On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 06:30:41 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:

John H wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:21:25 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"Yo Ho" wrote in message
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Why would I want to email you? Doesn't make any sense at all.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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Yo Ho wrote:

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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I've not posted your name, address, phone number, or SSN, either.


Yes, but if you knew it I am sure you would have. I know you phone
numbers, but have keep them off the internet..

If you knew what I know about you, you'd have a heart attack, fella.
It's only my good nature...



More proof that Harry Krause is indeed an internet stalker. Chuck Gould
proved it today to everyone by finding then posting my address and phone
number here.

Why the need to collect personal data on folks here Krause? Do you get your
jollies from it?



Now Krause is posting his hate-mail on a Chesapeake Bay fishing forum. Getting
caught constantly has got to be a bitch!


You're lying again, Herring. No hate mail was posted there by me.
Let's see your proof.

Here's what I posted...you consider this "hate" mail?

"I see that in addition to croakers, I also caught a Herring."

"Hang tough, John...hire a good guide and one day you, too, will catch
that fish of your dreams."

"Yer good buddy, HK. "


That's it. Real hateful, eh?

Lying? Lying, Harry? *You* are actually calling someone a 'liar'?

I could have used the phrase 'smart assed', I guess. But 'hate-mail' seemed to
fit the bill just fine. If you consider your post having been made in the spirit
of friendship that normally exists on tidalfish, then you should talk to your
wife. She's the one you said was studying to get another PhD, remember?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:53:11 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:


*JimH* wrote:

wrote in message
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But you have screwed yourself, JimH. Don't you realize that? The link
now goes to the ad as you claim to have changed it on June 29. How does
that establish your lie that the ad from 2003 contained your address
and phone number in the comments section. You, I, and everybody else
who saw that ad from 2003 know that it did not.


I will not apologize for doing something that I did not do.

Will you apologize for piling lie, upon lie, upon lie, upon lie?



Yes. I got caught up in this and I thought I had no other way out. I made
a mistake accusing you , although at the time I did think the ad contained
that information. I dug myself deeper and deeper and made you the
scapegoat.

I am ashamed of what I did and have lost all credibility here for doing it.
I should have known better after I discovered I was initially wrong.

I apologize Chuck. I have no excuse.



Still think my house looks like a travel trailer, Hertvik?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...at-Fish/yo.jpg


At least he had the balls to apologize, Harry.


Nice that he did...but it's disturbing how long it took.....
Look what he put Chuck through for a couple of days. You have to wonder
at exactly what point did he realize he was wrong and how many accusing
posts did he make knowing he was wrong.

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
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But you have screwed yourself, JimH. Don't you realize that? The link
now goes to the ad as you claim to have changed it on June 29. How does
that establish your lie that the ad from 2003 contained your address
and phone number in the comments section. You, I, and everybody else
who saw that ad from 2003 know that it did not.

I will not apologize for doing something that I did not do.

Will you apologize for piling lie, upon lie, upon lie, upon lie?


Yes. I got caught up in this and I thought I had no other way out. I made
a mistake accusing you , although at the time I did think the ad contained
that information. I dug myself deeper and deeper and made you the
scapegoat.

I am ashamed of what I did and have lost all credibility here for doing it.
I should have known better after I discovered I was initially wrong.

I apologize Chuck. I have no excuse.


Dang.

What to say?

Apology accepted, of course.

I must also shoulder some of the blame for this last bout of acrimony.
I responded badly (to something I felt may have been an inappropriate
response to the second post in this thread) when I introduced a link
that I suspected you would find at least slightly discomforting. Had I
known that it would have proven almost mortifying, rather than just a
bit of wicked humor at your own, self-inflicted expense, I would hope
that I might have reconsidered at the time. So I must apologize as well
for lighting this fire and not standing down early on when it became
apparent the discussion was unlikely to be resolved in a positive
manner.

As wew both know, this thing took on a life of its own.

I'm willing to bury the (very bloody) hatchet and just move on. That
will, of course, require some mutual effort but rec.boats would be a
better NG without JimH and Gould gunning for one another all the time.

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 20:21:01 GMT, Don White wrote:

John H wrote:
On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 12:53:11 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:


*JimH* wrote:

wrote in message
legroups.com...



But you have screwed yourself, JimH. Don't you realize that? The link
now goes to the ad as you claim to have changed it on June 29. How does
that establish your lie that the ad from 2003 contained your address
and phone number in the comments section. You, I, and everybody else
who saw that ad from 2003 know that it did not.


