"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 6:20 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
You are a liar and a coward.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts...

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....

As to lying, you're the only one that has lied here, fool...

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 6:20 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
You are a liar and a coward.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance.

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article t,
rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 6:21 AM:


=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance.

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 6:21 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 2/26/05 9:11 PM:

.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance.

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 6:21 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
You are a liar and a coward.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance.

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 6:22 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
You are a liar and a coward.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....




Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.
==================
You're continued lying about providing posts is hilarious fool.
I did provide sites that backed up my claims. You haven't
refuted my claims. You can't, so you spew your willful ignorance
instead.

KMAN wrote:
in article ,
Tinkerntom
at wrote on 2/27/05 2:39 PM:


KMAN wrote:
in article ,
Tinkerntom
at wrote on 2/27/05 4:44 AM:


KMAN wrote:
in article
,
Tinkerntom
at wrote on 2/27/05 3:26 AM:


KMAN wrote:
in article
,
Tinkerntom
at wrote on 2/26/05 6:58 PM:


BCITORGB wrote:
In case Scott doesn't like the NZ stats, here are some from
Australia...

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs2/hosb502tabs.xls

Homicides per 100,000 population - average per year 1998 to
2000

USA 5.87
New Zealand 2.28
Sweden 2.06
Australia 1.87
Canada 1.79
England & Wales 1.50
Netherlands 1.40
Germany 1.19
Denmark 1.00


So, for me, these statistics beg the question: WHY? Why is
the
muder
rate so much higher in the USA? Are there extenuating
factors?

Hmmm.....

[in the case of Canada we know, of course, that hundreds of
people
are
murdered every year by the state -- waiting in medical
treatment
lines
GRIN]

frtzw906

So frtwz, are you acknowledging on KMANs behalf that rick is
correct in
what he has been claiming? Now can we all move on? GRIN TnT

Tinkerntom, I'm actually surprised that a man of your high
moral
stands has
not jumped in to criticize rick for being a liar and a coward.
Why
is
that?

I learned in my bar fighting days, that if it's not my fight,
there
is
nothing gained by getting my nose broke! You and rick look to
be
having
a good dance, so I don't see no cause to cut in! TnT

You cut in all the time! Why be such a priss on this issue?

FYI, it's not just with me that rick is a liar and a coward. His
behavior is
rather universal on that note.

On Feb 13, at 6:21 I warned frtwz about engaging in a dialog with
rick,
and I have continued to do so on a number of ocassions. At that
time I
caught a little heat from r myself. But you have been around for
awhile, and I have observed this phenomenon between the two of
you
before. So you should know better!

Besides, on a lot of points, I probably would not necessarily
disagree
with the guy, I just try to be a little more civil in my
conversation.
Now he has been around for a lot longer than I so maybe he has
learned
something that I have yet to learn. However in the meantime I
will
just
watch and learn, he's a great teacher.

Of what?

More of how! How not to communicate, you don't get your message
through
very well with all this spitball shooting.

Do you think rick is interested in any messages?

He's not even interested in supporting any of his own statements.

I don't know, he has a nice website with nice stories and pictures, I
suppose there is a message there. I don't know him personally, so I
don't know what his credentials are for the current topic. I believe he
lives up there in your neck of the woods somewhere on this side of the
border. So he may have some personal experience or ax to grind. As I
said before, last post, I have not bothered to find the contentious
post by either of you, and have tried to ignore this particular part of
the thread. Not my responsibility to certify the post of anyone but
myself.



As far as cutting in all the time, I only cut in when I choose to
cut
in, and sometimes I choose to not cut in, specially when I stand
to
get
my toes stepped on. The music you guys have been dancing to is
really
bad, and your moves are pretty ugly, but if yu are enjoying it,
carry
on. Don't let me interfere! TnT

How so?

Well I am not the one getting hit by the spitballs!

And if you were, you probably wouldn't know!

No I usually know, and I have sensed some zinging around, but I've
learned to duck most of the time.

Rick is claiming that Canadians are dying in waiting lines for
health
care,
but he refuses to support his claim, and worse, says that he has
done
so,
when everyone can see that he hasn't.

That makes him a liar and a coward Tinkerntom, and so to (cowards)
are all
those who cower in the closet, afraid that their "toes will get
stepped on."

I've had my nose broke a enough times to show that I am no coward

That sounds a bit more like foolish than brave :-D

It was not probably the smartest, but hey you don't get paid for being
smart!


and
I am certainly not cowering in my closet. I am here in the forum
ready
to discuss in a reasonable fashion what so ever I feel inclined to
discuss.

