I don't have the experience to say
what they do.

DSK

The only engine running is the gen set. Big gen set, but just a gen set.


of course. ships at anchor sit there waiting and waiting and waiting for a
storm to hit, their propulsion system flat dead and needing four hours to bring
up to usable speed.

boy, a bunch of worthless sailors you guys are. such short sticks you are
reduced to claiming that *your* boats ARE JUST LIKE steel freighters hundreds
of feet long, burning bunker oil, fully manned 24/7/365 with several millions
of dollars of electronics, always ready to set to sea at the first sign of bad
weather approaching.

admit it, dude/ettes, you require an all chain rode on your boats because you
are too weak to lift a 35# anchor and electric windlasses don't work so well
with nylon.

geesh, putting yourself and your boat in danger just because you are a bunch of
old farts too weak to sail anymore.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message

Well, you should inform the Navy and the cruise lines.

When jax goes off his meds, he goes trolling.

You could have said, "All chain rode is inferior because..............." and
let it go at that. Nope. Didn't happen. Instead, anybody who disagrees with
your opinion is either a "weak old man" or "chicken of the sea."

they are. in fact, I believe ANYone who anchors on all chain (because they are
too weak and/or lazy) and who subsequently drags his boat in a storm down on
another boat injurying someone and/or doing damage to the shoreline downwind is
guilty of criminal behavior. It is JUST LIKE driving drunk. They knew better,
but didn't care.

hey squat-for-brains YOU were the one claiming that all-chain rode is
appropriate for a sailboat because cruiseships use all chain.

using all chain on a sailboat is as criminal as driving a car drunk. you know
better but you are just too lazy to do better.

A ship's engines are not running when at anchor, and I believe YOU
were the dipsquat that brought "ships" into the mix with your stupid,
uneducated statement that they keep their engines running.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:
so, *why* are you comparing a ship manned 24/7, with engines running, to a
recreational vessel?

again, all chain rode is for old men, and those afraid of the water.


G I think you are trying to say ... they anchor in open "roads" with
a 10# Danforth on three thousand feet of dog "leash" chain.
Actually, you don't see too many of the old "Baldt" stockless anchors on
ships anymore. Generally what you now see is something which looks
similar to a heavy "Danforth".
The average number of "shots" carried, varies but 11 is a good average.
(Jax heads for google to find out the length of a shot).
G Later, dipsquat.
otn

JAXAshby wrote:

nah, they anchor in open rodes with a 10# Danforth on three thousand feet

of

dog leach chain.

way to go, dum-dum.



ROFL Trying to start another argument on a subject you know little or
nothing about, I see. ...... "keep their engines running" ...ROFLMAO

otn

skyscrapers are made of steel beams and glass panels. does THAT mean a one car
garage at home should be as well?

No.

recklessly endangering human lives by driving a car drunk is a criminal
offense. does that mean that recklessly endangering human lives by anchoring
with a all chain rode you KNOW will pull loose and/or break loose the deck
chocks in strong winds and waves is a criminal offense as well?

Yup.

me, and 99.99876% of the world's population.


........are not aware of the manner in which
military and commercial ships lay at anchor.

All chain rode would be an overkill for your Sunfsh, however. You are
certainly
correct
about that.

JAXAshby wrote:
using all chain on a sailboat is as criminal as driving a car drunk.

A classic Jaxism. Thanks! We need more humor in this newsgroup.

DSK

That is why (i.e. I am weak and old) I'm considering an all chain rode.... as
should all
boaters with the capability of a windlass and limited locker space...

are you willing to go to jail for injurying someone and/or damaging shoreline
when your boat anchor breaks loose and/or you tear your deck chocks loose due
to strong winds and waves?

dude, you use the same justification for you criminal behavior anchoring as did
drunk drivers 20 years ago.

Some chain is stronger than some...... uh, (sic) rope....

logging chain IS stronger than window sash cord, but that is not relevant to
this discussion.

Fact is, all chain WILL bust out an anchor --

Illogical.


only to the abbizmally ignorant. FULLY understood, however, by the oil rig
crowd and anyone else with even a smattering of understanding.

just for kicks, ask yourself what happens to a boat that is *chained* to a
dock.