at that time, McAlhany says. He thinks the whole thing was a
mistake: "I don't believe he should be dead right now."


Gotta wonder if those sky marshalls were ever in the National Guard or
Reserves. They sure do seem gun happy.

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.

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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.

I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired. Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

Jim C.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.

I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired. Does
that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have six
bullets in him.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Jim Carter wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.


I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired. Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

Jim C.



Why just pop the guy with one shot when half a dozen will do.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Jim Carter wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.


I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired. Does
that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

Jim C.



Why just pop the guy with one shot when half a dozen will do.

If you figure he is a bomber, you at least "double tap" him. Make sure he
is down. Just because you get shot, does not mean you are either down or
dead.

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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...
If you figure he is a bomber, you at least "double tap" him. Make sure he
is down. Just because you get shot, does not mean you are either down or
dead.
You can't be right, well, not according to Bert.

Jim C.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Don,
Do you honestly believe the Marshals were sadist who enjoyed killing
someone? If so, what makes you believe that?


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Jim Carter wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.


I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired. Does
that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

Jim C.



Why just pop the guy with one shot when half a dozen will do.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Jim Carter wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.


I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired. Does
that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

Jim C.



Why just pop the guy with one shot when half a dozen will do.

It is a wasteful to use six rounds when you only need one.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
nk.net...
If you figure he is a bomber, you at least "double tap" him. Make sure
he
is down. Just because you get shot, does not mean you are either down or
dead.
You can't be right, well, not according to Bert.

Depends upon whether you get a head shot or not.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.
I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired. Does
that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have six
bullets in him.




Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat experience
guarding the loo, Bertie?

Do you feel better now that you have denigrated someone today?

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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 06:27:54 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.
I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired. Does
that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have six
bullets in him.




Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat
experience guarding the loo, Bertie?

Harry, are you denigrating Bert's service in the Marine Corps? Does this in some way make *you* a
more credible person, especially given your total lack of *any* military service?

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

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"Don White" wrote in message
...
Jim Carter wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.


I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired. Does
that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

Jim C.



Why just pop the guy with one shot when half a dozen will do.

When shooting in a plane, these guys are trained to make the most difficult
shot first: The head, if possible, and for obvious reasons. I don't know if
they do the same when dealing with someone who's on the entry ramp. If yes,
then the extra shots were just insurance because the one in the head PRETTY
MUCH ends things.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.

I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired.
Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?


It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have six
bullets in him.




Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat
experience guarding the loo, Bertie?

Bert would have lobbed half a dozen artillery shells at the hapless
victim...from a safe distance of course.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.

I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired. Does
that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?


It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have six
bullets in him.




Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat
experience guarding the loo, Bertie?

Bert would have lobbed half a dozen artillery shells at the hapless
victim...from a safe distance of course.


"Hapless victim"?

Oh my.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

Jim Carter wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.


I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired.
Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

Jim C.


Why just pop the guy with one shot when half a dozen will do.


It is a wasteful to use six rounds when you only need one.



Bert, no doubt, is recounting his years of experience as a US Marine
stationed stateside, guarding the latrine on his weekend of duty each
month.

His job: shoot anyone who pulled more than four sheets of tp off the
roller.


Now that's funny!

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

Jim Carter wrote:

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.


I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired.
Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

Jim C.


Why just pop the guy with one shot when half a dozen will do.


It is a wasteful to use six rounds when you only need one.



Bert, no doubt, is recounting his years of experience as a US Marine
stationed stateside, guarding the latrine on his weekend of duty each
month.

His job: shoot anyone who pulled more than four sheets of tp off the
roller.


Now that's funny!

To a 10 year old.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 07:33:09 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Bert Robbins wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Jim Carter wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.

I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired. Does
that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

Jim C.


Why just pop the guy with one shot when half a dozen will do.

It is a wasteful to use six rounds when you only need one.



Bert, no doubt, is recounting his years of experience as a US Marine
stationed stateside, guarding the latrine on his weekend of duty each month.

