or break deck chocks loose --
when the winds pick up and the waves start.


So we could argue that either dragging the anchor and hitting the
rocks or breaking deck chocks is better.

no, you anchor knowing full well that you REQUIRE *substantial* shock absorbing
capability in your rode should the wind and waves pipe up. check mil specs if
you wish.

NObody chains a boat to a dock. dumb, dumb, dumb. same as chaining your boat
to a rock on the bottom.

just for kicks, ask yourself what happens to a boat that is *chained* to a
dock.

Eventually the repo man shows up and tows it away? :-)

Seriously, If you use a long enough, and heavy enough chain here's what will
happen..............

The wind or current might set the boat off the dock, beginning a process that
will attempt to pull the chain into a horizontal position between the dock and
the boat. The unsupported weight in the middle of the chain is exerting equal
lateral force on the boat and the dock. The dock isn't going anyhwhere (hope
hope hope) so something has to give in response to that force. What gives, is
before the limit of the chain is reached the increasing weight of the belly in
the chain either stabilizes the set off of the boat or causes it to drift back
toward the fixed end at the dock.

recklessly endangering human lives by driving a car drunk is a criminal
offense. does that mean that recklessly endangering human lives by anchoring
with a all chain rode you KNOW will pull loose and/or break loose the deck
chocks in strong winds and waves is a criminal offense as well?

Yup.


The situation you describe will not happen if the anchor and rode are suitable
for conditions, if there is adequate scope for depth and conditions, and so
forth.

That's a long way from *knowing* the anchor is going to pull out or bust up the
boat.

just for kicks, ask yourself what happens to a boat that is *chained* to a
dock.


Gould 0738 wrote:
Eventually the repo man shows up and tows it away? :-)

And you wouldn't have to worry about chafe. Of course, the marina might
take a dim view of your dockchain sawing through their pilings, but hey,
you're paying them right?

DSK

admit it, dude/ettes, you require an all chain rode on your boats because you
are too weak to lift a 35# anchor and electric windlasses don't work so well
with nylon.

A windlass wouldn't work very well on your sailboard, so that might explain why
you are unaware that with proper technique nylon rope hauls very nicely indeed
with a windlass. Usually, two or three turns around the drum is sufficient. An
extra wrap or so will do the trick if it is not.

One does not (should not) use the windlass to break the anchor free.

With proper technique, the nylon will haul
without any problems at all.

Don't have to, dipsquat .... been there done that.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:
check it out, dum-dum.


"keep their engines running" ...ROFLMAO

otn

Once again .... NO THEY DON'T.

Now, so you understand .... IF it's a steam ship, after anchoring, they
will "spin" the turbines for a while and then put them on the "jacking"
gear to cool them, unless it's to be a short anchoring (in which case
they'll "spin" them to keep them warm). Naturally the boilers remain on
line since they are used for Hotel services.
Diesel electric: Depending on the setup, if the generators for the
engine are exclusive to the main propulsion, they will be secured.(same
with GT)
Straight GT: Shut down.
Direct drive diesel: (majority of larger ships) SHUT DOWN, PERIOD.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:
But you haven't seemed to grasp the fact that navy
ships and commercial ships do not "leave their engines running" while in
port.


but they do while "at anchor". check it out.

(JAXAshby) wrote in message ...
My boat has all chain rode

dummy, you ARE going to drag in a storm.

Prove it.

However I like it.

no doubt. it is easier to raise using an electric winch.

So friggin what. Am I supposed to "be a man" and pull the damned
thing up with my back everytime? If that's what you do, take a look
in the mirror to see a dummy.

Requires less scope ...

only in lite winds and no waves.

You make this **** up, don't you?

...nad hasn't broke
loose since I put I more appropriate anchor on it.

haven't been in a storm yet, either. then your anchor is coming loose from the
bottom or your deck chocks are coming loose from your deck.

When was the last time you had you Hobie Cat anchored in a storm?
That's what I thought.

Never talk to jax like he is a man, he is Spincter boy, has nothing nice to say
that I have ever seen.

R you forgetting scope?