When would you board someone else's boat??
 

It does appear that we see it differently, but that should not surprise
either on of us. Neither the dog or the kids belong on the other person's
property. The correct course of action is to call the dog pound or the
police if the dog or kids are coming onto your property.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Interesting logic. I see it thusly: Two objects are capable of causing
harm
or damage: A dog, and a pool. If you choose to allow the dog to roam, then
you will probably not care if a kid falls into your pool.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:nYvjc.50666$w96.4558920@attbi_s54...
Doug,
It is the law that the owner of a pool should put a fence around his
pool.
But, if we followed your logic concerning trespassing, it would be the
pool
owners right to shot any of the kids who came onto his property, The
parents of the kids did a poor job of teaching his children not to
violate
the neighbor and it will teach the parents and other kids in the
neighborhood not to step on other peoples property.



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Dave Hall wrote:
... I guess in his mind, he should not have to be
"burdened" with the chore of constructing a fence to keep the
unwanted
out of his garden. He feels that it's everyone else's
responsibility
to keep them out for him.

Still refusing to take responsibility for your actions, eh Dave?
Well
a
leapord never changes his spots.

It *is* the responsibility of every pet owner to keep his pet out of
other peoples' yards.

Same as it *is* the responsibility of every boater to operate his
vessel
safely, and it *is* the responsibility of every boater to not create
a
large wake in places where it isn't wanted. Funny how you cannot
grasp
the simple principles of responsibility & accountability.

DSK


It's called "selective personal responsibility". You only need to be
responsible about your dog when it's sunny and you don't mind stepping
outside to hook it onto a leash in your yard. But, if the weather's
lousy,
or there's a football game on TV, it's fine to let the dog out the
front
door and wave as it heads toward your neighbor's place.

Hey....here's a question for little Dave: The law in most towns says
that
if
you have a pool, you must have a fence with a gate that locks. Do you
think
that's nonsense, and that it should be up to the neighbors to keep
their
kids from drowning in your pool?

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

And if, after perhaps a dozen calls, the dog catcher does nothing, then what
would YOU do? To assist you with your answer, I'll point out that the word
"you" refers only to YOU, not to some hypothetical person, or people in
general.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:cjwjc.42536$GR.5946965@attbi_s01...
It does appear that we see it differently, but that should not surprise
either on of us. Neither the dog or the kids belong on the other person's
property. The correct course of action is to call the dog pound or the
police if the dog or kids are coming onto your property.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Interesting logic. I see it thusly: Two objects are capable of causing
harm
or damage: A dog, and a pool. If you choose to allow the dog to roam,
then
you will probably not care if a kid falls into your pool.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:nYvjc.50666$w96.4558920@attbi_s54...
Doug,
It is the law that the owner of a pool should put a fence around his
pool.
But, if we followed your logic concerning trespassing, it would be the
pool
owners right to shot any of the kids who came onto his property, The
parents of the kids did a poor job of teaching his children not to
violate
the neighbor and it will teach the parents and other kids in the
neighborhood not to step on other peoples property.



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Dave Hall wrote:
... I guess in his mind, he should not have to be
"burdened" with the chore of constructing a fence to keep the
unwanted
out of his garden. He feels that it's everyone else's
responsibility
to keep them out for him.

Still refusing to take responsibility for your actions, eh Dave?
Well
a
leapord never changes his spots.

It *is* the responsibility of every pet owner to keep his pet out
of
other peoples' yards.

Same as it *is* the responsibility of every boater to operate his
vessel
safely, and it *is* the responsibility of every boater to not
create
a
large wake in places where it isn't wanted. Funny how you cannot
grasp
the simple principles of responsibility & accountability.

DSK


It's called "selective personal responsibility". You only need to be
responsible about your dog when it's sunny and you don't mind
stepping
outside to hook it onto a leash in your yard. But, if the weather's
lousy,
or there's a football game on TV, it's fine to let the dog out the
front
door and wave as it heads toward your neighbor's place.

Hey....here's a question for little Dave: The law in most towns says
that
if
you have a pool, you must have a fence with a gate that locks. Do
you
think
that's nonsense, and that it should be up to the neighbors to keep
their
kids from drowning in your pool?

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

Doug,

It makes me wonder if your complaints with the dog catcher were viewed as
irrational. Has the dog catcher decided to ignore all roaming dog
complaints or just yours?