I basically don't know that much about the Canadian Medical System

Neither does rick.

So you say!

and
whether people are dying waiting in line, I have no personal
knowledge
to make any comments. I have been watching this converstion with
rick
to see if any substantial info would surface, and have yet to see
anything that I can really ruminate on from either side.

Well Tinkerntom, it's very simple. Rick has made the claim, and he
has
failed to support it. Do you agree?

I agree, that you claim, that he made the claim, and failed to support
it. No mystery here after watching this squabble for the last week!

And yet the
bottom line as I see it, is that it is your system, and if it works
for
you, that is your business. It would only become my business if
someone
tried to enforce the system or some variation here in the States,
which
Hillary tried, and at the time, the majority of the people decided
that
we preferred the existing system we already have.

But do you agree that rick has made a claim that he has failed to
support?

Ask, and answered!

The topic at hand is really quite irrlevant to the question.

Maybe, possibly, probably!

Now as far as r being a liar and a coward, I don't know. I came
back
refreshed from vacation to find you two carrying on. I don't know
when
or where it started, and mostly have tried to ignore your spat. I
have
not seen any point in getting involved, or of even going back and
trying to find the supposed and questioned post by either one of
you. I
have enough trouble keeping my post square as you well know from
our
previous experiences. I have been told back in the beginning by my
good
friends Wilko and riverman, not to say anything on the forum, that
you
would say to someone face to face. Now seeing that he is a gun nut
(your definition) and possibly walks around with his "Assault
weapon"
armed and ready, it might not be wise to walk up to him and call
him a
"liar and a coward." So then I find it most profitable to refraim
from
doing so here on the net as well.

But do you agree that rick has made a claim that he has failed to
support?

Ask, and answered!

C'mon Tinkerntom, what type of society are we to build here in
rec.boats.paddle if we are not to support the basic building
blocks
of
logical discussion? Shame on you!

Now if you wanted to continue a new thread about the advantages of
the
Canadian Health Care system, sometime in the future, maybe there
could
be a logical discussion, but I doubt that could happen at this time
in
this thread. There appears to be to much macho image at risk
between
the two of you. I will look forward to that discussion, and I hope
that
I am back on your list of reasonable non cowards! TnT

This is about basic integrity Tinkerntom. The topic is really a
subordinate
issue. It is no different than if rick were to claim that purple
kayaks
result in increased death rates.

But purple kayaks would be fun to paddle. I almost bought a purple
Perception Overflow, but ended up with a yellow one instead. I do have
a purple paddle shirt that look pretty nice with the yellow kayaK. And
Paddling is what this forum is about, and anything else is OT and
subject to no particular rules of dialog. If you don't like the dialog
or question the integrity of the debatee, you can always withdraw when
you are no longer having fun, or get scared, or freaked out, or have a
headache.

I don't personally want to see you leave, since I enjoy are chats so
much, but you can always just ignore r if he bothers you that much. You
should know by now that you are not likely going to convince him to
change, or be reasonable, or stay on message, or not be reduced to name
calling. And to think that you are going to achieve any sort of
integrity, maybe you have gone nuts. TnT

Weiser says:
==========
Crime statistics are quite easily compared and you are grasping at
straws in a vain attempt to bolster your failed argument.
======

Scott, you ought to tell the people in the NZ justice ministry about
this. In their report on crime, they say: "Differences in definitions
of violent crime make international comparisons problematic, and
account for at least some of the apparent differences in recorded
violent crime rates between countries."

Hey, but since you're the expert, I'll disregard the experts in NZ.

frtzw906

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 6:28 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 2/26/05 5:30 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick
at
wrote on 2/25/05 9:03 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...

"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...


snippage...



Whatever selfish but harmless reasons there might
be
for
desiring to own an
assault weapon, they can't possibly outweight the
benefits of
not having
them available to those who wish to kill a lot of
people
quickly.
========================
Where are all these people that wish to kill 'a
lot'(code for
1000s) of people?

"A lot" is NOT code for 1000s of people. It's not
code
for anything.
==============
Yes, it is. Especially when you keep saying it,
despite
the fact that it isn't so.

How much is a lot of donuts? 1000?

Only a nut like you thinks "a lot" means 1000s!
=======================
LOL Nope, you're the one that keeps talking about a
lot,
and the 1000s of people that are shot in the US.

1) I have talked about "a lot." This does not mean
1000s.
=====================
Youn are the one talking about 1000s...