I will not apologize for doing something that I did not do.

Will you apologize for piling lie, upon lie, upon lie, upon lie?



Yes. I got caught up in this and I thought I had no other way out. I made
a mistake accusing you , although at the time I did think the ad contained
that information. I dug myself deeper and deeper and made you the
scapegoat.

I am ashamed of what I did and have lost all credibility here for doing it.
I should have known better after I discovered I was initially wrong.

I apologize Chuck. I have no excuse.



Still think my house looks like a travel trailer, Hertvik?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...at-Fish/yo.jpg


At least he had the balls to apologize, Harry.


Nice that he did...but it's disturbing how long it took.....
Look what he put Chuck through for a couple of days. You have to wonder
at exactly what point did he realize he was wrong and how many accusing
posts did he make knowing he was wrong.

Knowing Chuck as little as I do, Don, I doubt if he went through a whole lot of
stressful turmoil. He'll survive!

What JimH did was wrong. He admitted it and apologized for it.

Your good buddy, Harry, has spent hours making accusing, name-calling, vicious
posts. Have you ever said a word to him about it? Chuck has.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

wrote in message
ups.com...


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...


But you have screwed yourself, JimH. Don't you realize that? The link
now goes to the ad as you claim to have changed it on June 29. How does
that establish your lie that the ad from 2003 contained your address
and phone number in the comments section. You, I, and everybody else
who saw that ad from 2003 know that it did not.

I will not apologize for doing something that I did not do.

Will you apologize for piling lie, upon lie, upon lie, upon lie?


Yes. I got caught up in this and I thought I had no other way out. I
made
a mistake accusing you , although at the time I did think the ad
contained
that information. I dug myself deeper and deeper and made you the
scapegoat.

I am ashamed of what I did and have lost all credibility here for doing
it.
I should have known better after I discovered I was initially wrong.

I apologize Chuck. I have no excuse.


Dang.

What to say?

Apology accepted, of course.

I must also shoulder some of the blame for this last bout of acrimony.
I responded badly (to something I felt may have been an inappropriate
response to the second post in this thread) when I introduced a link
that I suspected you would find at least slightly discomforting. Had I
known that it would have proven almost mortifying, rather than just a
bit of wicked humor at your own, self-inflicted expense, I would hope
that I might have reconsidered at the time. So I must apologize as well
for lighting this fire and not standing down early on when it became
apparent the discussion was unlikely to be resolved in a positive
manner.

As wew both know, this thing took on a life of its own.

I'm willing to bury the (very bloody) hatchet and just move on. That
will, of course, require some mutual effort but rec.boats would be a
better NG without JimH and Gould gunning for one another all the time.


Thank you Chuck. You are indeed a real gentleman.

And the blame falls on me, not you.

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...


But you have screwed yourself, JimH. Don't you realize that? The link
now goes to the ad as you claim to have changed it on June 29. How does
that establish your lie that the ad from 2003 contained your address
and phone number in the comments section. You, I, and everybody else
who saw that ad from 2003 know that it did not.

I will not apologize for doing something that I did not do.

Will you apologize for piling lie, upon lie, upon lie, upon lie?


Yes. I got caught up in this and I thought I had no other way out. I made
a mistake accusing you , although at the time I did think the ad contained
that information. I dug myself deeper and deeper and made you the
scapegoat.

I am ashamed of what I did and have lost all credibility here for doing it.
I should have known better after I discovered I was initially wrong.

I apologize Chuck. I have no excuse.

Good for you. At least you now know that you are an habitual liar. I
hope you get help. You've gone over the edge once again, or else just
plain lied about your vow to quit lying, and childish insulting in the
newsgroup.

Good for you. At least you now know that you are an habitual liar. I
hope you get help. You've gone over the edge once again, or else just
plain lied about your vow to quit lying, and childish insulting in the
newsgroup.


Say Bass- why not consider this a sort of "watershed" moment and take
advantage of the fact to forget the past and put away the anger?

JimH is one of only a handful of people who have shown the courage to
apologize
in this public forum. I think there's plenty of blame on both sides of
all these running NG flame wars, with the situation between JimH and I
a classic example (for which we have both expressed our regrets). It's
hard to say how mnay hours, days, weeks, or months this current "cease
fire" will last- but I hope not to be the one to break it and I
wouldn't be surprised if JimH doesn't feel about the same way.

There are no virgins in this whorehouse of flame. As John Lennon would
say,
why not "give peace a chance"? :-)

Have a happy 4th.