To answer your question about what I would do: I would video the dog
roaming free, I would video the damage the dog has done either to my garden
or to my carpet when I walked in with dog poo on my shoe. I would then file
a complaint in small claims court and seek damages. The dog owner would
find it is more trouble to go to small claims court than to keep his dog
from roaming.

As far as the dog catcher, I would contact my local elected representative
and ask him why the dog catcher is not performing his job. Have you ever
noticed that other people tend to ignore your complaints or view you as
unreasonable?



I would use a video to record the dog on my property and the damage he did,
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
And if, after perhaps a dozen calls, the dog catcher does nothing, then
what
would YOU do? To assist you with your answer, I'll point out that the
word
"you" refers only to YOU, not to some hypothetical person, or people in
general.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:cjwjc.42536$GR.5946965@attbi_s01...
It does appear that we see it differently, but that should not surprise
either on of us. Neither the dog or the kids belong on the other
person's
property. The correct course of action is to call the dog pound or the
police if the dog or kids are coming onto your property.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Interesting logic. I see it thusly: Two objects are capable of causing
harm
or damage: A dog, and a pool. If you choose to allow the dog to roam,
then
you will probably not care if a kid falls into your pool.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:nYvjc.50666$w96.4558920@attbi_s54...
Doug,
It is the law that the owner of a pool should put a fence around his
pool.
But, if we followed your logic concerning trespassing, it would be
the
pool
owners right to shot any of the kids who came onto his property,
The
parents of the kids did a poor job of teaching his children not to
violate
the neighbor and it will teach the parents and other kids in the
neighborhood not to step on other peoples property.



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Dave Hall wrote:
... I guess in his mind, he should not have to be
"burdened" with the chore of constructing a fence to keep the
unwanted
out of his garden. He feels that it's everyone else's
responsibility
to keep them out for him.

Still refusing to take responsibility for your actions, eh Dave?
Well
a
leapord never changes his spots.

It *is* the responsibility of every pet owner to keep his pet
out
of
other peoples' yards.

Same as it *is* the responsibility of every boater to operate
his
vessel
safely, and it *is* the responsibility of every boater to not
create
a
large wake in places where it isn't wanted. Funny how you cannot
grasp
the simple principles of responsibility & accountability.

DSK


It's called "selective personal responsibility". You only need to
be
responsible about your dog when it's sunny and you don't mind
stepping
outside to hook it onto a leash in your yard. But, if the
weather's
lousy,
or there's a football game on TV, it's fine to let the dog out the
front
door and wave as it heads toward your neighbor's place.

Hey....here's a question for little Dave: The law in most towns
says
that
if
you have a pool, you must have a fence with a gate that locks. Do
you
think
that's nonsense, and that it should be up to the neighbors to keep
their
kids from drowning in your pool?

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

"Bob D." wrote in message
...
In article , "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


Hey....here's a question for little Dave: The law in most towns says
that if
you have a pool, you must have a fence with a gate that locks. Do you
think
that's nonsense, and that it should be up to the neighbors to keep their
kids from drowning in your pool?

This coincides with "attractive nuisance" laws in many communities.
Usually these laws state anything on your property that can be considered
"attractive" to children or adults of diminished reasoning capacity
(Henry?), which presents a potential danger, must also have a resonable
safegards to deter unauthorized access.

My answer to this question falls in line with my previous statements. I
don't necessarily believe in these laws per se (I'm sure their are
individual cases where I will concede this point). I don't think I could
easily reconcile the fact that an innocent child found dead in my pool as
"his tough luck".

Just because I believe in personal responsibily does not mean I am devoid
of compassion. It's the difference between being right, and doing the
right thing.

Bob Dimond

At the very least, a drowning in your pool would, according to Murphy's Law,
occur just when you were about to leave for an excellent afternoon of
fishing. That would be inexcusable.

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

Actually, one dog catcher was fired several months after my biggest problems
occurred.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:qywjc.31332$YP5.2471000@attbi_s02...
Doug,

It makes me wonder if your complaints with the dog catcher were viewed as
irrational. Has the dog catcher decided to ignore all roaming dog
complaints or just yours?

To answer your question about what I would do: I would video the dog
roaming free, I would video the damage the dog has done either to my
garden
or to my carpet when I walked in with dog poo on my shoe. I would then
file
a complaint in small claims court and seek damages. The dog owner would
find it is more trouble to go to small claims court than to keep his dog
from roaming.

