'Top 5' al Qaeda leader killed...again.
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...

Harrry, you should have added the fact that you can do nothing but
whine about it, 'cause you, like the rest of the liberals, have no
ideas!

John, I'm a liberal, and I have a plan. I explained it to you and NOYB
over a year ago. It's absolutely perfect. It's derived from commonly
accepted methods of discliplining children.

Put them in timeout?



Close, but it's permanent time out.

'Top 5' al Qaeda leader killed...again.
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:40:19 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..

Harrry, you should have added the fact that you can do nothing but
whine about it, 'cause you, like the rest of the liberals, have no
ideas!

John, I'm a liberal, and I have a plan. I explained it to you and NOYB
over
a year ago. It's absolutely perfect. It's derived from commonly accepted
methods of discliplining children. Have you forgotten already?


Yup. It must not have overly impressed me, or I didn't see it. Tell me
again, please. But please don't adopt Harry's cut and run attitude,
'cause that won't fly.

--
John

1) Indicate to Muslim-dominant countries that we have a lottery tumbler
filled with balls containing the names of every town in their countries with
a population greater than some number. Let's use 5,000 as a minimum
population. Show a demo of the tumbler on television, being spun by a
scantily clad woman.

2) Any time American property or life is attacked, anywhere, we will quickly
determine if the attack appears to have been conducted by Islamic wackos. We
don't need to know specifically who. One bunch or another usually claims
responsibility. That's how radicals have always been, regardless of whether
they're Irish, Colombian, skinheads, Italian, SDS, whatever. It's an ego
thing.

3) Indicate to the list of governments that if an attack on us takes place
anywhere, we will spin the lottery tumbler, pick a town, and level it
completely. Might take a few days, since there's a limit as to how much
weaponry a jet can carry, but we'll be sure to do a good job. It's important
that the attack begin with seconds of the named ball falling from the
lottery tumbler. No choking one's chicken for 8 months, as your president
did with Iraq.

4) Get our troops out of whatever country these people are whining about at
the moment. Like Iraq. Indicate to the list of potential offenders that it
is now the job of their governments and clergy to keep their problems within
their own borders, where they belong. In other words, "We're leaving, as you
asked. Now you have nothing to cry and complain about. If you need to
continue complaining, do it in your own rooms, with the doors closed and
don't come out until you're ready to behave properly. If you find mullahs
who still want to preach hatred and destruction, we will gladly help you
'calm' them down, via lobotomy, prison (here), or whatever is necessary.
Drop them off at the nearest embassy and we'll handle it from there. We'll
be doing the same with Pat Robertson, Dick Cheney, and some of our other
mullahs".

Of course, the world will think this is madness, so we should demonstrate,
just once, on an unpopulated target.

'Top 5' al Qaeda leader killed...again.
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:


Is it my fault that I wasn't sent overseas? No. I was ready to go if
called upon. When I was 18 I decided that I would join the USMC
Reserve
and serve my country while I was continuing my education and working
full
time. One of my prized possessions is my USMC Honorable Discharge pin.
You don't have one and you never will.

But I do have a pin for "perfect attendance" for one of my years in
high
school. You don't have one of those, and you never will. Actually, I'm
not
sure I have the pin anymore. Or my Boy Scout pins or merit badges.

You are jealous.

What were you doing when you were 18? Sitting around praying that your
lottery number was high enough that you wouldn't get drafted? Why
didn't
you ever serve your country?

I was in college at 18, Bertbrain. And I did serve my country, in an
exemplary manner. I got a nice hand-signed letter from the POTUS at
that
time, and the offer of a top-level job political job at a federal
agency,
the first of three top-level federal jobs I turned down. Well, two were
the same job, offered four years apart. Whatever.

Really, which President and what jobs? I was offered several "high"
level
jobs in the federal government too.

I don't have to fabricate my life's adventures and accomplishments. I
will tell you what they are and you can veify them easily.

I'm not that interested in you or your life, Bertie.


Yes, you are interested in every aspect of my life and the lives of all
of
the other "righties" too.