His job: shoot anyone who pulled more than four sheets of tp off the roller.

From someone who served no where.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:26:50 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.
I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired.
Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have six
bullets in him.



Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat
experience guarding the loo, Bertie?

Bert would have lobbed half a dozen artillery shells at the hapless
victim...from a safe distance of course.



I have a feeling Bert would need a half dozen boxes of ammo to hit the
side of a barn. Accuracy with firearms requires regular practice. I go
to one of three ranges at least once a month, year-around. Most of the
cops I see at the ranges are there about every other week. I've asked
them about that. It's fun to shoot with cops, because they sometimes
have "unusual" guns with them, and they'll let you pop off a few rounds
if they recognize you and you ask.

LOL!

What a joke!

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:26:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.
I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired.
Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?

It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming
at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have six
bullets in him.



Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat
experience guarding the loo, Bertie?

Bert would have lobbed half a dozen artillery shells at the hapless
victim...from a safe distance of course.



I have a feeling Bert would need a half dozen boxes of ammo to hit the
side of a barn. Accuracy with firearms requires regular practice. I go
to one of three ranges at least once a month, year-around. Most of the
cops I see at the ranges are there about every other week. I've asked
them about that. It's fun to shoot with cops, because they sometimes
have "unusual" guns with them, and they'll let you pop off a few rounds
if they recognize you and you ask.

LOL!

What a joke!


"Narcissists are totally and inflexibly authoritarian. In other words,
they are suck-ups. They want to be authority figures and, short of that,
they want to be associated with authority figures. In their hearts, they
know they can't think well, have no judgment about what matters, are not
connected with the world they inhabit, so they cling fanatically to the
opinions of people they regard as authority figures -- such as their
parents, teachers, doctors, ministers.


--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of
OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:26:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.
I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired.
Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?
It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming
at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have six
bullets in him.


Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat
experience guarding the loo, Bertie?

Bert would have lobbed half a dozen artillery shells at the hapless
victim...from a safe distance of course.


I have a feeling Bert would need a half dozen boxes of ammo to hit the
side of a barn. Accuracy with firearms requires regular practice. I go
to one of three ranges at least once a month, year-around. Most of the
cops I see at the ranges are there about every other week. I've asked
them about that. It's fun to shoot with cops, because they sometimes
have "unusual" guns with them, and they'll let you pop off a few rounds
if they recognize you and you ask.

LOL!

What a joke!

--



You planning to meet me at the Gilbert range near you, to show off your
military prowess with a handgun, Herring?

I also go out to the Blue Ridge facility in Chantilly. I've not seen you
there, either. Or at the MSAR.

I suspect what you shoot off these days is...your mouth.

You are proud of your guns, rifles and shotguns, and rightfully so. You
stated you will use them to protect you and your wife against an intruder,
perhaps whose sole intention is only to steal your super fast computer.

Yet air marshals who are assigned to protect us should not use their guns
when confronting a suicide bomber.

Interesting.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:26:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.
I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired.
Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?
It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming
at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have six
bullets in him.


Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat
experience guarding the loo, Bertie?

Bert would have lobbed half a dozen artillery shells at the hapless
victim...from a safe distance of course.


I have a feeling Bert would need a half dozen boxes of ammo to hit the
side of a barn. Accuracy with firearms requires regular practice. I go
to one of three ranges at least once a month, year-around. Most of the
cops I see at the ranges are there about every other week. I've asked
them about that. It's fun to shoot with cops, because they sometimes
have "unusual" guns with them, and they'll let you pop off a few rounds
if they recognize you and you ask.

LOL!

What a joke!

--



You planning to meet me at the Gilbert range near you, to show off your
military prowess with a handgun, Herring?

I also go out to the Blue Ridge facility in Chantilly. I've not seen you
there, either. Or at the MSAR.

I suspect what you shoot off these days is...your mouth.

This, by a person who is anti-handgun?

