Dene (nospam) wrote:
"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:39:25 -0700, "Dene" dene@(nospam) ipns.com
wrote:

Thinking of offering 20k on this one. Any non-political advice?? ;

Well.... first, I have to admit that I don't know much about this
boat.... I've never seen one. I am a bit leery, however, since this
particular boat was built by Brunswick and, well, at that time they
certainly weren't into quality construction and materials. My
suggestion is to check www.nada.com . They seem to suggest $12,580 for
low retail and 15,160 for average retail. That is with no options, so
you can bump up accordingly with respect to those installed options
you value. Another factor affecting the value is that I plugged in a
coastal NC zip code... your local zip will likely affect the price.

Ask people at your local marina, too. Oh, PS..... if that engine is
not fresh water cooled and it has been in salt water for 10 years.....
you might have potential rust problems....

Prices are 15% higher in Portland Oregon due to fresh water conditions.
NADA priced it a 20k with all the goodies, which is what we'll offer. My
wife saw it today and gave the "wow" reaction. The boat has been very well
cared for. Excellent design all through out....smart use of space.
Reminded me a lot of the Maxum. Being six foot, I really appreciated that I
could walk around in the cabin.

BTW....it does have fresh water cooling. Needs GPS and bottom
paint....that's it. Any suggestions on GPS?

Re. quality. Brokers put it in the middle between Sea Ray and Bayliner.
Along the lines of a Monterrey.

Doesn't Brunswick own Sea Ray?

-Greg


Brunswick owns a lot of trademarks. Including Sea Ray, Hatteras, Boston
Whaler, Bayliner, Meridian, etc........ You can't just make a blanket
statement about "Brunswick" quality.

No heat? You will want to add at least a Red Dot heater unless you plan
to boat strictly in the summer months.

If you want to pay $20k, start off a bit less. $20k is maybe OK for
that boat if it's just clean as a whistle, but otherwise it might be a
tad on the high side. Expect to get "bumped" with a counter not matter
what you offer....(If you went in at $22k, you'd probably get countered
at $22.5k). Don't insult the seller by getting all stupid, but just as
he has left some "room" in his price to come down a bit, it's good
practice to leave just a little room in your offer to come up.

The good news here is that you can't ve very far off the market on a
boat in that price range. If you miss the market by 20%, you still
haven't overspent by any really important amount of
money......(certainly not when the total cost of owning and enjoying a
boat is considered). It's the guy who's spending
$800k who will be taking a serious beating if he miscalculates by that
same 20%.