You on the other hand
will not respond to a direct quesiton

Yes, well, not being a marine, I respond to what I feel like responding
to, eh?

What did you do in Vietnam?


"Narcissists are grandiose. They live in an artificial self invented from
fantasies of absolute or perfect power, genius, beauty, etc. Normal
people's
fantasies of themselves, their wishful thinking, take the form of
stories --
these stories often come from movies or TV, or from things they've read or
that were read to them as children. They involve a plot, heroic activity
or
great accomplishments or adventu normal people see themselves in
action,
however preposterous or even impossible that action may be -- they see
themselves doing things that earn them honor, glory, love, riches, fame,
and
they see these fantasy selves as personal potentials, however tenuous"




"narcissists are habitually cruel in little ways, as well as big ones,
because they're paying attention to their fantasy and not to you"

'Top 5' al Qaeda leader killed...again.
 

On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 14:15:31 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:40:19 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...

Harrry, you should have added the fact that you can do nothing but
whine about it, 'cause you, like the rest of the liberals, have no
ideas!

John, I'm a liberal, and I have a plan. I explained it to you and NOYB
over
a year ago. It's absolutely perfect. It's derived from commonly accepted
methods of discliplining children. Have you forgotten already?


Yup. It must not have overly impressed me, or I didn't see it. Tell me
again, please. But please don't adopt Harry's cut and run attitude,
'cause that won't fly.

--
John

1) Indicate to Muslim-dominant countries that we have a lottery tumbler
filled with balls containing the names of every town in their countries with
a population greater than some number. Let's use 5,000 as a minimum
population. Show a demo of the tumbler on television, being spun by a
scantily clad woman.

2) Any time American property or life is attacked, anywhere, we will quickly
determine if the attack appears to have been conducted by Islamic wackos. We
don't need to know specifically who. One bunch or another usually claims
responsibility. That's how radicals have always been, regardless of whether
they're Irish, Colombian, skinheads, Italian, SDS, whatever. It's an ego
thing.

3) Indicate to the list of governments that if an attack on us takes place
anywhere, we will spin the lottery tumbler, pick a town, and level it
completely. Might take a few days, since there's a limit as to how much
weaponry a jet can carry, but we'll be sure to do a good job. It's important
that the attack begin with seconds of the named ball falling from the
lottery tumbler. No choking one's chicken for 8 months, as your president
did with Iraq.

4) Get our troops out of whatever country these people are whining about at
the moment. Like Iraq. Indicate to the list of potential offenders that it
is now the job of their governments and clergy to keep their problems within
their own borders, where they belong. In other words, "We're leaving, as you
asked. Now you have nothing to cry and complain about. If you need to
continue complaining, do it in your own rooms, with the doors closed and
don't come out until you're ready to behave properly. If you find mullahs
who still want to preach hatred and destruction, we will gladly help you
'calm' them down, via lobotomy, prison (here), or whatever is necessary.
Drop them off at the nearest embassy and we'll handle it from there. We'll
be doing the same with Pat Robertson, Dick Cheney, and some of our other
mullahs".

Of course, the world will think this is madness, so we should demonstrate,
just once, on an unpopulated target.


Sounds like a plan. Of course, when the first bomb was dropped all the
liberals in the world would be screaming about the number of innocent
civilians killed, regardless of how many American lives were lost.

--
John H

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

Wishing you the best as we celebrate the birth of our Lord, Jesus Christ.

'Top 5' al Qaeda leader killed...again.
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 14:15:31 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:40:19 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
m...

Harrry, you should have added the fact that you can do nothing but
whine about it, 'cause you, like the rest of the liberals, have no
ideas!

John, I'm a liberal, and I have a plan. I explained it to you and NOYB
over
a year ago. It's absolutely perfect. It's derived from commonly accepted
methods of discliplining children. Have you forgotten already?


Yup. It must not have overly impressed me, or I didn't see it. Tell me
again, please. But please don't adopt Harry's cut and run attitude,
'cause that won't fly.