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Bill,
Harry is not anti-handgun, he likes to shot handguns. He just doesn't want
anyone else to own a handgun.


"Bill McKee" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:26:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.
I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired.
Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?
It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming
at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have
six bullets in him.


Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat
experience guarding the loo, Bertie?

Bert would have lobbed half a dozen artillery shells at the hapless
victim...from a safe distance of course.


I have a feeling Bert would need a half dozen boxes of ammo to hit the
side of a barn. Accuracy with firearms requires regular practice. I go
to one of three ranges at least once a month, year-around. Most of the
cops I see at the ranges are there about every other week. I've asked
them about that. It's fun to shoot with cops, because they sometimes
have "unusual" guns with them, and they'll let you pop off a few rounds
if they recognize you and you ask.

LOL!

What a joke!

--



You planning to meet me at the Gilbert range near you, to show off your
military prowess with a handgun, Herring?

I also go out to the Blue Ridge facility in Chantilly. I've not seen you
there, either. Or at the MSAR.

I suspect what you shoot off these days is...your mouth.

This, by a person who is anti-handgun?

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:26:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.
I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired.
Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?
It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming
at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have
six bullets in him.


Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat
experience guarding the loo, Bertie?

Bert would have lobbed half a dozen artillery shells at the hapless
victim...from a safe distance of course.

I have a feeling Bert would need a half dozen boxes of ammo to hit the
side of a barn. Accuracy with firearms requires regular practice. I go
to one of three ranges at least once a month, year-around. Most of the
cops I see at the ranges are there about every other week. I've asked
them about that. It's fun to shoot with cops, because they sometimes
have "unusual" guns with them, and they'll let you pop off a few rounds
if they recognize you and you ask.
LOL!

What a joke!

--



You planning to meet me at the Gilbert range near you, to show off your
military prowess with a handgun, Herring?

I also go out to the Blue Ridge facility in Chantilly. I've not seen you
there, either. Or at the MSAR.

I suspect what you shoot off these days is...your mouth.

Here you go, Herring, 9mm and .22LR, offhand, 25 yards:

http://tinyurl.com/8k2mh



Nice shooting Harry.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Harry,

So you were against handguns when you didn't own one. Now you own one and
are all for private ownership of handguns.

Doesn't that mean you are against fully auto handguns and rifles until you
want to buy one?

You used to say the only people who want to own handguns use the gun to
compensate for them having a tiny penis. Has something terrible happen
that caused you to modify your position?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bill McKee wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:26:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.
I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired.
Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?
It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming
at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have
six bullets in him.


Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat
experience guarding the loo, Bertie?

Bert would have lobbed half a dozen artillery shells at the hapless
victim...from a safe distance of course.

I have a feeling Bert would need a half dozen boxes of ammo to hit the
side of a barn. Accuracy with firearms requires regular practice. I go
to one of three ranges at least once a month, year-around. Most of the
cops I see at the ranges are there about every other week. I've asked
them about that. It's fun to shoot with cops, because they sometimes
have "unusual" guns with them, and they'll let you pop off a few
rounds if they recognize you and you ask.
LOL!

What a joke!

--


You planning to meet me at the Gilbert range near you, to show off your
military prowess with a handgun, Herring?

I also go out to the Blue Ridge facility in Chantilly. I've not seen you
there, either. Or at the MSAR.

I suspect what you shoot off these days is...your mouth.

This, by a person who is anti-handgun?

I'm not anti-handgun.
I'm anti-any-idiot-who-can-breathe-being-able-to-buy-one.
I used to be totally against private ownership of handguns, but
unlike your president, I am capable of learning and have modified my views
over the years. I am still, however, opposed to private citizens owning
fully auto handguns or rifles.
I prefer shotguns for home defense.
I've shot firearms for fun most of my life, mostly shotguns.



--
Hurricane Bush - the Real Disaster

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Harry Krause wrote:

I'm not anti-handgun.

Not true!

I used to be totally against private ownership of handguns, but
unlike your president, I am capable of learning

He shows no sign of such learnin.