As far as the dog catcher, I would contact my local elected representative
and ask him why the dog catcher is not performing his job. Have you ever
noticed that other people tend to ignore your complaints or view you as
unreasonable?



I would use a video to record the dog on my property and the damage he
did,
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
And if, after perhaps a dozen calls, the dog catcher does nothing, then
what
would YOU do? To assist you with your answer, I'll point out that the
word
"you" refers only to YOU, not to some hypothetical person, or people in
general.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:cjwjc.42536$GR.5946965@attbi_s01...
It does appear that we see it differently, but that should not
surprise
either on of us. Neither the dog or the kids belong on the other
person's
property. The correct course of action is to call the dog pound or
the
police if the dog or kids are coming onto your property.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Interesting logic. I see it thusly: Two objects are capable of
causing
harm
or damage: A dog, and a pool. If you choose to allow the dog to
roam,
then
you will probably not care if a kid falls into your pool.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:nYvjc.50666$w96.4558920@attbi_s54...
Doug,
It is the law that the owner of a pool should put a fence around
his
pool.
But, if we followed your logic concerning trespassing, it would be
the
pool
owners right to shot any of the kids who came onto his property,
The
parents of the kids did a poor job of teaching his children not to
violate
the neighbor and it will teach the parents and other kids in the
neighborhood not to step on other peoples property.



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Dave Hall wrote:
... I guess in his mind, he should not have to be
"burdened" with the chore of constructing a fence to keep
the
unwanted
out of his garden. He feels that it's everyone else's
responsibility
to keep them out for him.

Still refusing to take responsibility for your actions, eh
Dave?
Well
a
leapord never changes his spots.

It *is* the responsibility of every pet owner to keep his pet
out
of
other peoples' yards.

Same as it *is* the responsibility of every boater to operate
his
vessel
safely, and it *is* the responsibility of every boater to not
create
a
large wake in places where it isn't wanted. Funny how you
cannot
grasp
the simple principles of responsibility & accountability.

DSK


It's called "selective personal responsibility". You only need
to
be
responsible about your dog when it's sunny and you don't mind
stepping
outside to hook it onto a leash in your yard. But, if the
weather's
lousy,
or there's a football game on TV, it's fine to let the dog out
the
front
door and wave as it heads toward your neighbor's place.

Hey....here's a question for little Dave: The law in most towns
says
that
if
you have a pool, you must have a fence with a gate that locks.
Do
you
think
that's nonsense, and that it should be up to the neighbors to
keep
their
kids from drowning in your pool?

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

It seems that you provided your own answer to the question. If you had
talked to the supervisor instead of the dog catcher, it would have solved
your problem.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Actually, one dog catcher was fired several months after my biggest
problems
occurred.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:qywjc.31332$YP5.2471000@attbi_s02...
Doug,

It makes me wonder if your complaints with the dog catcher were viewed
as
irrational. Has the dog catcher decided to ignore all roaming dog
complaints or just yours?

To answer your question about what I would do: I would video the dog
roaming free, I would video the damage the dog has done either to my
garden
or to my carpet when I walked in with dog poo on my shoe. I would then
file
a complaint in small claims court and seek damages. The dog owner would
find it is more trouble to go to small claims court than to keep his dog
from roaming.

As far as the dog catcher, I would contact my local elected
representative
and ask him why the dog catcher is not performing his job. Have you
ever
noticed that other people tend to ignore your complaints or view you as
unreasonable?



I would use a video to record the dog on my property and the damage he
did,
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
And if, after perhaps a dozen calls, the dog catcher does nothing,
then
what
would YOU do? To assist you with your answer, I'll point out that the
word
"you" refers only to YOU, not to some hypothetical person, or people
in
general.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:cjwjc.42536$GR.5946965@attbi_s01...
It does appear that we see it differently, but that should not
surprise
either on of us. Neither the dog or the kids belong on the other
person's
property. The correct course of action is to call the dog pound or
the
police if the dog or kids are coming onto your property.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Interesting logic. I see it thusly: Two objects are capable of
causing
harm
or damage: A dog, and a pool. If you choose to allow the dog to
roam,
then
you will probably not care if a kid falls into your pool.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:nYvjc.50666$w96.4558920@attbi_s54...
Doug,
It is the law that the owner of a pool should put a fence around
his
pool.
But, if we followed your logic concerning trespassing, it would
be
the
pool
owners right to shot any of the kids who came onto his property,
The
parents of the kids did a poor job of teaching his children not
to
violate
the neighbor and it will teach the parents and other kids in the
neighborhood not to step on other peoples property.