--
John

1) Indicate to Muslim-dominant countries that we have a lottery tumbler
filled with balls containing the names of every town in their countries
with
a population greater than some number. Let's use 5,000 as a minimum
population. Show a demo of the tumbler on television, being spun by a
scantily clad woman.

2) Any time American property or life is attacked, anywhere, we will
quickly
determine if the attack appears to have been conducted by Islamic wackos.
We
don't need to know specifically who. One bunch or another usually claims
responsibility. That's how radicals have always been, regardless of
whether
they're Irish, Colombian, skinheads, Italian, SDS, whatever. It's an ego
thing.

3) Indicate to the list of governments that if an attack on us takes place
anywhere, we will spin the lottery tumbler, pick a town, and level it
completely. Might take a few days, since there's a limit as to how much
weaponry a jet can carry, but we'll be sure to do a good job. It's
important
that the attack begin with seconds of the named ball falling from the
lottery tumbler. No choking one's chicken for 8 months, as your president
did with Iraq.

4) Get our troops out of whatever country these people are whining about
at
the moment. Like Iraq. Indicate to the list of potential offenders that it
is now the job of their governments and clergy to keep their problems
within
their own borders, where they belong. In other words, "We're leaving, as
you
asked. Now you have nothing to cry and complain about. If you need to
continue complaining, do it in your own rooms, with the doors closed and
don't come out until you're ready to behave properly. If you find mullahs
who still want to preach hatred and destruction, we will gladly help you
'calm' them down, via lobotomy, prison (here), or whatever is necessary.
Drop them off at the nearest embassy and we'll handle it from there. We'll
be doing the same with Pat Robertson, Dick Cheney, and some of our other
mullahs".

Of course, the world will think this is madness, so we should demonstrate,
just once, on an unpopulated target.


Sounds like a plan. Of course, when the first bomb was dropped all the
liberals in the world would be screaming about the number of innocent
civilians killed, regardless of how many American lives were lost.

--
John H

I'm a liberal. I wouldn't argue with discipline which was fairly and
accurately explained before the misbehavior occurred. It's common sense,
like raising kids.

'Top 5' al Qaeda leader killed...again.
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:40:19 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...

Harrry, you should have added the fact that you can do nothing but
whine about it, 'cause you, like the rest of the liberals, have no
ideas!

John, I'm a liberal, and I have a plan. I explained it to you and NOYB
over
a year ago. It's absolutely perfect. It's derived from commonly accepted
methods of discliplining children. Have you forgotten already?


Yup. It must not have overly impressed me, or I didn't see it. Tell me
again, please. But please don't adopt Harry's cut and run attitude,
'cause that won't fly.

--
John

1) Indicate to Muslim-dominant countries that we have a lottery tumbler
filled with balls containing the names of every town in their countries
with a population greater than some number. Let's use 5,000 as a minimum
population. Show a demo of the tumbler on television, being spun by a
scantily clad woman.

2) Any time American property or life is attacked, anywhere, we will
quickly determine if the attack appears to have been conducted by Islamic
wackos. We don't need to know specifically who. One bunch or another
usually claims responsibility. That's how radicals have always been,
regardless of whether they're Irish, Colombian, skinheads, Italian, SDS,
whatever. It's an ego thing.

3) Indicate to the list of governments that if an attack on us takes place
anywhere, we will spin the lottery tumbler, pick a town, and level it
completely. Might take a few days, since there's a limit as to how much
weaponry a jet can carry, but we'll be sure to do a good job. It's
important that the attack begin with seconds of the named ball falling
from the lottery tumbler. No choking one's chicken for 8 months, as your
president did with Iraq.

