John H wrote:

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 12:46:02 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


John H wrote:


On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:04:30 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


Never mind all that. Based upon your recommendation (and reading),I just
ordered a D70 from Hasidic Camera Supply


Never heard of Hasidic, but hope you get everything you're supposed to get. I
bought mine at Penn Camera, locally. Probably didn't get the best deal around,
but the folks are sure helpful. Did you get the kit or just the body?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!



Ahh. Hasidic Camera Supply is an inside joke, I guess. Virtually all the
NYC discount photo stores, along with virtually all the diamond
merchants, are owned and operated by Hasids. Most are very, very
trustworthy people. I bought my wife's diamond on a "telephone"
handshake up there, and when I had it appraised here, it turned out to
be even better than represented.

I got the kit. The lens interests me, because 70 x 1.5 is 105 mm, and
that is my ideal portrait focal length.

"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:04:30 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
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Let's try this one last time. If you don't answer the question in a
fashion
judged to be sensible by me and perhaps DSK, we'll all interpret it to
mean
that you are finally admitting that you're wrong. Ready?

Please point out 10 examples of "Grecian" being used in the last 100
years
to describe Greeks. Poetry is not an option, nor are examples where
"Grecian" was used as an affectation. And, your president's example is
not
allowed in the list of 10. The correct examples would be news sources,
especially if one or more of them involved actual persons of Greek origin
discussing themselves or their culture.


Is that the new 'pass-fail' criteria now? If you and/or DSK don't approve,
then
no one in the group approves? I don't remember subscribing to that
philosophy!

Read it again, John. This exercise is NOT based on opinions. It is based on
simple numbers. NOYB will not find 10 examples of modern usage of the word
"Grecian". If somehow he does, we only need to count them, not judge them.

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"****tard" wrote in message
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basskisser wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message news:rdidnRjINsat_FvdRVn-


Geez, I couldn't imagine how awful it would be to live in
bumfoch-Georgia
and have to drive nearly 70 miles just to use your boat in a *lake*.
Ich.
Who the hell would even think about living in such a place...besides
in-breeders?


Again, proving yourself a dolt. Atlanta is a great place to live. Ever
wonder why it is such a metropolis? World class theater, world class
restaurants, great music scene, I can be in the mountains in one hour,
at the beach in 3.5. Can you?
[snip remaining civic boosterism]

A place NEVER is "world class" just because the local
yokels are saying it is. A place doesn't become world
class until people OUTSIDE the area are saying it.

NO ONE outside Atlanta is calling it a "world class"
anything, except maybe a world class ********.

Geez, basskisser, your buddy "****tard" doesn't seem to agree with your
assessment of Atlanta.

snicker No doubt asslicker thinks going to 'cheetah's' is the equivalent
of seeing "cats" and fine dining is eating at "The Varsity"

"John H" wrote in message
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On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 16:04:30 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

Let's try this one last time. If you don't answer the question in a
fashion
judged to be sensible by me and perhaps DSK, we'll all interpret it to
mean
that you are finally admitting that you're wrong. Ready?

Please point out 10 examples of "Grecian" being used in the last 100
years
to describe Greeks. Poetry is not an option, nor are examples where
"Grecian" was used as an affectation. And, your president's example is
not
allowed in the list of 10. The correct examples would be news sources,
especially if one or more of them involved actual persons of Greek origin
discussing themselves or their culture.


Is that the new 'pass-fail' criteria now? If you and/or DSK don't approve,
then
no one in the group approves? I don't remember subscribing to that
philosophy!

Where do b'asskisser, ****turd, and Harry fit into this scheme? Don't one
of
them have to judge the sensibility also?

News sources? Since when do 'news sources" make something credible?????



John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"DSK" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:
Let's try this one last time. If you don't answer the question in a
fashion
judged to be sensible by me and perhaps DSK, we'll all interpret it to
mean
that you are finally admitting that you're wrong. Ready?

Please don't drag me into this any further. I can't believe that NOBBY
and some of his whacko pals (or are they all sock puppets?) are actually
stupid enough to think the word "Grecian" can be used to denote people
in/from Greece; and furthermore they're stupid enough to spend alot of
time trying to prove it.

The question is, why are you bothering to argue with them? You need to
get out more, Doug!

Regards
Doug King


1) They don't believe it, Doug. It's a game NOYB plays. JohnH used to, but
he seems to have lost his touch lately.

and...

B) I'm stuck in the office, dealing with business, mortgage people, home
inspectors, the lawyer, the insurance agent, and to top it all off, the
$)!#$ company that shipped my new SeaSense trailer lights to the wrong $)!#$
address. On the spectrum of annoyances, dealing with NOYB is meaningless. It
certainly requires very little intellectual effort!

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
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Asians *are* orientals you idiot.




Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next few Asians

you

meet and see sort of reaction you get?

"With my right foot, I will kick your face. With my left, I will kick

your

nose. With my fingers, I will poke your eyes out. Take a good look at
my
face. I'm an Oriental."

