(Gould 0738) wrote in message
Good grief Bass. The people who arrive at conclusions about Kerry's political
postures by watching a video of him on a windsurf board, will *never* read
through something like that.

This example illustrates why the right is doing so well lately. Kerry's
supporters publish well documented, thoroughly researched items like the one
you posted- but most people lack the self discipline to read it, or the
intellect to comprehend it.
Meanwhile, the right wing relies on slogan, rumor, insult, and easily
remembered but out-of-context sound bytes to attract that portion of the
electorate that is more numerous, but less mentally adept. In the end, it
doesn't matter *where* your support comes from, just that it slightly
outnumbers the other guy's and in the right combination of states.

Yeah, I suppose you are right. I don't think that they really care
about truth. I was listening to Hannity on the way home, and it was
actually laughable! Here he is, interviewing someone on HIS side, and
he coached him constantly by asking a question, then expanding on that
question by almost answering it for the person, and talking so much
that the person could only get out a "well,....maybe...", and he'd
interject!

"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:JdG4d.245117$mD.123682@attbi_s02...
Doug,
I am glad you got a good education and have continued to learn. My point
to
Gould was the two surveys below showed that Republicans have a better
formal
education than Democrats.

See link: http://plsc.uark.edu/arkpoll/fall99/party/PAGE4.HTM

And the higher the education level the more informed the voters a

http://www.policyattitudes.org/emsappxb.htm

So the higher the education, the less they will be influenced by sound
bites, slogan's, rumors and insults.

So if Gould is going to make statements such as " " the right wing relies
on
slogan, rumor,
insult, and easily remembered but out-of-context sound bytes to attract
that
portion of the
electorate that is more numerous, but less mentally adept."

It is not supported by any facts. In fact, two independent surveys show
the
opposite to be true.

Gould believes most Republicans get their facts from Rush and Hannity. I
have not seen any surveys that show most Republicans listen to either one.

Well, then find a label for the enormous audience enjoyed by idiots like
Rush & Hannity. We know the audience is large because companies like Clear
Channel never EVER carry programming unless it turns a profit. Incidentally,
I suspect the audience is not primarily Dems.

Even if all of the audience is Republicans, they can have an extremely large
audience and still not come close to being the majority of Republicans.
Also, it has not been proven that those Republicans who do listen believe
any or all of what they hear on those shows.

So what Gould was guilty of is making generalization concerning the
Republicans based upon
"slogan, rumor, insult, and easily remembered but out-of-context sound bytes
to attract
that portion of the electorate that is more numerous, but less mentally
adept

smile.


....
"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:JdG4d.245117$mD.123682@attbi_s02...
Doug,
I am glad you got a good education and have continued to learn. My point
to
Gould was the two surveys below showed that Republicans have a better
formal
education than Democrats.

See link: http://plsc.uark.edu/arkpoll/fall99/party/PAGE4.HTM

And the higher the education level the more informed the voters a

http://www.policyattitudes.org/emsappxb.htm

So the higher the education, the less they will be influenced by sound
bites, slogan's, rumors and insults.

So if Gould is going to make statements such as " " the right wing relies
on
slogan, rumor,
insult, and easily remembered but out-of-context sound bytes to attract
that
portion of the
electorate that is more numerous, but less mentally adept."

It is not supported by any facts. In fact, two independent surveys show
the
opposite to be true.

Gould believes most Republicans get their facts from Rush and Hannity. I
have not seen any surveys that show most Republicans listen to either
one.

Well, then find a label for the enormous audience enjoyed by idiots like
Rush & Hannity. We know the audience is large because companies like Clear
Channel never EVER carry programming unless it turns a profit.
Incidentally,
I suspect the audience is not primarily Dems.

"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
news:WZG4d.101817$D%.8316@attbi_s51...
Even if all of the audience is Republicans, they can have an extremely
large
audience and still not come close to being the majority of Republicans.
Also, it has not been proven that those Republicans who do listen believe
any or all of what they hear on those shows.