4) Get our troops out of whatever country these people are whining about
at the moment. Like Iraq. Indicate to the list of potential offenders that
it is now the job of their governments and clergy to keep their problems
within their own borders, where they belong. In other words, "We're
leaving, as you asked. Now you have nothing to cry and complain about. If
you need to continue complaining, do it in your own rooms, with the doors
closed and don't come out until you're ready to behave properly. If you
find mullahs who still want to preach hatred and destruction, we will
gladly help you 'calm' them down, via lobotomy, prison (here), or whatever
is necessary. Drop them off at the nearest embassy and we'll handle it
from there. We'll be doing the same with Pat Robertson, Dick Cheney, and
some of our other mullahs".

Of course, the world will think this is madness, so we should demonstrate,
just once, on an unpopulated target.

Just like Clinton, lobbing cruise missles at an empty terrorist camp. That
will scare them.

How long did it take you develop this idiot plan?

'Top 5' al Qaeda leader killed...again.
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 14:15:31 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:40:19 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
om...

Harrry, you should have added the fact that you can do nothing but
whine about it, 'cause you, like the rest of the liberals, have no
ideas!

John, I'm a liberal, and I have a plan. I explained it to you and NOYB
over
a year ago. It's absolutely perfect. It's derived from commonly
accepted
methods of discliplining children. Have you forgotten already?


Yup. It must not have overly impressed me, or I didn't see it. Tell me
again, please. But please don't adopt Harry's cut and run attitude,
'cause that won't fly.

--
John

1) Indicate to Muslim-dominant countries that we have a lottery tumbler
filled with balls containing the names of every town in their countries
with
a population greater than some number. Let's use 5,000 as a minimum
population. Show a demo of the tumbler on television, being spun by a
scantily clad woman.

2) Any time American property or life is attacked, anywhere, we will
quickly
determine if the attack appears to have been conducted by Islamic wackos.
We
don't need to know specifically who. One bunch or another usually claims
responsibility. That's how radicals have always been, regardless of
whether
they're Irish, Colombian, skinheads, Italian, SDS, whatever. It's an ego
thing.

3) Indicate to the list of governments that if an attack on us takes
place
anywhere, we will spin the lottery tumbler, pick a town, and level it
completely. Might take a few days, since there's a limit as to how much
weaponry a jet can carry, but we'll be sure to do a good job. It's
important
that the attack begin with seconds of the named ball falling from the
lottery tumbler. No choking one's chicken for 8 months, as your president
did with Iraq.

4) Get our troops out of whatever country these people are whining about
at
the moment. Like Iraq. Indicate to the list of potential offenders that
it
is now the job of their governments and clergy to keep their problems
within
their own borders, where they belong. In other words, "We're leaving, as
you
asked. Now you have nothing to cry and complain about. If you need to
continue complaining, do it in your own rooms, with the doors closed and
don't come out until you're ready to behave properly. If you find mullahs
who still want to preach hatred and destruction, we will gladly help you
'calm' them down, via lobotomy, prison (here), or whatever is necessary.
Drop them off at the nearest embassy and we'll handle it from there.
We'll
be doing the same with Pat Robertson, Dick Cheney, and some of our other
mullahs".

Of course, the world will think this is madness, so we should
demonstrate,
just once, on an unpopulated target.


Sounds like a plan. Of course, when the first bomb was dropped all the
liberals in the world would be screaming about the number of innocent
civilians killed, regardless of how many American lives were lost.

--
John H

I'm a liberal. I wouldn't argue with discipline which was fairly and
accurately explained before the misbehavior occurred. It's common sense,
like raising kids.

Have your children forgiven you for beating them senseless when the ate an
extra cookie?

'Top 5' al Qaeda leader killed...again.
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 14:15:31 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:40:19 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
news:9s64p1dd92k33ljlt2aknmuo59cm0hdk64@4ax. com...

Harrry, you should have added the fact that you can do nothing but
whine about it, 'cause you, like the rest of the liberals, have no
ideas!

John, I'm a liberal, and I have a plan. I explained it to you and NOYB
over
a year ago. It's absolutely perfect. It's derived from commonly
accepted
methods of discliplining children. Have you forgotten already?


Yup. It must not have overly impressed me, or I didn't see it. Tell me
again, please. But please don't adopt Harry's cut and run attitude,
'cause that won't fly.