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Dave Hall wrote:
... I guess in his mind, he should not have to be
"burdened" with the chore of constructing a fence to keep
the
unwanted
out of his garden. He feels that it's everyone else's
responsibility
to keep them out for him.

Still refusing to take responsibility for your actions, eh
Dave?
Well
a
leapord never changes his spots.

It *is* the responsibility of every pet owner to keep his
pet
out
of
other peoples' yards.

Same as it *is* the responsibility of every boater to
operate
his
vessel
safely, and it *is* the responsibility of every boater to
not
create
a
large wake in places where it isn't wanted. Funny how you
cannot
grasp
the simple principles of responsibility & accountability.

DSK


It's called "selective personal responsibility". You only need
to
be
responsible about your dog when it's sunny and you don't mind
stepping
outside to hook it onto a leash in your yard. But, if the
weather's
lousy,
or there's a football game on TV, it's fine to let the dog out
the
front
door and wave as it heads toward your neighbor's place.

Hey....here's a question for little Dave: The law in most
towns
says
that
if
you have a pool, you must have a fence with a gate that locks.
Do
you
think
that's nonsense, and that it should be up to the neighbors to
keep
their
kids from drowning in your pool?

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

The dog catcher's supervisor, or the town supervisor?

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:2bxjc.42680$GR.5971547@attbi_s01...
It seems that you provided your own answer to the question. If you had
talked to the supervisor instead of the dog catcher, it would have solved
your problem.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Actually, one dog catcher was fired several months after my biggest
problems
occurred.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:qywjc.31332$YP5.2471000@attbi_s02...
Doug,

It makes me wonder if your complaints with the dog catcher were viewed
as
irrational. Has the dog catcher decided to ignore all roaming dog
complaints or just yours?

To answer your question about what I would do: I would video the dog
roaming free, I would video the damage the dog has done either to my
garden
or to my carpet when I walked in with dog poo on my shoe. I would
then
file
a complaint in small claims court and seek damages. The dog owner
would
find it is more trouble to go to small claims court than to keep his
dog
from roaming.

As far as the dog catcher, I would contact my local elected
representative
and ask him why the dog catcher is not performing his job. Have you
ever
noticed that other people tend to ignore your complaints or view you
as
unreasonable?



I would use a video to record the dog on my property and the damage he
did,
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
And if, after perhaps a dozen calls, the dog catcher does nothing,
then
what
would YOU do? To assist you with your answer, I'll point out that
the
word
"you" refers only to YOU, not to some hypothetical person, or people
in
general.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:cjwjc.42536$GR.5946965@attbi_s01...
It does appear that we see it differently, but that should not
surprise
either on of us. Neither the dog or the kids belong on the other
person's
property. The correct course of action is to call the dog pound
or
the
police if the dog or kids are coming onto your property.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Interesting logic. I see it thusly: Two objects are capable of
causing
harm
or damage: A dog, and a pool. If you choose to allow the dog to
roam,
then
you will probably not care if a kid falls into your pool.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:nYvjc.50666$w96.4558920@attbi_s54...
Doug,
It is the law that the owner of a pool should put a fence
around
his
pool.
But, if we followed your logic concerning trespassing, it
would
be
the
pool
owners right to shot any of the kids who came onto his
property,
The
parents of the kids did a poor job of teaching his children
not
to
violate
the neighbor and it will teach the parents and other kids in
the
neighborhood not to step on other peoples property.



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Dave Hall wrote:
... I guess in his mind, he should not have to be
"burdened" with the chore of constructing a fence to
keep
the
unwanted
out of his garden. He feels that it's everyone else's
responsibility
to keep them out for him.

Still refusing to take responsibility for your actions, eh
Dave?
Well
a
leapord never changes his spots.

It *is* the responsibility of every pet owner to keep his
pet
out
of
other peoples' yards.

Same as it *is* the responsibility of every boater to
operate
his
vessel
safely, and it *is* the responsibility of every boater to
not
create
a
large wake in places where it isn't wanted. Funny how you
cannot
grasp
the simple principles of responsibility & accountability.