I am still, however, opposed to private citizens
owning fully auto handguns or rifles.

That is a position taken from ignorance. Collectors and hobbyists take
great pride in their ownership of Thompsons, MG-38s, MG-42s, Brownings
and Maxims. They make great investments. Americans have always had the
right to keep and bear arms...and the rad left is always trying to take
that right away and further weaken America.

I prefer shotguns for home defense. I've shot firearms for fun
most of my life, mostly shotguns.

Most of your life, huh? And you don't know your sporting clays average
or rating?

--
Skipper

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Harry Krause wrote:

Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

I'm not anti-handgun.

Not true!

I used to be totally against private ownership of handguns, but
unlike your president, I am capable of learning

He shows no sign of such learnin.

Yes, I know.

Yes we *do* know. We know that machine guns are legal in this
country...providing they are registered!!

To legally buy and register a machine gun in this country you must: (1)
Reside in a State that allows either live or dewat guns; (2) Be at least
21 years old; (3) Never have been convicted of a felony; and (4) Be a
citizen in good standing.

And we also are aware that whackos in the ATF and other federal bureaus
are doing everything they can to take legal rights and traditions away
from American citizens as they have at Ruby Ridge, Waco, and at a
commercial airliner just yesterday.

--
Skipper

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...

And we also are aware that whackos in the ATF and other federal bureaus
are doing everything they can to take legal rights and traditions away
from American citizens as they have at Ruby Ridge, Waco, and at a
commercial airliner just yesterday.

Actually, ATF and other "bureaus" don't make laws, dummy. You do, through
your elected representatives.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Skipper" wrote...

And we also are aware that whackos in the ATF and other federal bureaus
are doing everything they can to take legal rights and traditions away
from American citizens as they have at Ruby Ridge, Waco, and at a
commercial airliner just yesterday.

Actually, ATF and other "bureaus" don't make laws, dummy. You do, through
your elected representatives.

Actually, lefties in the ATF and other federal bureaus *do* abuse
existing law all the time...as do rad/libs in the Ninth Circuit.
Traditional American values are under constant attack by the left.

--
Skipper

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 13:00:53 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

*JimH* wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:26:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.
I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired.
Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?
It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming
at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have six
bullets in him.


Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat
experience guarding the loo, Bertie?

Bert would have lobbed half a dozen artillery shells at the hapless
victim...from a safe distance of course.

I have a feeling Bert would need a half dozen boxes of ammo to hit the
side of a barn. Accuracy with firearms requires regular practice. I go
to one of three ranges at least once a month, year-around. Most of the
cops I see at the ranges are there about every other week. I've asked
them about that. It's fun to shoot with cops, because they sometimes
have "unusual" guns with them, and they'll let you pop off a few rounds
if they recognize you and you ask.
LOL!

What a joke!

--


You planning to meet me at the Gilbert range near you, to show off your
military prowess with a handgun, Herring?

I also go out to the Blue Ridge facility in Chantilly. I've not seen you
there, either. Or at the MSAR.

I suspect what you shoot off these days is...your mouth.

You are proud of your guns, rifles and shotguns, and rightfully so. You
stated you will use them to protect you and your wife against an intruder,
perhaps whose sole intention is only to steal your super fast computer.

Yet air marshals who are assigned to protect us should not use their guns
when confronting a suicide bomber.

Interesting.



A. I believe in home defense.

B. I would only shoot an intruder whom I perceived to
be a physical threat.

C. The dead guy was not a suicide bomber. Or any other kind of bomber.

D. I suspect Herring, with his vision, would not be able to hit a
man-sized target with a handgun from 25 yards.

Not on the first shot, but I've learned how to adjust. Of course, I don't go bragging about what I
shoot, how well I shoot, where I shoot, and with whom I shoot.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Bill,
Harry is not anti-handgun, he likes to shot handguns. He just doesn't want
anyone else to own a handgun.


