NOYB wrote in message
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Great idea. Let's just shut down the entire ICW on the East and West
Coasts, too, while we're at it!

Putz.


From what I read in here, it's almost that way already.

In article .net,
says...
2 Florida counties filed intent to sue Federal Fish and Wildlife over new
manatee zones. The suit alleges the zones are unnecessarily restrictive to
local users and instituted based on unsound science.

Duval and St. Johns counties claim old boundaries worked they way they
were intended and draconian limits on the usage of the river are
unnecessary. "We will not waste any more time on fruitless and unproductive
dialog," states official.

The save the manatee club based in Maitland, FL, commented they have spent
thousands of dollars to prove the limits are absolutely required.

Dr. Carole DeMort, State Marine Biologist and Marine Biology Department
Chair for University of North Florida said " I can't imagine how the Save
The Manatee Club arrived at their scientific evaluation of the number of
manatees killed annually. Using their model, manatees became extinct 12
years ago." "The manatee has made a great recovery in the past 10 years.
Their numbers have grown from an perhaps 3000 in 1980 to an estimated 40,000
state wide. Their species status should be changed from endangered to
threatened." It is only natural, that with so many more creatures, more will
interact with boats and other portions of technology.





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Capt. Frank

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Survival of the fittest.. Enough said!!

"Florida Keyz" wrote in message
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Avoid hitting an annimal that Is not from Florida, does not belong here,
is not
endangered, and had taken over your voting, boating, and docking
(building )
rights.

Believe me when I tell you that I try very hard to see both sides of this
issue, especially since I don't know a lot about it. But "does not belong
here"? Wherever they are, they're there for a reason, so you may as well
adjust as much as possible. It sounds like you try.

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote in message
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How much non-renewable resources does it take to make a 50' sailboat?
And
to replace the sails.



Sailboats are in a whole different category...at one with nature..quiet
yet
beautiful.
I think the gov't should offer a tax deduction to encourage sailboat
buyers
and discourage power.

I think *your* government should. Our government is happy the way things
are.



Actually, our government doesn't KNOW where it is. :-) A tax break for
buying light trucks? Hello???

When I said manatee do not belong here, is because there were inported from
West India to miami to eat the plants clogging the cannals.

"Florida Keyz" wrote in message
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When I said manatee do not belong here, is because there were inported
from
West India to miami to eat the plants clogging the cannals.

OK, but so what? They're here. If you move to a new neighborhood and the
locals don't like your family, is it OK for them to run you down with their
cars? :-)

your arguments are childish, probably from you lack of experience, and bogus
email name.

Bill,Your a coward, hiding behind it. but then,,,,that figures.

Guess I asked for it, trying to post on topic, with factual information,
instead of grade school banter.

Doug Kanter wrote:

"Florida Keyz" wrote in message
...


Avoid hitting an annimal that Is not from Florida, does not belong here,

is not

endangered, and had taken over your voting, boating, and docking

(building )

rights.


Believe me when I tell you that I try very hard to see both sides of this
issue, especially since I don't know a lot about it. But "does not belong
here"? Wherever they are, they're there for a reason, so you may as well
adjust as much as possible. It sounds like you try.


They are there because they can. They eat a particular type of sea
plant which otherwise quickly fills shallow water so it is unuseable
by boats, power and sail. I believe the plant is an exotic import,
like zebra mussels are. Manatees are the only way to control the
Japanese sea cabbage, or whatever it is.

To be cynical, the only reason they need protecting is so that
waters attractive to boats remain open.

Mind you, they also destroy habitat for young fish, who find shelter
from predators in the weeds, and snails to eat, or something that
lives on the weed. I forget the names of all the interacting organisms.

That's why its called ecology, because it's complex.

Who is to define the "Proper natural balance?"

What will we eat when the little fish do thier thing, or don't?

Speed should be regulated according to depth. Who's in a hurry,
anyway, and why?

Terry K

Doug Kanter wrote:

"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote in message

news:qGp1c.19797

How much non-renewable resources does it take to make a 50' sailboat?

And

to replace the sails.



Sailboats are in a whole different category...at one with nature..quiet
yet beautiful.

I think the gov't should offer a tax deduction to encourage sailboat
buyers and discourage power.

I think *your* government should. Our government is happy the way things
are.

Actually, our government doesn't KNOW where it is. :-) A tax break for
buying light trucks? Hello???

Relaxed emission and economy regulations for light trucks? Hello?

That's like a discount for high rate of fire guns and ammo. Goodbye?

Terry K

The reason these laws keep getting thrown out is they don't use any science to
determine what the speed limit should be.
Around here they have the 25MPH zones exactly where you are most likely to hit
a manatee and it is "slow" speed where you seldom ever see one. That is what
happens when you have knee jerk polititians making these rules.