DSK


It's called "selective personal responsibility". You only
need
to
be
responsible about your dog when it's sunny and you don't
mind
stepping
outside to hook it onto a leash in your yard. But, if the
weather's
lousy,
or there's a football game on TV, it's fine to let the dog
out
the
front
door and wave as it heads toward your neighbor's place.

Hey....here's a question for little Dave: The law in most
towns
says
that
if
you have a pool, you must have a fence with a gate that
locks.
Do
you
think
that's nonsense, and that it should be up to the neighbors
to
keep
their
kids from drowning in your pool?

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

I would start with the dog catcher's supervisor and if that did not work,
then the town supervisor and my council representative.

Somehow I feel this is a trick question, but my point is, I can think of no
reason to kill a dog, unless the dog was placing someone in immediate
danger. As soon as the dog left, or was under control, I would use the
courts to resolve my differences with the owner and/or the town council for
not obeying the laws.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
The dog catcher's supervisor, or the town supervisor?

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:2bxjc.42680$GR.5971547@attbi_s01...
It seems that you provided your own answer to the question. If you had
talked to the supervisor instead of the dog catcher, it would have
solved
your problem.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Actually, one dog catcher was fired several months after my biggest
problems
occurred.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:qywjc.31332$YP5.2471000@attbi_s02...
Doug,

It makes me wonder if your complaints with the dog catcher were
viewed
as
irrational. Has the dog catcher decided to ignore all roaming dog
complaints or just yours?

To answer your question about what I would do: I would video the
dog
roaming free, I would video the damage the dog has done either to my
garden
or to my carpet when I walked in with dog poo on my shoe. I would
then
file
a complaint in small claims court and seek damages. The dog owner
would
find it is more trouble to go to small claims court than to keep his
dog
from roaming.

As far as the dog catcher, I would contact my local elected
representative
and ask him why the dog catcher is not performing his job. Have you
ever
noticed that other people tend to ignore your complaints or view you
as
unreasonable?



I would use a video to record the dog on my property and the damage
he
did,
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
And if, after perhaps a dozen calls, the dog catcher does nothing,
then
what
would YOU do? To assist you with your answer, I'll point out that
the
word
"you" refers only to YOU, not to some hypothetical person, or
people
in
general.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:cjwjc.42536$GR.5946965@attbi_s01...
It does appear that we see it differently, but that should not
surprise
either on of us. Neither the dog or the kids belong on the other
person's
property. The correct course of action is to call the dog pound
or
the
police if the dog or kids are coming onto your property.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Interesting logic. I see it thusly: Two objects are capable of
causing
harm
or damage: A dog, and a pool. If you choose to allow the dog
to
roam,
then
you will probably not care if a kid falls into your pool.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:nYvjc.50666$w96.4558920@attbi_s54...
Doug,
It is the law that the owner of a pool should put a fence
around
his
pool.
But, if we followed your logic concerning trespassing, it
would
be
the
pool
owners right to shot any of the kids who came onto his
property,
The
parents of the kids did a poor job of teaching his children
not
to
violate
the neighbor and it will teach the parents and other kids in
the
neighborhood not to step on other peoples property.



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Dave Hall wrote:
... I guess in his mind, he should not have to be
"burdened" with the chore of constructing a fence to
keep
the
unwanted
out of his garden. He feels that it's everyone else's
responsibility
to keep them out for him.

Still refusing to take responsibility for your actions,
eh
Dave?
Well
a
leapord never changes his spots.

It *is* the responsibility of every pet owner to keep
his
pet
out
of
other peoples' yards.

Same as it *is* the responsibility of every boater to
operate
his
vessel
safely, and it *is* the responsibility of every boater
to
not
create
a
large wake in places where it isn't wanted. Funny how
you
cannot
grasp
the simple principles of responsibility &
accountability.

DSK


It's called "selective personal responsibility". You only
need
to
be
responsible about your dog when it's sunny and you don't
mind
stepping
outside to hook it onto a leash in your yard. But, if the
weather's
lousy,
or there's a football game on TV, it's fine to let the dog
out
the
front
door and wave as it heads toward your neighbor's place.

