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jps wrote:

**** the average American

Ah yes, the Dems mission statement.

--
Skipper

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In article ,
says...

You must be a believer in the economics of liberal stagflation.
All I say is when you spend money, you will have to collect it, not
push the debt forward to next generations, that's pure theft.

Len, it's not theft if you don't admit it. "I didn't know" or, "sheesh,
who would have known it would turn out this way," or, "I forgot" are all
good excuses.

We are borrowing money from China and Japan to finance the war in Iraq,
hurricane rebuilding and our tax cuts to the top 1%.

These people are ****ing insane.

The rich always become richer...it's a law of nature, like death and
taxes.
When there's people thinking like you pulling the strings, you're
probably right. But that doesn't alter the fact that it is a
disappointingly low standard in civilisation, particularly when people
start to treat it like a given certainty.

This is what allows these boneheads to march in lockstep. It's a fait
accompli.

The other thing is that they think they're going to be rich one day too.
In a recent poll, 19% of the American public thought they were in the
top 1% of annual earnings.

The other thing is that they're suckers for the strong daddy
personalities, even when daddy is off his ****ing rocker and driving
towards a cliff.

They'll just sit there merrily thinking dad knows best. They should all
be contestants in the Darwin Awards. It'd be a class action award to a
deserving lot.

jps

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Bert Robbins wrote:

Why don't you paint a picture for us of an "Ugly American."

We, "Ugly Americans", will then respond with a poratriat of an Ugly Canadian
and an Ugly European.


What would you do...take your picture, add a little class clothes, clean
it up, and pass it off?

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" *JimH*" wrote in message
...
That was not the question Jim.

What is *your* impression of what you call an "Ugly American" is?
IMO. The "Ugly American" is the type of person who, when visiting another
country, will not try the local cuisine but will look for the nearest
McDonalds. This person will always rundown the local people as not being
as good as the average American. They will say that "it can be done better
and cheaper in America. They will say that the armed might of America will
solve the world's problems. This Ugly American knows little of the ways of
life in other countries. For example, the Ugly American does not even know
that there are cities in China that are more modern than most in the USA.

These are just a few examples. There are many more.

Jim

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Len wrote:

You can say that but where is the proof?

One of the great things about America today, is that the Looney Left has
been relegated to little more than barking dogs BECAUSE of their inept
leadership in the past. Most of Americas problems can be traced to these
loonies. Korea, Cuba, Iran, forced redistribution of income, and an
assortment of problems brought on by illegal aliens. These lefties are
outraged because their outrageous policies have cause voters to give
them no say whatsoever in the leadership of this country. Look at a
political map of the US. Find the red and blue states. There is the
proof you're seeking, the libs have been swept to the corners. Tends to
keep most of the country clean.

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Skipper

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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:28:56 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:
All I will say here is: Carter had no megalomane, expensive plans like
Reagan.
But I admit I have no extensive knowledge of the Carter economic
performance.

LOL! Do you realize what you just said?

LOL! do you even realize you just admitted you would never admit
anything in any discussion even if you knew it was 100% true...
You would consider it a weakness when you would see the point in your
(any) opponents view. Thats what makes you a real republican. And
thats why we will never reach any sensible result debating.
I admit I have my prejudices and lacks of knowledge. You won't even
think of admitting that. You would still persist in saying it's the
truth even if you know you're wrong.

There is a big analogy to your persistance in considering your own
view points in this thread as facts and when someone says otherwise
you set another standard.
And when they use a innocent word like "act like boring child" to
point out your repetitive way of arguing without adding ANYthing, you
overreact and pretend to be o so offended.
And on top of that YOU call ME a whiner ?

You win, Jim. You're much better than me in manipulating and
namecalling. For my own sake I am glad you are.
My dad was right. "never discuss with ... (a certain type of people I
can't describe here due to your sensitive personality) cause they will
drag you down to their level and beat you with their experience...."

I salute you, Jim.

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"Len" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:28:56 -0500, " *JimH*" wrote:
All I will say here is: Carter had no megalomane, expensive plans like
Reagan.
But I admit I have no extensive knowledge of the Carter economic
performance.

LOL! Do you realize what you just said?


LOL! do you even realize you just admitted you would never admit
anything in any discussion even if you knew it was 100% true...
You would consider it a weakness when you would see the point in your
(any) opponents view. Thats what makes you a real republican. And
thats why we will never reach any sensible result debating.
I admit I have my prejudices and lacks of knowledge. You won't even
think of admitting that. You would still persist in saying it's the
truth even if you know you're wrong.
There is a big analogy to your persistance in considering your own
view points in this thread as facts and when someone says otherwise
you set another standard.
And when they use a innocent word like "act like boring child" to
point out your repetitive way of arguing without adding ANYthing, you
overreact and pretend to be o so offended.
And on top of that YOU call ME a whiner ?


LOL! When unable to defend one's positions in a debate, attack the
opposition.


You win, Jim.

Thanks.


You're much better than me in manipulating and
namecalling.

Please show any name calling I did in this thread. The only name calling I
could find is from you.


I salute you, Jim.

Thank you.

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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:28:56 -0500, *JimH* wrote:


"Len" wrote in message
...
You want facts?
Fact: Reagan inherited an economy from Carter with double digit
inflation,
double digit interest rates and gas shortages.

