KMAN observes:
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Someone who is having trouble focusing in class who gets a smash on the
back
of the hand is being forced to comply. There is no learning or respect
or
understanding. Just compliance.
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And there's plenty of research on the use of force, to ensure
compliance, which indicates that, give half a chance, the "victim" will
turn around and return the favor.

The effect of force for purposes of compliance is generally
"short-term" compliance where "short-term" is defined as "so long as
the party using the force is percieved to be in a more powerful
position".

The moment the teenager, being forced into compliance by the father,
reckons he's tougher than his old man, the old man had better watch his
step, 'cause he's gonna get a really good hiding to make up for all the
ones he dished out.

frtzw906

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

KMAN observes:
=================
Someone who is having trouble focusing in class who gets a smash on the
back
of the hand is being forced to comply. There is no learning or respect
or
understanding. Just compliance.
================

And there's plenty of research on the use of force, to ensure
compliance, which indicates that, give half a chance, the "victim" will
turn around and return the favor.

The effect of force for purposes of compliance is generally
"short-term" compliance where "short-term" is defined as "so long as
the party using the force is percieved to be in a more powerful
position".

Interestingly, there is ALWAYS someone in a "more powerful" position in
every person's life. If no one else, the government itself, which is
perfectly capable and willing of exercising any degree of force necessary to
obtain compliance, up to and including deadly force.

Learning how to audit your behavior in response to those in authority over
you is necessary if one is to be successful in life. That's why mandatory
universal military service is a very good idea.


The moment the teenager, being forced into compliance by the father,
reckons he's tougher than his old man, the old man had better watch his
step, 'cause he's gonna get a really good hiding to make up for all the
ones he dished out.

Funny how that rarely happens in families where corporal punishment is
properly administered. Could it be that as the child grows, he comes to
understand why his parent might have given him a licking? Could it be that
the man he becomes understands that his father was looking out for his best
interests when he was a child, and that by being firm, fair and consistent
in his administration of discipline, his father was setting and enforcing
boundaries on proper conduct that every child needs in order to grow up
properly?

I got only a couple of "really good hidings" from my father, and I richly
deserved each one, and I not only don't hold any animus towards him, I
reverently thank him for caring enough about me to discipline me when I was
being a total ****. That's a recognition I came to as a young adult, when I
finally realized that I wasn't supposed to be in charge because I didn't
know how to be in charge.

You resolutely refuse to distinguish between appropriate discipline and
random abuse. There is a huge difference.

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Scott Weiser

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