True, but the audience seems to be extremely vocal about their beliefs,
which happen to match the bull**** spewed on those programs. This may seem
harmless, but those people repeat things like "Kerry voted against increased
intelligence funding", without knowing if the legislation in question had
riders for the building of a useless dam in North Dakota. They tell these
things to everyone who will listen, including their children. Therefore,
they are like a virus.


So what Gould was guilty of is making generalization concerning the
Republicans based upon
"slogan, rumor, insult, and easily remembered but out-of-context sound
bytes
to attract
that portion of the electorate that is more numerous, but less mentally
adept

Gould's generalization seems to be true, since your president was, in fact,
elected (if you choose to ignore the Florida debacle and continue to use the
word "elected").

But, let's assume you're correct, and the majority of Republicans are
smarter than the morons who shape their views around scum like Rush. How do
you explain the FACT that this enlightened and educated majority voted for a
boy who can barely get through a press conference without repeatedly
stumbling over his native language.

Is it possible (and think carefully here) that they wanted a president who
would leave things as they are because his supporters are comfortable?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Is it possible (and think carefully here) that they wanted a president who
would leave things as they are because his supporters are comfortable?

My guess is the only reason anyone would vote for Bush or Kerry is because
they support the principals of their respective parties.

I am not sure what you mean they are comfortable.

My guess is the only reason anyone would vote for Bush or Kerry is because
they support the principals of their respective parties.

You mean the Republicans all like Bush's small government and fiscal
accountability?

"Taco Heaven" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Is it possible (and think carefully here) that they wanted a president
who
would leave things as they are because his supporters are comfortable?

My guess is the only reason anyone would vote for Bush or Kerry is because
they support the principals of their respective parties.

I am not sure what you mean they are comfortable.



This is vague, but I mean comfortable in more than one way. Perhaps they're
financially comfortable and have the mistaken belief that one candidate or
the other is going to take something away from them. After all, that's the
usual campaign spew. Or, they're ideologically comfortable and believe the
spew about how a candidate's going to turn control of the country over to
the United Nations. Remember that crap?

Doug,
I am glad you got a good education and have continued to learn. My point to
Gould was the two surveys below showed that Republicans have a better formal
education than Democrats.

And my point stands:

To what portion of the audience do the slandrous right wing attack ads attempt
to appeal?

The college educated? puh-leeeze

Gould 0738 wrote:
Doug,
I am glad you got a good education and have continued to learn. My point to
Gould was the two surveys below showed that Republicans have a better formal
education than Democrats.

And my point stands:

To what portion of the audience do the slandrous right wing attack ads attempt
to appeal?

The college educated? puh-leeeze



Anything you need to know about today's Repubicans is embodied in their
support for George W. Bush, the dumbest, least competent POTUS in
anyone's memory.



--
We today have a president of the United States who looks like he is the
son of Howdy Doody or Alfred E. Newman, who isn't smarter than either of
them, who is arrogant about his ignorance, who is reckless and
incompetent, and whose backers are turning the United States into a pariah.

What, me worry?

Gould,

I thought you were smarter than that, my bad.

The attack ads and mud slinging from either the right or the left is not
targeted at democrats or republicans, they are targeted at the independents
and swing votes.

By the way, did you forget that independent study I referenced earlier, that
showed Kerry's team is more guilty of attack ads than Bush's team.

One needs to be careful of throwing stones if one lives in a glass house.

You are not upset about the slanderous slanderous attack ads, you are upset
because even though Kerry is using more negative advertising he is not as
effective as Bush's negative ads.






"Gould 0738" wrote in message
...
Doug,
I am glad you got a good education and have continued to learn. My point
to
Gould was the two surveys below showed that Republicans have a better
formal
education than Democrats.

And my point stands:

To what portion of the audience do the slandrous right wing attack ads
attempt
to appeal?

The college educated? puh-leeeze