Is not a fact, but the way you set your period-boundaries and focus on
Carter.
You don't relate to previous presidencies. You just pick what
you can use. Presenting this statement as a fact also denies other
influences like world economy.
Such simplifications usually deminish the value of an argument. It
doesn't deserve the term fact.
All I will say here is: Carter had no megalomane, expensive plans like
Reagan.
But I admit I have no extensive knowledge of the Carter economic
performance.


LOL! Do you realize what you just said?


ROFLOMAO!

Do you realize you're doing EXACTLY what the OP was talking about?
Obsessing about what some US president did 20 years ago, arguing over some
minor detail of the US ecomony from that far back - you do realize that:
1. The rest of the world doesn't CARE who was a better US president
2. The rest of the world doesn't even care who was the better leader of
THEIR country 20 years ago!

We spend much more time arguing about whether or not Todd Bertuzzi should
be playing hockey than whether or not insert name of Federal Cabinet
Minister who overspent his expense acct should be playing politics.

And the same rhetoric, over and over:
"All the World's problems are the fault of {republicans, democrats} and
the World would be a perfect place if {democrats,republicans} ran it"
"Oh, yeah??? What about minor incident from 20 years ago? If
{republicans,democrats} had been in charge, that never would have
happened!"
"Oh, yeah??? Well, just like all {republicans,democrats}, you're a
poopy-pants!"
"No I'm not: you are!"

And so on.
There! now nobody has to post ANY political tripe on this NG any mo
just refer to this post and indicate whether you agree with first or
second element of the set. :)

Lloyd

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"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:28:56 -0500, *JimH* wrote:


"Len" wrote in message
...
You want facts?
Fact: Reagan inherited an economy from Carter with double digit
inflation,
double digit interest rates and gas shortages.

Is not a fact, but the way you set your period-boundaries and focus on
Carter.
You don't relate to previous presidencies. You just pick what
you can use. Presenting this statement as a fact also denies other
influences like world economy.
Such simplifications usually deminish the value of an argument. It
doesn't deserve the term fact.
All I will say here is: Carter had no megalomane, expensive plans like
Reagan.
But I admit I have no extensive knowledge of the Carter economic
performance.


LOL! Do you realize what you just said?


ROFLOMAO!

Do you realize you're doing EXACTLY what the OP was talking about?
Obsessing about what some US president did 20 years ago, arguing over some
minor detail of the US ecomony from that far back - you do realize that:
1. The rest of the world doesn't CARE who was a better US president
2. The rest of the world doesn't even care who was the better leader of
THEIR country 20 years ago!

We spend much more time arguing about whether or not Todd Bertuzzi should
be playing hockey than whether or not insert name of Federal Cabinet
Minister who overspent his expense acct should be playing politics.

And the same rhetoric, over and over:
"All the World's problems are the fault of {republicans, democrats} and
the World would be a perfect place if {democrats,republicans} ran it"
"Oh, yeah??? What about minor incident from 20 years ago? If
{republicans,democrats} had been in charge, that never would have
happened!"
"Oh, yeah??? Well, just like all {republicans,democrats}, you're a
poopy-pants!"
"No I'm not: you are!"

And so on.
There! now nobody has to post ANY political tripe on this NG any mo
just refer to this post and indicate whether you agree with first or
second element of the set. :)

Lloyd


But Mom.........he started it!

Take it up with your socialist buddy Len.

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" *JimH*" wrote in message
. ..

"Lloyd Sumpter" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 13:28:56 -0500, *JimH* wrote:


"Len" wrote in message
...
You want facts?
Fact: Reagan inherited an economy from Carter with double digit
inflation,
double digit interest rates and gas shortages.

Is not a fact, but the way you set your period-boundaries and focus on
Carter.
You don't relate to previous presidencies. You just pick what
you can use. Presenting this statement as a fact also denies other
influences like world economy.
Such simplifications usually deminish the value of an argument. It
doesn't deserve the term fact.
All I will say here is: Carter had no megalomane, expensive plans like
Reagan.
But I admit I have no extensive knowledge of the Carter economic
performance.


LOL! Do you realize what you just said?


ROFLOMAO!

Do you realize you're doing EXACTLY what the OP was talking about?
Obsessing about what some US president did 20 years ago, arguing over
some
minor detail of the US ecomony from that far back - you do realize that:
1. The rest of the world doesn't CARE who was a better US president
2. The rest of the world doesn't even care who was the better leader of
THEIR country 20 years ago!

We spend much more time arguing about whether or not Todd Bertuzzi should
be playing hockey than whether or not insert name of Federal Cabinet
Minister who overspent his expense acct should be playing politics.

And the same rhetoric, over and over:
"All the World's problems are the fault of {republicans, democrats} and
the World would be a perfect place if {democrats,republicans} ran it"
"Oh, yeah??? What about minor incident from 20 years ago? If
{republicans,democrats} had been in charge, that never would have
happened!"
"Oh, yeah??? Well, just like all {republicans,democrats}, you're a
poopy-pants!"
"No I'm not: you are!"

And so on.
There! now nobody has to post ANY political tripe on this NG any mo
just refer to this post and indicate whether you agree with first or
second element of the set. :)

Lloyd


But Mom.........he started it!

Take it up with your socialist buddy Len.


Actually, the correct word would be 'comrade', not buddy.

I thought you were leaving here. Is your new forum a flop already Lloyd?