Gene Kearns wrote:
On 25 Oct 2005 21:29:15 -0700, wrote:



Brunswick owns a lot of trademarks. Including Sea Ray, Hatteras, Boston
Whaler, Bayliner, Meridian, etc........ You can't just make a blanket
statement about "Brunswick" quality.


Nice twist. What I said was, "since this particular boat was built by
Brunswick and, well, at that time [1996] they certainly weren't into
quality construction and materials."

In 1996, Brunswick was noted for making price point boats... not
quality boats. They didn't own Hatteras or Boston Whaler (which,
according to their president, were bought to fill in the "white
space") and they hadn't invented the term "Meridian" to distance
themselves from the Bayliner (quality) name in the larger boats.

White space, historically for Brunswick, has been quality.

Brunswick has acquired an amazingly extensive list of boating brand
names in their attempt to be everything to everyone; vertical
marketing gone crazy. Their name doesn't imply *anything* specific in
2005.... other than, perhaps, really, really big company.

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Gene:

1) It's a $20k boat. "Quality" has to be evaluated within context of
what the boat was designed to do. It's no blue water battle wagon, nor
is any other boat for sale at that kind of money- regardless of mfgr.

2) I don't know anything specifically about Starcraft. It may be a
company that
Brunswick bought out somewhere along the line top pick up the mfg
plant. (i.e. Fiberform). Do you know anything specific about Starcraft?
If not, I maintain it's something of a stretch to imply that the
quality is automatically substandard because it was built in 1996 by a
company that was owned by Brunswick.

3) Brunswick bought Sea Ray in 1986. If the OP were buying a Sea Ray,
would you relegate it to substandard status because it was a Brunswick
product, or would a Sea Ray of that age in good condition possibly be a
pretty smart buy at $20k? Not to say that Starcraft is/was a Sea
Ray......but why just assume it was no better than the Bayliners of 10
years ago, or worse?