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"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 2/26/05 5:35 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 2/25/05 9:07 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... "rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message .. . "rick" wrote in message snip.. In terms of ability to kill more people more quickly, it is definitely more dangerous than any bolt action. You won't find too many drug dealers sporting a Field King LOL! ================= LOL Thanks again for the proof of your stupidity. Why bring up bolt actions? Besides, many people can fire bolt actions very very quickly. My question was what makes the AK knockoff any more dangerous that other weapons of the type? I doubt it. ==================== You doubt what? I asked a question, but I doubt that you can answer, as that would require some knowledge. Again, tell us what makes the ak knockoff more dangerous than other. I'm sure there are lots of others as dangerous or more dangerous. ====================== Then why the spew on only assault weapons for the last few days, fool? Agenda? Because assault weapons are an obvious and logical starting point in getting rid of weapons that serve no useful purpose but to kill people. ==================== LOL If the death of people is the only justification for getting rid of anything, then cars should be first The care has a purpose other than killing people. It gets people from one place to another. Perhaps you were not aware of that. ===================== Guns have other purposes also, and yet they kill far far fewer people than cars. What are the other purposes of assault weapons, and how do those other purposes compare in usefulness to cars? ==================== They don't need to copmare to cars, fool. hat's your little bit of whackiness, fool. cigarettes I'm all in favour of getting rid of cigarettes. In fact, where I live, you can't smoke inside in any public building or place of business. Canadian health care system... At least no one dies waiting for care. ================ Yes, they do, and I have posted the information that says so. Liar. ================= LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims.... You are too afraid to look because your ideology would take a beating. I've looked. There's nothing there. Yes, there is. I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims.... Perhaps you should look at the the United States where more than 886,000 deaths could have been prevented from 1991 to 2000 if African Americans had received the same care as whites, according to an analysis in the December issue of the American Journal of Public Health. Why are you focused on lying about Canadian health care when hundreds of thousands of people are dying unecessarily in your own country? ================= LOL I'm not focused on it, you seem to want to discuss the lies you have presented in your jingoistic spews. You asre lying, plain and simple. Butthen, your simple mind knows no difference, eh fool? Lots of things kill far more people that assault weapons. thanks for again proving your ideological brainwashing, fool... Assault weapons are not needed in our communities. ============================= Many things aren't 'needed', fool. Usenet has no real 'need' Overall, cars have no real 'need.' Swimming pools have no real 'need.' "need" has nothing to do with it fool. It has more to do with purpose than need. Good point. Other than being used to shoot a lot of bullets at a lot of people quickly, their only other use is for selfish idiots who want to compensate for a small penis by having an assault weapon in their "collection" and so they can dream about being a hero one day by blasting away at some other idiot with an assault weapon. ======================= Nice spew, fool.... Too bad it's loony tooons time... Ah, came a little (pun intended) too close to home on that one! ======================= Nope, just laughing at your stupidity... All you are focusing on are visual aspects of a gun, the operation is not any different that many other weapons. It is different than any type of weapon where a lot of ammunition can't be fired quickly. ================= Now you ignorance is really taking over, isn't it? There are many other weapons not on the assault weaopn list that you like to spew about that fire just as fast, and just as many projectiles. I didn't say otherwise. Look again. ==================== I have, you only want to rant about the cause of the day that your ideology demands. I'm not ranting at all. ================== LOL Okay, lying.... What have a I lied about? ===================== Anything you have spewed about this week... Name one thing. Please quote the alleged lie, and provide proof that it is a lie. =========================== That Canadians don't wait for treatment in your health care system. provided that proof already. Too bad for you, liar. Or are you yourself lying, and too big of a coward to admit it? Please quote something I have said and explain why it is a lie. ================== That Canadians do not wait for treatment I never said this. You are lying. ====================== Yes, you did. Exactly that fool... much less die waiting Canadians are not dying in waiting lines for health care. You are lying. ================= LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims.... Again you porvw that you can't think for yourself, but rely on ignorance and sensationalism for your ideology. No idea what you are babbling about. ==================== Of course not, that would require some thoughts of your own, and your brainwashing doesn't allow for that, does it? If you mean someone brainwashed me into thinking that 30000+ people dying every year from guns is not a good thing, you are right. But at least I am not a liar and a coward like you. ====================== LOL Looks like you should know all about being a coward, since you are the one afraid to look up the data I have already presented, and told you where to look. You have never provided any reference to prove your allegation that Canadians are dying in waiting lines for health care. You are a liar and a coward. ====================== LOL Looks like you should know all about being a coward, since you are the one afraid to look up the data I have already presented, and told you where to look. You haven't provided anything that proves that Canadians are dying in line waiting for health care. Everyone knows you are a liar. But you are a coward, too weak to admit that you are a liar. ================= LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find out the facts... You are a liar and a coward. ================= LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims.... |