--
John

1) Indicate to Muslim-dominant countries that we have a lottery tumbler
filled with balls containing the names of every town in their countries
with
a population greater than some number. Let's use 5,000 as a minimum
population. Show a demo of the tumbler on television, being spun by a
scantily clad woman.

2) Any time American property or life is attacked, anywhere, we will
quickly
determine if the attack appears to have been conducted by Islamic
wackos. We
don't need to know specifically who. One bunch or another usually claims
responsibility. That's how radicals have always been, regardless of
whether
they're Irish, Colombian, skinheads, Italian, SDS, whatever. It's an ego
thing.

3) Indicate to the list of governments that if an attack on us takes
place
anywhere, we will spin the lottery tumbler, pick a town, and level it
completely. Might take a few days, since there's a limit as to how much
weaponry a jet can carry, but we'll be sure to do a good job. It's
important
that the attack begin with seconds of the named ball falling from the
lottery tumbler. No choking one's chicken for 8 months, as your
president
did with Iraq.

4) Get our troops out of whatever country these people are whining about
at
the moment. Like Iraq. Indicate to the list of potential offenders that
it
is now the job of their governments and clergy to keep their problems
within
their own borders, where they belong. In other words, "We're leaving, as
you
asked. Now you have nothing to cry and complain about. If you need to
continue complaining, do it in your own rooms, with the doors closed and
don't come out until you're ready to behave properly. If you find
mullahs
who still want to preach hatred and destruction, we will gladly help you
'calm' them down, via lobotomy, prison (here), or whatever is necessary.
Drop them off at the nearest embassy and we'll handle it from there.
We'll
be doing the same with Pat Robertson, Dick Cheney, and some of our other
mullahs".

Of course, the world will think this is madness, so we should
demonstrate,
just once, on an unpopulated target.


Sounds like a plan. Of course, when the first bomb was dropped all the
liberals in the world would be screaming about the number of innocent
civilians killed, regardless of how many American lives were lost.

--
John H

I'm a liberal. I wouldn't argue with discipline which was fairly and
accurately explained before the misbehavior occurred. It's common sense,
like raising kids.

Have your children forgiven you for beating them senseless when the ate an
extra cookie?



Projecting again? My son got slapped exactly once, after slapping his
mother when he was 3. His reasoning: Just wanted to see what would happen.

'Top 5' al Qaeda leader killed...again.
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:40:19 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
m...

Harrry, you should have added the fact that you can do nothing but
whine about it, 'cause you, like the rest of the liberals, have no
ideas!

John, I'm a liberal, and I have a plan. I explained it to you and NOYB
over
a year ago. It's absolutely perfect. It's derived from commonly accepted
methods of discliplining children. Have you forgotten already?


Yup. It must not have overly impressed me, or I didn't see it. Tell me
again, please. But please don't adopt Harry's cut and run attitude,
'cause that won't fly.

--
John

1) Indicate to Muslim-dominant countries that we have a lottery tumbler
filled with balls containing the names of every town in their countries
with a population greater than some number. Let's use 5,000 as a minimum
population. Show a demo of the tumbler on television, being spun by a
scantily clad woman.

2) Any time American property or life is attacked, anywhere, we will
quickly determine if the attack appears to have been conducted by Islamic
wackos. We don't need to know specifically who. One bunch or another
usually claims responsibility. That's how radicals have always been,
regardless of whether they're Irish, Colombian, skinheads, Italian, SDS,
whatever. It's an ego thing.

3) Indicate to the list of governments that if an attack on us takes
place anywhere, we will spin the lottery tumbler, pick a town, and level
it completely. Might take a few days, since there's a limit as to how
much weaponry a jet can carry, but we'll be sure to do a good job. It's
important that the attack begin with seconds of the named ball falling
from the lottery tumbler. No choking one's chicken for 8 months, as your
president did with Iraq.

