Scott trying to explain the economics of a university education:
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More students, more tuition, more alumni donations.
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And where, may I ask, does tuition cover the cost of education?
ESPECIALLY med school.

Unless mandated by governments to do so (excluding the case of private
universities), I doubt any unversities would run med schools.

Since tuition does NOT cover the costs of educating doctors, please
explain the economics again.

frtzw906

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

Scott trying to explain the economics of a university education:
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More students, more tuition, more alumni donations.
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And where, may I ask, does tuition cover the cost of education?
ESPECIALLY med school.

I didn't say it did.


Unless mandated by governments to do so (excluding the case of private
universities), I doubt any unversities would run med schools.

Our government doesn't mandate anything.


Since tuition does NOT cover the costs of educating doctors, please
explain the economics again.

More students, more tuition, more alumni donations, more government
subsidies.

No students, no tuition, no alumni donations, no government subsidies.

Pretty simple, really.

--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

Scott:
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More students, more tuition, more alumni donations, more government
subsidies.

No students, no tuition, no alumni donations, no government subsidies.

Pretty simple, really.
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But WHY med schools?! They're so damned expensive to set up and run!

And please, forget about "alumni donations". Yeah! Right! We'll rely on
donations to fund our med school. GOOD LUCK! You're losing it Scotty!

And as to "Our government doesn't mandate anything." Are you quite
sure? Are you saying that although the government funds Whazzits State
University and the University of Whazzit State, this state government
exercises "no" control over what happens there? How positively
generous.

frtzw906

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

Scott:
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More students, more tuition, more alumni donations, more government
subsidies.

No students, no tuition, no alumni donations, no government subsidies.

Pretty simple, really.
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But WHY med schools?! They're so damned expensive to set up and run!

But there's profit to be made nonetheless.


And please, forget about "alumni donations". Yeah! Right! We'll rely on
donations to fund our med school. GOOD LUCK! You're losing it Scotty!

Hey, the CU med school gets millions and millions and millions from alums.


And as to "Our government doesn't mandate anything." Are you quite
sure? Are you saying that although the government funds Whazzits State
University and the University of Whazzit State, this state government
exercises "no" control over what happens there? How positively
generous.

Well, if you had heard about the Ward Churchill scandal (among others) at CU
Boulder, you would know that the state legislature's control over CU is
tenuous at best. CU receives less than 7 percent of its funding from the
state. The rest is tuition, donations and some research/patent income.
Believe me, if the legislature had any effective control over CU, Ward
Churchill would have been fired long ago. While the Governor does appoint
regents for all other colleges, CU (including the med school) Regents are
elected officials, and as such, have nearly plenary power.

--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

In discussing the finances of Whazzits State Univ, Scott asserts:
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But there's profit to be made nonetheless.
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Profits!!!! Profits!!!???? A public university makes a profit! Surely
you jest. Help me with this. Point me to a source.

Scott:
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While the Governor does appoint regents for all other colleges,
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OK, and then you presume to tell me that the government exercises NO
control over the affairs of the universities and colleges?!

Sounds like a direct link from the governor's mansion into the
university president's office.

frtzw906

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

In discussing the finances of Whazzits State Univ, Scott asserts:
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But there's profit to be made nonetheless.
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Profits!!!! Profits!!!???? A public university makes a profit! Surely
you jest. Help me with this. Point me to a source.

No, the hospitals and clinics who hire med school graduates make the
profits. They support the med schools so they have graduates to hire.



Scott:
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While the Governor does appoint regents for all other colleges,
====================

OK, and then you presume to tell me that the government exercises NO
control over the affairs of the universities and colleges?!

Other than appointing the Regents, no.


Sounds like a direct link from the governor's mansion into the
university president's office.

He may have persuasive power, but no legal authority except over a very
small portion of the budget.

And the CU president is well known for not giving a damn what a conservative
Governor has to say, since the president is appointed by the CU Regents, not
the governor.

--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

"Scott Weiser" wrote in message
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A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

In discussing the finances of Whazzits State Univ, Scott asserts:
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But there's profit to be made nonetheless.
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Profits!!!! Profits!!!???? A public university makes a profit! Surely
you jest. Help me with this. Point me to a source.

No, the hospitals and clinics who hire med school graduates make the
profits. They support the med schools so they have graduates to hire.

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That's a stretch and I think you're making that up. It's OK to admit that
there are institutions in the USA that do not operate according to the
profit principle (police for instance). And your state universities fit into
that category. And in those universities, the med schools are a terrible
drain on resources. They are everywhere.
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Scott:
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While the Governor does appoint regents for all other colleges,
====================

OK, and then you presume to tell me that the government exercises NO
control over the affairs of the universities and colleges?!

Other than appointing the Regents, no.

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Well, in our other threads, you've demonstrated a number of characteristics,
but naivete was never one of them.

If the governor appoints the Regents, they also get certain "marching
orders".
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Sounds like a direct link from the governor's mansion into the
university president's office.

He may have persuasive power, but no legal authority except over a very
small portion of the budget.

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All he needs is persuasive power.
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frtzw906