I'm talking about a lot of things.

But not once have a talked about one person shooting
1000s
of
people.
=================
Nice strawman fool.

That's not a "strawman."
==============
Yes, it is.

No, it isn't.

Straw Man is committed when a person simply ignores a
person's
actual
position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or
misrepresented version
of that position.
=================

Which is exactly what you have been doing.

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....




You made the claim that my reference to assault weapons being
able to kill
"a lot of people quickly" was "code" for saying that there
are
individuals
using "assault weapons to kill 1000s of people."

Thus one could argue that you yourself were making a Straw
Man
argument,
since you ignored my actual position and substituted a
distorred,
exaggerated, and mispreprsented version of that position.

But my own response - that I never claimed individuals were
using assault
weapons to kill 100s of people - is totally valid, and in no
way constitutes
a Straw Man argument.
=======================
Yes, it does tha way you have presented you spews...

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....





i never said you claimed one person did.
You keep talking about all these mythical crack dealers on
every
corner, buying guns at all these mythical corner gun
stores,
and
then mythically killing all these people in the park. You
do
realize how ignorant you are, don't you?

You do realize I posted an example from Detroit that
pointed
directly to
this exact situation (unlike you, I am not a liar and a
coward
who makes
claims and doesn't back them up).
=====================
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to
find
out the facts...

You are a liar and a coward.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....



Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.

================
Willful ignorance on your part, fool.



And you do realize that Detroit is not the
only place in the US that has drug dealers that shoot
people
with assault
weapons, right?


Right?

2) I have also talked about the FACT that more than
30000
people die from guns in the US each year.
================
There you go. See, I knew you'd remember sooner or
later.
Now, put you fantasies together and make them all crack
dealers shooting up parks...

You are pathetic.
======================
Thanks for proving you have nothing, fool.

I have everything I've claimed to have.
==============
Which is nothing, thanks for the admission, fool...

Read again. I posted information exactly as you requested.

Do the same, unless you want to remain a liar and a coward.
Although I
suspect that's an identity your are comfortable with.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....



Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.
====================
Willful ignorance on your part, fool.



Again, fortunatly you are not the arbiter of
what is or is not needed. You really have no clue
about
weapons,
do you, fool?

I know that an assault rifle is designed to kill a
lot
of
people quickly.
=====================
No, you don't. Try learning a little more. Many
assault
weapons calibers are very intermediate cartridges,
designed to wound rather than kill.

Oh, great!
=====================
What, more ignorance on your part? You really don't
know
anything about guns except what your brainwashing has
taught
you, do you?

Hm. Well, if brainwashing = fanaticism, you should hear
yourself. You really sound...well...crazy.
==================
from the head loony? hanks fool...

What are my loony beliefs?
==================
That no one is waiting for treatment in canadas health
care
system as a start.

Liar. I never said any such thing. Someone is waiting right
now. So is
someone in the United States. It is impossible to have a
health
care system
where no one is ever waiting. I've waited for US health
care
myself.

You are claiming that people in Canada are dying in wait
lines
for health
care. You can't prove it because you are wrong. You know
you
are wrong, but
you are too much of a coward to admit it.

then add anything else you have spewed about
here all week...

I'm still waiting for you to name just one of my "loony
beliefs." Hint: in
order to identify one of my beliefs, you will need to use
something I've
actually, said, and then make your argument as to why it is
loony.
==================
anything else you have spewed about here all week...

Name one.

Or are you going to be consistent and be a liar and a coward
on
this issue
as well?
====================
Anything you open your mouth about, like Canadians never
waiting
for treatment.

I never said that. Every health care system requires that
people wait.
==========================
Yes, you did liar. Do try to keep up with your own spews, dolt.


What part of your claim:
"...No one is waiting for treatment..." don't you undersatnd?
You said it fool, 2/20/2005


Big lie there fool...

Never said it. Prove that I did.
================
See above fool. You made the claim, liar.



If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both.

Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.
=========================
I have provided you whith references. Several in fact. That you
wish to remain willfully ignorant is your problem.






There are many weapons that have far greater chance
of
killing than assualt weapons. Can any weapon kill?
Sure,
even a slingshot, but they don't kill just because
they
"look" mean. You really are a hoot. A laugh a
minute.

I'll amend:

I know that an assault rifle is designed to put a lot
of
bullets into a lot of people quickly.
====================
So can many other weapons.

Good, get rid of those too.
===============
Fortunately yiou don't get to make that call.

Never said I do.