Hey....here's a question for little Dave: The law in most
towns
says
that
if
you have a pool, you must have a fence with a gate that
locks.
Do
you
think
that's nonsense, and that it should be up to the neighbors
to
keep
their
kids from drowning in your pool?

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

1) Dog catcher was a one main operation.
2) For small claims, the plaintiff usually isn't reimbursed for lost pay
because of having to take time off from work to sit in court.

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:Tlxjc.52420$aQ6.3937372@attbi_s51...
I would start with the dog catcher's supervisor and if that did not work,
then the town supervisor and my council representative.

Somehow I feel this is a trick question, but my point is, I can think of
no
reason to kill a dog, unless the dog was placing someone in immediate
danger. As soon as the dog left, or was under control, I would use the
courts to resolve my differences with the owner and/or the town council
for
not obeying the laws.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
The dog catcher's supervisor, or the town supervisor?

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:2bxjc.42680$GR.5971547@attbi_s01...
It seems that you provided your own answer to the question. If you
had
talked to the supervisor instead of the dog catcher, it would have
solved
your problem.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Actually, one dog catcher was fired several months after my biggest
problems
occurred.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:qywjc.31332$YP5.2471000@attbi_s02...
Doug,

It makes me wonder if your complaints with the dog catcher were
viewed
as
irrational. Has the dog catcher decided to ignore all roaming dog
complaints or just yours?

To answer your question about what I would do: I would video the
dog
roaming free, I would video the damage the dog has done either to
my
garden
or to my carpet when I walked in with dog poo on my shoe. I would
then
file
a complaint in small claims court and seek damages. The dog owner
would
find it is more trouble to go to small claims court than to keep
his
dog
from roaming.

As far as the dog catcher, I would contact my local elected
representative
and ask him why the dog catcher is not performing his job. Have
you
ever
noticed that other people tend to ignore your complaints or view
you
as
unreasonable?



I would use a video to record the dog on my property and the
damage
he
did,
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
And if, after perhaps a dozen calls, the dog catcher does
nothing,
then
what
would YOU do? To assist you with your answer, I'll point out
that
the
word
"you" refers only to YOU, not to some hypothetical person, or
people
in
general.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:cjwjc.42536$GR.5946965@attbi_s01...
It does appear that we see it differently, but that should not
surprise
either on of us. Neither the dog or the kids belong on the
other
person's
property. The correct course of action is to call the dog
pound
or
the
police if the dog or kids are coming onto your property.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Interesting logic. I see it thusly: Two objects are capable
of
causing
harm
or damage: A dog, and a pool. If you choose to allow the dog
to
roam,
then
you will probably not care if a kid falls into your pool.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:nYvjc.50666$w96.4558920@attbi_s54...
Doug,
It is the law that the owner of a pool should put a fence
around
his
pool.
But, if we followed your logic concerning trespassing, it
would
be
the
pool
owners right to shot any of the kids who came onto his
property,
The
parents of the kids did a poor job of teaching his
children
not
to
violate
the neighbor and it will teach the parents and other kids
in
the
neighborhood not to step on other peoples property.



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Dave Hall wrote:
... I guess in his mind, he should not have to be
"burdened" with the chore of constructing a fence to
keep
the
unwanted
out of his garden. He feels that it's everyone
else's
responsibility
to keep them out for him.

Still refusing to take responsibility for your
actions,
eh
Dave?
Well
a
leapord never changes his spots.

It *is* the responsibility of every pet owner to keep
his
pet
out
of
other peoples' yards.

Same as it *is* the responsibility of every boater to
operate
his
vessel
safely, and it *is* the responsibility of every boater
to
not
create
a
large wake in places where it isn't wanted. Funny how
you
cannot
grasp
the simple principles of responsibility &
accountability.

DSK


It's called "selective personal responsibility". You
only
need
to
be
responsible about your dog when it's sunny and you don't
mind
stepping
outside to hook it onto a leash in your yard. But, if
the
weather's
lousy,
or there's a football game on TV, it's fine to let the
dog
out
the
front
door and wave as it heads toward your neighbor's place.

Hey....here's a question for little Dave: The law in
most
towns
says
that
if
you have a pool, you must have a fence with a gate that
locks.
Do
you
think
that's nonsense, and that it should be up to the
neighbors
to
keep
their
kids from drowning in your pool?

When would you board someone else's boat??
 

