On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:16:51 GMT, Peggie Hall wrote:

Chuck Tribolet wrote:
The problem is that there are a LOT of legit folks on yahoo.
I've had 16 legit e-mails from yahoo residents in the last two days.
So just blocking everybody on yahoo doesn't work.

So...it catches a few people who actually have yahoo addresses. But they
also have real email addresses...which they'll have to use if they want
to email me. IMO, the best way to kill off yahoo as the spammers'
favorite spoofed address is to make it impossible for anyone else to
use, forcing 'em to close it. If someone is determined to have a free
anonymous address, there are other services that offer free email
addresses...that don't attract 10% of the spammers that yahoo does.

I suspect those aren't actual Yahoo addresses. The spammers just want to put
something in the sender field.

Joe Parsosn


Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

I suspect those aren't actual Yahoo addresses. The spammers just want to put
something in the sender field.

Yup...and it seems that 90% of 'em choose Yahoo. Yahoo now controls my
ISP's email and news servers, but they can't even be bothered to try to
match up return addresses on incoming mail to their own servers against
their own account list. I'm happy to do my part to put their free email
out of business by blocking all of it, legit AND spoofed. The spoofed
ones aren't bounceable, but if enough people block everything from 'em,
people who do have real yahoo.com email addresses will start complaining
to that their email isn't getting through either.

If I had nothing better to do, I wouldn't block spam with spoofed yahoo
addresses, I'd forward every bit of it to yahoo and encourage everyone I
know to do the same. If everyone else is averaging the same 100+ a week
that I get, and were willing to do the same, that would clog up their
system so badly that it would amount to a denial of service
attack...which, since there'd be nothing illegal about it, MIGHT finally
force 'em to do whatever it takes to stop it.

There has to be a reason why yahoo is the most popular spoofed
address...I'd love to know what.


Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html




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Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 03:39:15 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:

snipped a bit

There has to be a reason why yahoo is the most popular spoofed
address...I'd love to know what.


Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html



The answer is simple, yahoo is one of the most well known of the
anonymous servers.

While you are wary, and annoyed, there are thousands, or hundreds of
thousands, of potential "targets" that may view the spam. Spammers
concentrate on spooging (or, "spoofing") the addresses of the most
common ISP's and servers. That way, they have the best chance of
getting you (them) to read it.

For those that block domains, they are still vulnerable, and may lose
"valid" correspondence by blocking an entire domain.
Regards,
noah

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