...or at least, none of the gun happy righties.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 13:17:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:

Bill McKee wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:26:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.
I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired.
Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?
It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are aiming
at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have six
bullets in him.


Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat
experience guarding the loo, Bertie?

Bert would have lobbed half a dozen artillery shells at the hapless
victim...from a safe distance of course.

I have a feeling Bert would need a half dozen boxes of ammo to hit the
side of a barn. Accuracy with firearms requires regular practice. I go
to one of three ranges at least once a month, year-around. Most of the
cops I see at the ranges are there about every other week. I've asked
them about that. It's fun to shoot with cops, because they sometimes
have "unusual" guns with them, and they'll let you pop off a few rounds
if they recognize you and you ask.
LOL!

What a joke!

--


You planning to meet me at the Gilbert range near you, to show off your
military prowess with a handgun, Herring?

I also go out to the Blue Ridge facility in Chantilly. I've not seen you
there, either. Or at the MSAR.

I suspect what you shoot off these days is...your mouth.

This, by a person who is anti-handgun?



I'm not anti-handgun.
I'm anti-any-idiot-who-can-breathe-being-able-to-buy-one.
I used to be totally against private ownership of handguns, but
unlike your president, I am capable of learning and have modified my
views over the years. I am still, however, opposed to private citizens
owning fully auto handguns or rifles.
I prefer shotguns for home defense.
I've shot firearms for fun most of my life, mostly shotguns.

Where would you find a 'fully automatic handgun'? I don't believe I've ever seen one. Of course, I'm
not nearly the firearms expert you proclaim yourself to be.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you Peace, Fellowship, and Good Humor as we celebrate the birth of OUR Lord, Jesus Christ on the Christmas Holy Day.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
Bill,
Harry is not anti-handgun, he likes to shot handguns. He just doesn't
want anyone else to own a handgun.


..or at least, none of the gun happy righties.

I resent that remark. I own a gun primarily to deal with a situation which I
know is coming soon: I will walk into the living room to discuss something
briefly with my son, who will be in TV coma mode. His only response will be
"Uh huh.....OK". You've seen this - you know the teenager has absolutely no
idea what you just said. I will then hand him the shooting glasses and
hearing protector things and tell him to put them on. He'll say "Uh huh" and
mindlessly obey. I will then shoot the TV.

Televisions are so cheap that it would be worth $300 bucks just to see the
look on his face, and get perhaps get a week or three of attentiveness out
of him.

:-)

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 13:17:40 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Bill McKee wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:26:50 -0500, Harry Krause

wrote:

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

It means they were properly trained to handle and use firearms.

One shot, one kill.
I had heard on the news today that there were many shots fired.
Does that
mean that several people were killed that we don't know about?
It means that when you fire your weapon you hit what you are
aiming
at.

If six guys aimed at the same person then that person should have
six
bullets in him.


Something you learned from your years of weekend warrior combat
experience guarding the loo, Bertie?

Bert would have lobbed half a dozen artillery shells at the
hapless
victim...from a safe distance of course.

I have a feeling Bert would need a half dozen boxes of ammo to hit
the
side of a barn. Accuracy with firearms requires regular practice. I
go
to one of three ranges at least once a month, year-around. Most of
the
cops I see at the ranges are there about every other week. I've asked
them about that. It's fun to shoot with cops, because they sometimes
have "unusual" guns with them, and they'll let you pop off a few
rounds
if they recognize you and you ask.
LOL!

What a joke!

--


You planning to meet me at the Gilbert range near you, to show off your
military prowess with a handgun, Herring?

I also go out to the Blue Ridge facility in Chantilly. I've not seen
you
there, either. Or at the MSAR.

I suspect what you shoot off these days is...your mouth.

This, by a person who is anti-handgun?



I'm not anti-handgun.
I'm anti-any-idiot-who-can-breathe-being-able-to-buy-one.
I used to be totally against private ownership of handguns, but
unlike your president, I am capable of learning and have modified my
views over the years. I am still, however, opposed to private citizens
owning fully auto handguns or rifles.
I prefer shotguns for home defense.
I've shot firearms for fun most of my life, mostly shotguns.