That's why you'll find the statistics of 'assault
weapon'
use in crime pretty small.
Again, tell the the difference between the operation
of
an
assault weapon and others.

I know that an assault rifle and many other weapons are
designed to put a lot of bullets into a lot of people
quickly.
==================
Well a new tune!! Before it was only assault weapons
that
could do this. Tap, tap, tap...

Never said that either.
==============
yes, it was all you were spewing about.

I never said it.
===============
Yes, it's what you've been spewing...

Prove it, liar.

Or are you too big of a coward to admit that yet again you
are
wrong?
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your
claims....



Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.




trying to pretend that
you cared by spewing about a rare occurance by 'assault
weapons'

I care about all deaths.
=============
No you don't, you've proven that with your head in the sand
routine about wait lines in Canada.

I would care deeply if it were happening. But it isn't.
==============
Yes, it is liar.

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your
claims....



Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.
==================
You're the proven liar fool.






the proof that your caring is just ideological delusion is
that
you are spewing not a bit about things that cause far more
death
and suffering in the world. Like health care wait
lines....

I am very concerned about death and suffering in the word,
including
problems with health care. For example, in the United
States
more than
886,000 deaths could have been prevented from 1991 to 2000
if
African
Americans had received the same care as whites, according
to
an
analysis in
the December issue of the American Journal of Public
Health.
That's pretty
sad.
==============
LOL Thanks for proving yet again your jingoistic chest
thumping.

Sorry, it has nothing to do with me. Go after the American
Journal of Public
Health.

People in Canada die waithing for treatment

Actually, they don't.
==================
Yes,they do liar. You are the one afraid to open your eyes.

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your
claims....



Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.



, and all you can
focus on is AK knockoffs in the US.. Oh yeah, tell us again
how
much you really care...

Actually, I care about the 886,000 preventable deaths in the
US, but I guess
you don't, all you want to talk about is AK knockoffs.
==================
ROTFLMAO What a hoot!! YOU have made them the cornerstone
of
your anti-US rhetoric fool. It's all you've been able to
froth
about all week on the subject.

You've been the most interested in that than anyone.
=====================
I love watching fools self-destruct with their ignorance.


Thanks for proving your lies mean
more than reason to you.

What lies? Prove that I have lied.
================
See above fool.


If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your
claims....



Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.

Only selfish idiots or people who want to kill a lot of
other
people would be in favour of having such guns.
====================
Only fools would be in favor of curbing everyone elses
rights...

Rights are curbed all the time. Otherwise there would be
no
laws at all. It's a question of balance, and the need for
some
nut like you to have a weapon designed to kill a lot of
people
quickly does not outweight the public good...unless you
are
a
nut. Which you are.
==================
Says the head loony?

No, the head loony says that only fools are in favor of
curbing
rights.
That's you, rick.
==================
ROTFLMAO ou really are that stupid, aren't you?

Answer the question Rick, or are you going to be a coward on
this issue as
well?
==================
Where? I have answered your stu[idity fool. Again, you are
hiding from the facts with blind ideology. Tthanks again for
proving your willful ignorance on even more subjects.

You choose to be a coward, as expected.
=====================
Nope. Unlike YOU, I have backed up my claims. You have yet to
refute anything I posted. Thanks again for proving you have
nothing but your ideological ignorance.



Are you in favour of the elimination of all laws? Yes or no?

Yes or no, coward.
=================
Laws against stupidity like yours should be kept...

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 6:32 AM:



snip...


The care has a purpose other than killing people. It gets
people from one
place to another. Perhaps you were not aware of that.
=====================
Guns have other purposes also, and yet they kill far far
fewer
people than cars.

What are the other purposes of assault weapons, and how do
those other
purposes compare in usefulness to cars?
====================
They don't need to copmare to cars, fool. hat's your little
bit
of whackiness, fool.

If you are using cars as a justification for assault weapons,
then you are
comparing the two, fool. LOL.
==========================
No fool. It is you that is trying to justify something based on
what YOU determine to be a need. You failed.



cigarettes

I'm all in favour of getting rid of cigarettes. In fact,
where
I live, you
can't smoke inside in any public building or place of
business.

Canadian health care system...

At least no one dies waiting for care.
================
Yes, they do, and I have posted the information that says
so.

Liar.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your
claims....



Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.
===============
Willful ignorance on you part...





You are too afraid to look because your ideology would take
a
beating.

I've looked. There's nothing there.
Yes, there is. I provided sites for you. You are the one
afraid
to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....


Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.