Jackie Chan--"They Still Call Me Bruce" (1987)




Remember what I told you earlier about my having about 40 years more
education than you? You've just provided a perfect example of why I
said
that. You do NOT get an accurate view of the world from movies.



Oh, come on...you can't be intimating that Nobby should read serious
books...


I don't think "They Still Call Me Bruce" was offered in written format.
I'll be sure to check next time I'm at my local library.




You know, despite your absolute ignorance, social ineptitude, bad
manners and political incorrectness,



I'd still go fishing with you

I leave all deep thought at the dock...so we'd probably get along just fine.


possibly let you examine my toofs.

And I'd probably agree to be interviewed (off the record of course) by you
for one of your trade magazine articles. Your readers would benefit from my
excellent opinion as to why dentists shouldn't be unionized...and why your
readers shouldn't be either.



Even though you really are an asshole.

I'm surprised you picked up on that over the internet. For most people, it
takes several face-to-face meeting with me before they ever come to that
realization.

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
Let's try this one last time. If you don't answer the question in a
fashion
judged to be sensible by me and perhaps DSK, we'll all interpret it to
mean
that you are finally admitting that you're wrong. Ready?

Please don't drag me into this any further. I can't believe that NOBBY
and some of his whacko pals (or are they all sock puppets?) are actually
stupid enough to think the word "Grecian" can be used to denote people
in/from Greece

I never said that. The originator of the whole argument (****tard) tried
to
say that the word "grecian" is only an adjective and never a noun...even
though every dictionary lists it as both. Initially, Doug was arguing the
same thing. When shown that they were wrong, Doug had twisted the topic
of
debate to imply that I was arguing that people in modern times call Greek
people "Grecians".

That's simply not the argument that I was making.



; and furthermore they're stupid enough to spend alot of
time trying to prove it.

The question is, why are you bothering to argue with them? You need to
get out more, Doug!


Hehehe. At least we agree on this one.



Ah ha! Then why are YOU following ME around like a lost dog?

NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

NOYB wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Doug Kanter wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
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Asians *are* orientals you idiot.




Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next few Asians

you


meet and see sort of reaction you get?

"With my right foot, I will kick your face. With my left, I will kick

your


nose. With my fingers, I will poke your eyes out. Take a good look at

my

face. I'm an Oriental."

Jackie Chan--"They Still Call Me Bruce" (1987)




Remember what I told you earlier about my having about 40 years more
education than you? You've just provided a perfect example of why I

said

that. You do NOT get an accurate view of the world from movies.



Oh, come on...you can't be intimating that Nobby should read serious
books...


I don't think "They Still Call Me Bruce" was offered in written format.
I'll be sure to check next time I'm at my local library.




You know, despite your absolute ignorance, social ineptitude, bad
manners and political incorrectness,




I'd still go fishing with you


I leave all deep thought at the dock...so we'd probably get along just fine.



possibly let you examine my toofs.


And I'd probably agree to be interviewed (off the record of course) by you
for one of your trade magazine articles. Your readers would benefit from my
excellent opinion as to why dentists shouldn't be unionized...and why your
readers shouldn't be either.




Even though you really are an asshole.


I'm surprised you picked up on that over the internet. For most people, it
takes several face-to-face meeting with me before they ever come to that
realization.


I'm nothing if not quick.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
Let's try this one last time. If you don't answer the question in a
fashion
judged to be sensible by me and perhaps DSK, we'll all interpret it
to
mean
that you are finally admitting that you're wrong. Ready?

Please don't drag me into this any further. I can't believe that NOBBY
and some of his whacko pals (or are they all sock puppets?) are
actually
stupid enough to think the word "Grecian" can be used to denote people
in/from Greece

I never said that. The originator of the whole argument (****tard)
tried
to
say that the word "grecian" is only an adjective and never a noun...even
though every dictionary lists it as both. Initially, Doug was arguing
the
same thing. When shown that they were wrong, Doug had twisted the topic
of
debate to imply that I was arguing that people in modern times call
Greek
people "Grecians".

That's simply not the argument that I was making.



; and furthermore they're stupid enough to spend alot of
time trying to prove it.

The question is, why are you bothering to argue with them? You need to
get out more, Doug!


Hehehe. At least we agree on this one.



Ah ha! Then why are YOU following ME around like a lost dog?


Huh? You're the one posting in *my* thread.

NOYB wrote:

"****tard" wrote in message
ink.net...

NOYB wrote:


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"****tard" wrote in message news:w5pxc.7005




I imagine these same ****wits who are insisting
"Grecian" is correct also still want to call Asians
"Orientals".

Asians *are* orientals you idiot.




Why don't you try running the term "Oriental" by the next few Asians you
meet and see sort of reaction you get?



Here's a neat link, Doug. The term "Oriental" rates a big, fat ZERO on

the

"disparagement scale" of the "Offensiveness Quotient".

Look at the definition of "oriental" in ANY on-line
dictionary (we know you don't own a printed one). The
definition meaning "Asian person" is ALWAYS indicated
as offensive. Always.


And "Grecian" is always indicated as an adjective *OR* a *NOUN*.

No, it isn't.