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"rick" writes:
"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 2/24/05 10:41 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... Where did I ever say an AK47 knockoff is any different than another less vicious gun (whatever that means)? ================== Just displaying the ignorance of you and other anti-gun idiots. The assualt rifle you keep spewing about works no differently, and fires a bullet no more powerful than other weapons. If you mean there are other weapons that are equally capable of killing, I am aware, and never said otherwise. ===================== Really? I'm surprised. Your facination with a certain weapon because of its looks is quite amusing. Again, what makes the AK more dangerous than other weapons? Well, the fact that AK47s fire 7.62mm hypervelocity rounds might have something to do with it. They are easily capable of taking off an arm or a leg if they stike bone, and, even if they don't strike bone, they will blast out a sizable chunk of flesh. They have quite a respectable rate of fire as well, even if they aren't the most accurate assault rifles in the world. The fact that criminals aren't likely to have any qualms about modifying their ammo (hollow points etc) doesn't help either. Of cource they are really no more lethal than any other weapon that uses that size of high-velocity round, and only slightly more lethal than an assault rifle using NATO issue 5.54mm rounds, such as the armalite, L85A1 or the Steyr-Aug. Any of that class of weapon is rather more lethal than an equivalent low-velocity type weapon, though you are still just as dead if you get shot by someone carrying a .22 pistol with good aim. -- James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk "I'm with Them. Same group, different department." (Justin, B5 "Z'Ha'Dum") |
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in article et, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 6:21 AM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 2/26/05 9:11 PM: .. ================= LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful ignorance. Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both. |
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in article et, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 6:28 AM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 2/26/05 5:30 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 2/25/05 9:03 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... "rick" wrote in message ink.net... snippage... Whatever selfish but harmless reasons there might be for desiring to own an assault weapon, they can't possibly outweight the benefits of not having them available to those who wish to kill a lot of people quickly. ======================== Where are all these people that wish to kill 'a lot'(code for 1000s) of people? "A lot" is NOT code for 1000s of people. It's not code for anything. ============== Yes, it is. Especially when you keep saying it, despite the fact that it isn't so. How much is a lot of donuts? 1000? Only a nut like you thinks "a lot" means 1000s! ======================= LOL Nope, you're the one that keeps talking about a lot, and the 1000s of people that are shot in the US. 1) I have talked about "a lot." This does not mean 1000s. ===================== Youn are the one talking about 1000s... I'm talking about a lot of things. But not once have a talked about one person shooting 1000s of people. ================= Nice strawman fool. That's not a "strawman." ============== Yes, it is. No, it isn't. Straw Man is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. ================= Which is exactly what you have been doing. Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both. You made the claim that my reference to assault weapons being able to kill "a lot of people quickly" was "code" for saying that there are individuals using "assault weapons to kill 1000s of people." Thus one could argue that you yourself were making a Straw Man argument, since you ignored my actual position and substituted a distorred, exaggerated, and mispreprsented version of that position. But my own response - that I never claimed individuals were using assault weapons to kill 100s of people - is totally valid, and in no way constitutes a Straw Man argument. ======================= Yes, it does tha way you have presented you spews... Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both. i never said you claimed one person did. You keep talking about all these mythical crack dealers on every corner, buying guns at all these mythical corner gun stores, and then mythically killing all these people in the park. You do realize how ignorant you are, don't you? You do realize I posted an example from Detroit that pointed directly to this exact situation (unlike you, I am not a liar and a coward who makes claims and doesn't back them up). ===================== ================= LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find out the facts... You are a liar and a coward. ================= LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims.... Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both. Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that you are in fact a liar, coward, or both. And you do realize that Detroit is not the only place in the US that has drug dealers that shoot people with assault weapons, right? Right? 2) I have also talked about the FACT that more than 30000 people die from guns in the US each year. ================ There you go. See, I knew you'd remember sooner or later. Now, put you fantasies together and make them all crack dealers shooting up parks... You are pathetic. ====================== Thanks for proving you have nothing, fool. I have everything I've claimed to have. ============== Which is nothing, thanks for the admission, fool... Read again. I posted information exactly as you requested. Do the same, unless you want to remain a liar and a coward. Although I suspect that's an identity your are comfortable with. ================= LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims.... Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both. Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that you are in fact a liar, coward, or both. Again, fortunatly you are not the arbiter of what is or is not needed. You really have no clue about weapons, do you, fool? I know that an assault rifle is designed to kill a lot of people quickly. ===================== No, you don't. Try learning a little more. Many assault weapons calibers are very intermediate cartridges, designed to wound rather than kill. Oh, great! ===================== What, more ignorance on your part? You really don't know anything about guns except what your brainwashing has taught you, do you? Hm. Well, if brainwashing = fanaticism, you should hear yourself. You really sound...well...crazy. ================== from the head loony? hanks fool... What are my loony beliefs? ================== That no one is waiting for treatment in canadas health care system as a start. Liar. I never said any such thing. Someone is waiting right now. So is someone in the United States. It is impossible to have a health care system where no one is ever waiting. I've waited for US health care myself. You are claiming that people in Canada are dying in wait lines for health care. You can't prove it because you are wrong. You know you are wrong, but you are too much of a coward to admit it. then add anything else you have spewed about here all week... I'm still waiting for you to name just one of my "loony beliefs." Hint: in order to identify one of my beliefs, you will need to use something I've actually, said, and then make your argument as to why it is loony. ================== anything else you have spewed about here all week... Name one. Or are you going to be consistent and be a liar and a coward on this issue as well? ==================== Anything you open your mouth about, like Canadians never waiting for treatment. I never said that. Every health care system requires that people wait. Big lie there fool... Never said it. Prove that I did. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both. Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that you are in fact a liar, coward, or both. There are many weapons that have far greater chance of killing than assualt weapons. Can any weapon kill? Sure, even a slingshot, but they don't kill just because they "look" mean. You really are a hoot. A laugh a minute. I'll amend: I know that an assault rifle is designed to put a lot of bullets into a lot of people quickly. ==================== So can many other weapons. Good, get rid of those too. =============== Fortunately yiou don't get to make that call. Never said I do. That's why you'll find the statistics of 'assault weapon' use in crime pretty small. Again, tell the the difference between the operation of an assault weapon and others. I know that an assault rifle and many other weapons are designed to put a lot of bullets into a lot of people quickly. ================== Well a new tune!! Before it was only assault weapons that could do this. Tap, tap, tap... Never said that either. ============== yes, it was all you were spewing about. I never said it. =============== Yes, it's what you've been spewing... Prove it, liar. Or are you too big of a coward to admit that yet again you are wrong? ================= LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims.... Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both. Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that you are in fact a liar, coward, or both. trying to pretend that you cared by spewing about a rare occurance by 'assault weapons' I care about all deaths. ============= No you don't, you've proven that with your head in the sand routine about wait lines in Canada. I would care deeply if it were happening. But it isn't. ============== Yes, it is liar. Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both. Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that you are in fact a liar, coward, or both. the proof that your caring is just ideological delusion is that you are spewing not a bit about things that cause far more death and suffering in the world. Like health care wait lines.... I am very concerned about death and suffering in the word, including problems with health care. For example, in the United States more than 886,000 deaths could have been prevented from 1991 to 2000 if African Americans had received the same care as whites, according to an analysis in the December issue of the American Journal of Public Health. That's pretty sad. ============== LOL Thanks for proving yet again your jingoistic chest thumping. Sorry, it has nothing to do with me. Go after the American Journal of Public Health. People in Canada die waithing for treatment Actually, they don't. ================== Yes,they do liar. You are the one afraid to open your eyes. Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both. Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that you are in fact a liar, coward, or both. , and all you can focus on is AK knockoffs in the US.. Oh yeah, tell us again how much you really care... Actually, I care about the 886,000 preventable deaths in the US, but I guess you don't, all you want to talk about is AK knockoffs. ================== ROTFLMAO What a hoot!! YOU have made them the cornerstone of your anti-US rhetoric fool. It's all you've been able to froth about all week on the subject. You've been the most interested in that than anyone. Thanks for proving your lies mean more than reason to you. What lies? Prove that I have lied. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both. Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that you are in fact a liar, coward, or both. Only selfish idiots or people who want to kill a lot of other people would be in favour of having such guns. ==================== Only fools would be in favor of curbing everyone elses rights... Rights are curbed all the time. Otherwise there would be no laws at all. It's a question of balance, and the need for some nut like you to have a weapon designed to kill a lot of people quickly does not outweight the public good...unless you are a nut. Which you are. ================== Says the head loony? No, the head loony says that only fools are in favor of curbing rights. That's you, rick. ================== ROTFLMAO ou really are that stupid, aren't you? Answer the question Rick, or are you going to be a coward on this issue as well? ================== Where? I have answered your stu[idity fool. Again, you are hiding from the facts with blind ideology. Tthanks again for proving your willful ignorance on even more subjects. You choose to be a coward, as expected. Are you in favour of the elimination of all laws? Yes or no? Yes or no, coward. |
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