Scott Weiser wrote:
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: Yup, because you expect everybody else to pay for your bad driving habits
: and the expensive medical consequences. What if others don't want to pay for
: it? Why should you have a right to expect them to do so?

Wow... colorado must be a red state... course, Scott, "we" already pay for
someone's bad driving habits... Lets say you are in the left lane doing 55mph
in your Hummer while everyone else is doing 65mph. A motorcycle tries to pass
but his vision is blocked by the gleeming chrome of your Hummer's rhino bars
and he falls off. He'll be taken to the Hospital, and they will treat him
regardless of his insurance status, they have no choice, it's the law. The
hospital won't go and get him, but if he's brought there either by a passerby
or ambulance, he'll be treated (there was a case here in Chicago where someone
was shot in front of a hospital and they would not go get him to treat him...
as they are not required to , but cannot turn away anyone brought to them).

The hospital will try to collect from him, but they may or may not manage to
do so if he's uninsured.

Anyway, your insurance company has a contract with the hospital and they are
charged a reduced rate, whereas the un-insured guy on the bike gets charged
more so he may actually subsidize your next visit for whatever pains you,
which is paid for by insurance.

"... Because of these high health care costs, Ford spends more each year on
health care for employees and retirees than we spend on steel! ..."

As these costs continue to rise, it places U.S. jobs in jepardy. As Ford
recently pointed out, they spend more on health care than they do on steel,
while in Japan, with nationalized health care, Toyota doesn't need to do
the same. Google that above quote from Ford...

What happens when it gets to the point that private industry can no longer
afford it? What if every Ford is made in Windsor, eh?

: I truly believe the folks in public housing ( oh
: ,, We don't have a large homeless problem in my community. ) will get
: the same care. That is what reflects the values of my community.

: Yeah, "take from everybody and give to me" values.

Generally speaking, the rich tend to have a pretty good way of having the
country look after their interests... either by receiving no bid contracts
or various tax incentives... and the government makes sure theres plenty
of gas available for Hummers everywhere...

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: In the end I believe we will be judged by how we treat the poorest in
: society, not the wealthiest. I am pleased with Canada.

: Fine by me, just don't try to export your socialism down here, we don't want
: it.

It would actually be called compassion... I guess your not Christian but thats
ok, you live in a red state, I live in a blue state...

Hey, make sure next time you visit your doctor or hospital, you tell them you
don't want the reduced insurance rate for whatever treatment you are having,
but that you want to pay full price because nobody is gonna subsidize you!

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Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
Scott Weiser wrote:
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: Yup, because you expect everybody else to pay for your bad driving
habits
: and the expensive medical consequences. What if others don't want
to pay for
: it? Why should you have a right to expect them to do so?

Wow... colorado must be a red state...

It's a bit funny that the states that had a majority of votes for the
Republican presidential candidate have been called "red states", while
the states whose majority voted for the Democratic candidate are "blue
states". Red is the traditional color of socialism, while blue is the
color of conservatism.

Did someone do that on purpose?