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LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your
claims....



Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.
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Willful ignorance on you part...






Perhaps you should look at the the United States where more
than 886,000
deaths could have been prevented from 1991 to 2000 if African
Americans had
received the same care as whites, according to an analysis in
the December
issue of the American Journal of Public Health.

Why are you focused on lying about Canadian health care when
hundreds of
thousands of people are dying unecessarily in your own
country?
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LOL I'm not focused on it, you seem to want to discuss the
lies
you have presented in your jingoistic spews.

I am not in any way affiliated with the American Journal of
Public Health.

You asre lying,
plain and simple. Butthen, your simple mind knows no
difference,
eh fool?

What am I lying about? Provde that I am lying,
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Already did. You lied about wait lines.



If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both.

=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your
claims....



Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.
===============
Willful ignorance on you part...






Lots of things kill far more people that
assault weapons. thanks for again proving your
ideological
brainwashing, fool...

Assault weapons are not needed in our communities.
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Many things aren't 'needed', fool. Usenet has no real
'need'
Overall, cars have no real 'need.' Swimming pools have no
real
'need.' "need" has nothing to do with it fool.

It has more to do with purpose than need. Good point.
Other than being used to
shoot a lot of bullets at a lot of people quickly, their
only
other use is
for selfish idiots who want to compensate for a small penis
by
having an
assault weapon in their "collection" and so they can dream
about being a
hero one day by blasting away at some other idiot with an
assault weapon.
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Nice spew, fool.... Too bad it's loony tooons time...

Ah, came a little (pun intended) too close to home on that
one!
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Nope, just laughing at your stupidity...

I don't think so. You are laughing to cover the pain.
======================
The pain is watching how stupid you are.



All you are focusing on are visual aspects of a gun,
the
operation is not any different that many other
weapons.

It is different than any type of weapon where a lot
of
ammunition can't be fired quickly.
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Now you ignorance is really taking over, isn't it?
There
are many other weapons not on the assault weaopn list
that
you like to spew about that fire just as fast, and
just
as
many projectiles.

I didn't say otherwise. Look again.
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I have, you only want to rant about the cause of the day
that
your ideology demands.

I'm not ranting at all.
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LOL Okay, lying....

What have a I lied about?
=====================
Anything you have spewed about this week...

Name one thing. Please quote the alleged lie, and provide
proof
that it is a
lie.
===========================
That Canadians don't wait for treatment in your health care
system.

You did not quote me.
======================
Yes, I did. see other posts for today... Here, want to see it
again?
"...No one is waiting for treatment..."



provided that proof already. Too bad for you, liar.

Quote the alleged lie and prove that it is a lie.
========================
Already did both, fool.



If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your
claims....


Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.
===============
Willful ignorance on your part...






Or are you yourself lying, and too big of a coward to admit
it?

Please quote something I have said and explain why it is a
lie.
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That Canadians do not wait for treatment

I never said this. You are lying.
======================
Yes, you did. Exactly that fool...

Post the reference.

If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your
claims....



Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.


much less die waiting

Canadians are not dying in waiting lines for health care. You
are lying.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your
claims....


Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.
===============
Willfully ignorant AND stupid... What a combination.





Again you porvw that you can't think for yourself,
but
rely on ignorance and sensationalism for your
ideology.

No idea what you are babbling about.
====================
Of course not, that would require some thoughts of
your
own,
and your brainwashing doesn't allow for that, does it?

If you mean someone brainwashed me into thinking that
30000+
people dying every year from guns is not a good thing,
you
are right.

But at least I am not a liar and a coward like you.
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LOL Looks like you should know all about being a
coward,
since you are the one afraid to look up the data I have
already presented, and told you where to look.

You have never provided any reference to prove your
allegation
that Canadians are dying in waiting lines for health
care.

You are a liar and a coward.
======================
LOL Looks like you should know all about being a coward,
since
you are the one afraid to look up the data I have already
presented, and told you where to look.

You haven't provided anything that proves that Canadians
are
dying in line
waiting for health care. Everyone knows you are a liar. But
you
are a
coward, too weak to admit that you are a liar.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to
find
out the facts...

You are a liar and a coward.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance,
and the fact that you have nothing to back up your claims....

Prove it. If you can't you are either a liar, a coward, or
both.
=================
LOL I provided sites for you. You are the one afraid to find
out the facts... Thanks again for proving your willful
ignorance, and the fact that you have nothing to back up your
claims....



Your refusal to respond by providing the references proves that
you are in
fact a liar, coward, or both.