4) Get our troops out of whatever country these people are whining about
at the moment. Like Iraq. Indicate to the list of potential offenders
that it is now the job of their governments and clergy to keep their
problems within their own borders, where they belong. In other words,
"We're leaving, as you asked. Now you have nothing to cry and complain
about. If you need to continue complaining, do it in your own rooms, with
the doors closed and don't come out until you're ready to behave
properly. If you find mullahs who still want to preach hatred and
destruction, we will gladly help you 'calm' them down, via lobotomy,
prison (here), or whatever is necessary. Drop them off at the nearest
embassy and we'll handle it from there. We'll be doing the same with Pat
Robertson, Dick Cheney, and some of our other mullahs".

Of course, the world will think this is madness, so we should
demonstrate, just once, on an unpopulated target.

Just like Clinton, lobbing cruise missles at an empty terrorist camp. That
will scare them.

How long did it take you develop this idiot plan?


A demo would be necessary, in case they think we might leave anything
standing. Or moving. I don't expect you to understand this, or much of
anything else.

Speaking of stupid, when will you be explaining how Canada hasn't "stood on
its own two feet"?

'Top 5' al Qaeda leader killed...again.
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 03 Dec 2005 22:40:19 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
om...

Harrry, you should have added the fact that you can do nothing but
whine about it, 'cause you, like the rest of the liberals, have no
ideas!

John, I'm a liberal, and I have a plan. I explained it to you and NOYB
over
a year ago. It's absolutely perfect. It's derived from commonly
accepted
methods of discliplining children. Have you forgotten already?


Yup. It must not have overly impressed me, or I didn't see it. Tell me
again, please. But please don't adopt Harry's cut and run attitude,
'cause that won't fly.

--
John

1) Indicate to Muslim-dominant countries that we have a lottery tumbler
filled with balls containing the names of every town in their countries
with a population greater than some number. Let's use 5,000 as a minimum
population. Show a demo of the tumbler on television, being spun by a
scantily clad woman.

2) Any time American property or life is attacked, anywhere, we will
quickly determine if the attack appears to have been conducted by
Islamic wackos. We don't need to know specifically who. One bunch or
another usually claims responsibility. That's how radicals have always
been, regardless of whether they're Irish, Colombian, skinheads,
Italian, SDS, whatever. It's an ego thing.

3) Indicate to the list of governments that if an attack on us takes
place anywhere, we will spin the lottery tumbler, pick a town, and level
it completely. Might take a few days, since there's a limit as to how
much weaponry a jet can carry, but we'll be sure to do a good job. It's
important that the attack begin with seconds of the named ball falling
from the lottery tumbler. No choking one's chicken for 8 months, as your
president did with Iraq.

4) Get our troops out of whatever country these people are whining about
at the moment. Like Iraq. Indicate to the list of potential offenders
that it is now the job of their governments and clergy to keep their
problems within their own borders, where they belong. In other words,
"We're leaving, as you asked. Now you have nothing to cry and complain
about. If you need to continue complaining, do it in your own rooms,
with the doors closed and don't come out until you're ready to behave
properly. If you find mullahs who still want to preach hatred and
destruction, we will gladly help you 'calm' them down, via lobotomy,
prison (here), or whatever is necessary. Drop them off at the nearest
embassy and we'll handle it from there. We'll be doing the same with Pat
Robertson, Dick Cheney, and some of our other mullahs".

Of course, the world will think this is madness, so we should
demonstrate, just once, on an unpopulated target.

Just like Clinton, lobbing cruise missles at an empty terrorist camp.
That will scare them.

How long did it take you develop this idiot plan?


A demo would be necessary, in case they think we might leave anything
standing. Or moving. I don't expect you to understand this, or much of
anything else.

An effective demo would be making it really hurt. Turning an unoccupide
piece of land into rubble is not an effective demonstration of anything.

Speaking of stupid, when will you be explaining how Canada hasn't "stood
on its own two feet"?

Canada's economy is so entertwined with the US economy that you couldn't
stand on your own feet if you didn't have the US as a trading partner.

And, drilling a hole in a 2x4 is not manufacturing a porduct!