Doug,
You seem like a true humanitarian. Don stated that if someone violated his
rights, the law required him to shot the person in the face, do you think
that might be a little drastic of a solution?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
1) Dog catcher was a one main operation.
2) For small claims, the plaintiff usually isn't reimbursed for lost pay
because of having to take time off from work to sit in court.

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:Tlxjc.52420$aQ6.3937372@attbi_s51...
I would start with the dog catcher's supervisor and if that did not
work,
then the town supervisor and my council representative.

Somehow I feel this is a trick question, but my point is, I can think of
no
reason to kill a dog, unless the dog was placing someone in immediate
danger. As soon as the dog left, or was under control, I would use the
courts to resolve my differences with the owner and/or the town council
for
not obeying the laws.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
The dog catcher's supervisor, or the town supervisor?

"John Smith" wrote in message
news:2bxjc.42680$GR.5971547@attbi_s01...
It seems that you provided your own answer to the question. If you
had
talked to the supervisor instead of the dog catcher, it would have
solved
your problem.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Actually, one dog catcher was fired several months after my
biggest
problems
occurred.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:qywjc.31332$YP5.2471000@attbi_s02...
Doug,

It makes me wonder if your complaints with the dog catcher were
viewed
as
irrational. Has the dog catcher decided to ignore all roaming
dog
complaints or just yours?

To answer your question about what I would do: I would video
the
dog
roaming free, I would video the damage the dog has done either
to
my
garden
or to my carpet when I walked in with dog poo on my shoe. I
would
then
file
a complaint in small claims court and seek damages. The dog
owner
would
find it is more trouble to go to small claims court than to keep
his
dog
from roaming.

As far as the dog catcher, I would contact my local elected
representative
and ask him why the dog catcher is not performing his job. Have
you
ever
noticed that other people tend to ignore your complaints or view
you
as
unreasonable?



I would use a video to record the dog on my property and the
damage
he
did,
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
And if, after perhaps a dozen calls, the dog catcher does
nothing,
then
what
would YOU do? To assist you with your answer, I'll point out
that
the
word
"you" refers only to YOU, not to some hypothetical person, or
people
in
general.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:cjwjc.42536$GR.5946965@attbi_s01...
It does appear that we see it differently, but that should
not
surprise
either on of us. Neither the dog or the kids belong on the
other
person's
property. The correct course of action is to call the dog
pound
or
the
police if the dog or kids are coming onto your property.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Interesting logic. I see it thusly: Two objects are
capable
of
causing
harm
or damage: A dog, and a pool. If you choose to allow the
dog
to
roam,
then
you will probably not care if a kid falls into your pool.


"John Smith" wrote in message
news:nYvjc.50666$w96.4558920@attbi_s54...
Doug,
It is the law that the owner of a pool should put a
fence
around
his
pool.
But, if we followed your logic concerning trespassing,
it
would
be
the
pool
owners right to shot any of the kids who came onto his
property,
The
parents of the kids did a poor job of teaching his
children
not
to
violate
the neighbor and it will teach the parents and other
kids
in
the
neighborhood not to step on other peoples property.



"Doug Kanter" wrote in
message
...
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Dave Hall wrote:
... I guess in his mind, he should not have to be
"burdened" with the chore of constructing a fence
to
keep
the
unwanted
out of his garden. He feels that it's everyone
else's
responsibility
to keep them out for him.

Still refusing to take responsibility for your
actions,
eh
Dave?
Well
a
leapord never changes his spots.

It *is* the responsibility of every pet owner to
keep
his
pet
out
of
other peoples' yards.

Same as it *is* the responsibility of every boater
to
operate
his
vessel
safely, and it *is* the responsibility of every
boater
to
not
create
a
large wake in places where it isn't wanted. Funny
how
you
cannot
grasp
the simple principles of responsibility &
accountability.

DSK


It's called "selective personal responsibility". You
only
need
to
be
responsible about your dog when it's sunny and you
don't
mind
stepping
outside to hook it onto a leash in your yard. But, if
the
weather's
lousy,
or there's a football game on TV, it's fine to let the
dog
out
the
front
door and wave as it heads toward your neighbor's
place.

Hey....here's a question for little Dave: The law in
most
towns
says
that
if
you have a pool, you must have a fence with a gate
that
locks.
Do
you
think
that's nonsense, and that it should be up to the
neighbors
to
keep
their
kids from drowning in your pool?