"Yo Ho" wrote in message
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Harry,
Does your wife know you were so embarrassed about her being an on staff
social worker for the Bricklayers Union, you had to fabricate a story
about
her being a MD with a PHD?

Why can't you accept her just the way she is?

And why does he keep stalking JimH? What need is there to know what one
does for a living?




"HarryKrause" wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:


HErt and several others here are embarrassed about what they do for a
living, and won't tell us.


Why should I be embarrassed about what I do for a living? It has
provided me with a great income and respect in my field.


What do you do for a living, Hertvik?


And why should I tell you what I do? You and Chuck Gould are proven
internet stalkers and the more you know about someone the more you use
it
against them.


How is disclosing what you do for a living going to reveal any personal
information about you? I mean, let's say you sold men's suits, an
honorable way to make a living. Why would your saying you are a clothier
tell us anything personal about you?

My guess is that you're just embarrassed by what you do. Or did.


How's the fishing lately Krause?

OK. That's all it ever is in Chesapeake Bay.



I see John caught you in another big lie,
this time about a fishing trip you recently reported on (see the thread
"25 fish later"). Using a sock puppet to support your lie and getting
caught. Sort of like when you did the same think with your imaginary
custom made 36 foot lobster boat.


A sock puppet? I used my alternate email address, to leave Herring a
clue.
The alternate email address I use here. If I were operating sub rosa, I
would have used a new email address. D'oh.

I trolled for a Herring fish and I caught one on the first sweep.

By the way, was your house designed by a committee? What is with that
garage treatment and the silly little gazebo on the other end?








--
If it is Bad for Bush,
It is Good for the United States.

"*JimH*" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I will ask again. And don't spin the answer this time but answer it
directly.

Exactly what personal comments did I make about you Chuck?


I don't care to repeat them, or to spend the next several weeks looking
up your thousands of personal remarks and reposting them.

Sure. But it is easy to claim that I have made personal attacks on you.



Go right ahead and claim you have never made any personal remarks, that
will be just as credible as everything else you "contribute" here.

I never said I *never* did. Your claim was supposedly about recent
personal attacks I made (specific to your fluff review and SeaRay threads.

You have yet to produce any evidence of recent personal attacks on you by
me.

So once again I will ask:

Exactly what personal comments/attacks did I make about you Chuck?


How
would one sit on that tiny little motorbike with such great big 'nads?


Easy. I had almost as much fun using it as my son did.

Now why the personal insult to me Chuck? I thought this was just the
thing you were whining to me about.


Nothing. I figured as much Chuckie.

*JimH* wrote:
"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...



I will ask again. And don't spin the answer this time but answer it
directly.

Exactly what personal comments did I make about you Chuck?


I don't care to repeat them, or to spend the next several weeks looking
up your thousands of personal remarks and reposting them.

Sure. But it is easy to claim that I have made personal attacks on you.



Go right ahead and claim you have never made any personal remarks, that
will be just as credible as everything else you "contribute" here.

I never said I *never* did. Your claim was supposedly about recent
personal attacks I made (specific to your fluff review and SeaRay threads.

You have yet to produce any evidence of recent personal attacks on you by
me.

So once again I will ask:

Exactly what personal comments/attacks did I make about you Chuck?


How
would one sit on that tiny little motorbike with such great big 'nads?


Easy. I had almost as much fun using it as my son did.

Now why the personal insult to me Chuck? I thought this was just the
thing you were whining to me about.


Nothing. I figured as much Chuckie.

What were you expecting, Jimbo?

Allow me to jog your selective memory:

This is the thread where you demanded that I apologize for revealing
your phone number and home address. Remember?

This is the thread where, when you realized the link to the ad did
*not* reveal your phone number and home address you then claimed that
you had somehow "edited" the ad between the time I had posted the link
and the following day. Remember?

This is the thread where, when nobody- not even your usually devoted
sidekicks- stepped forward to confirm that the ad had ever contained
your home address and phone number and others said that when they
followed the link they did *not* see the phone number and address that
you claimed had been revealed, you finally apologized for lying about
the supposed revelation of your phone number (as well as the
non-existant editing) and explained to one and all that you only did so
because you felt "cornered" by your original false (or erroneous)
charge and couldn't think of an alternative. Remember?

I am really surprised that you would refresh this thread. Do you wear a
"kick me" sign when you visit a biker bar? Do they even have biker bars
for mopeds?