Where would you find a 'fully automatic handgun'? I don't believe I've
ever seen one. Of course, I'm
not nearly the firearms expert you proclaim yourself to be.

I'm not sure why you'd want one. Seems tactically stupid. You'd go through
the whole magazine too fast.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

Bill,
Harry is not anti-handgun, he likes to shot handguns. He just doesn't
want anyone else to own a handgun.



..or at least, none of the gun happy righties.


I resent that remark. I own a gun primarily to deal with a situation which I
know is coming soon: I will walk into the living room to discuss something
briefly with my son, who will be in TV coma mode. His only response will be
"Uh huh.....OK". You've seen this - you know the teenager has absolutely no
idea what you just said. I will then hand him the shooting glasses and
hearing protector things and tell him to put them on. He'll say "Uh huh" and
mindlessly obey. I will then shoot the TV.

Televisions are so cheap that it would be worth $300 bucks just to see the
look on his face, and get perhaps get a week or three of attentiveness out
of him.

:-)


Might be better to take your angle cutter pliers and cut the plug off.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:

Bill,
Harry is not anti-handgun, he likes to shot handguns. He just doesn't
want anyone else to own a handgun.



..or at least, none of the gun happy righties.


I resent that remark. I own a gun primarily to deal with a situation
which I know is coming soon: I will walk into the living room to discuss
something briefly with my son, who will be in TV coma mode. His only
response will be "Uh huh.....OK". You've seen this - you know the
teenager has absolutely no idea what you just said. I will then hand him
the shooting glasses and hearing protector things and tell him to put
them on. He'll say "Uh huh" and mindlessly obey. I will then shoot the
TV.

Televisions are so cheap that it would be worth $300 bucks just to see
the look on his face, and get perhaps get a week or three of
attentiveness out of him.

:-)
Might be better to take your angle cutter pliers and cut the plug off.

That would be cheaper, I guess, and not so much cleanup afterward.

Eyewitness: "I Never Heard the Word 'Bomb'"
 

Harry Krause wrote:

Not on the first shot, but I've learned how to adjust. Of course, I
don't go bragging about what I shoot, how well I shoot, where I
shoot, and with whom I shoot.

Gosharoonie. I can hit a small pie-plate sized target at 25 yards with a
semi-auto handgun the first shot and almost every shot, if I
concentrate, and you have to adjust to hit a "man-sized" target?

I suspect you don't "shoot" at all, with a handgun or otherwise.

Is your bad aim another reason why we lost in Vietnam?

I've fitted Crimson Trace Laser grips to my S/W .357 magnum on the
theory that once the perp realizes there is a bright red dot moving
about the middle of his chest a motivation change will result. Thus, no
need to pull the trigger...the ultimate *defensive* weapon.

--
Skipper

Better *Defensive* Handgun
 

Harry Krause wrote:

I've fitted Crimson Trace Laser grips to my S/W .357 magnum on the
theory that once the perp realizes there is a bright red dot moving
about the middle of his chest a motivation change will result. Thus, no
need to pull the trigger...the ultimate *defensive* weapon.

When did you get a pardon? Ex-felons aren't usually allowed ownership of
handguns. Even wheel guns.

So, which is the better *defensive* handgun, a S&W .357 mag fitted with
laser grips or a Glock auto?

--
Skipper

Better *Defensive* Handgun
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

I've fitted Crimson Trace Laser grips to my S/W .357 magnum on the
theory that once the perp realizes there is a bright red dot moving
about the middle of his chest a motivation change will result. Thus, no
need to pull the trigger...the ultimate *defensive* weapon.

When did you get a pardon? Ex-felons aren't usually allowed ownership of
handguns. Even wheel guns.

So, which is the better *defensive* handgun, a S&W .357 mag fitted with
laser grips or a Glock auto?

--
Skipper

How long is the barrel on your gun?