Harry, I gotta say this again until you understand it:

Most of the From: addresses in spam are complete bull****. Either they
are completely false, or they are someone who has ****ed off the spam
industry. There are lots of legit folks on juno, yahoo, etc., so you
are cutting off your nose to spite your face.

I used to do a variation on what you do. About once a month I'd
review recent spam, and blacklist the obvious IDs and ISPs, but
not blacklist the large ISPs (juno, yahoo, etc.) which were bound
to have a certain amount of "misuse". A year ago, this, plus a couple
of other simple rules were about 70 percent effective. By about
three months ago, it had dropped to 50% effective and the increasing
volume of spam (I get 150 a day) had greatly increased the amount
of work required to analyze it. I switched to Mozilla, and within a week
of training (which was less work than my analysis of that week would
have been), it was 95% effective.

Try Mozilla, turn on the spam filter, you'll like it, I guarantee it.


--
Chuck Tribolet

http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet

Silicon Valley: STILL the best day job in the world.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message ...
Backyard Renegade wrote:
But on the
other hand, the "blacklist" that Harry posted it useless. Attacking
the from field is not the way to go, you must go for the money.


My goal is to lower the amount of email spam I get. If I get more than a
couple of spams from an ISP, I blacklist it and the spam from that ISP
stops. Ergo, my method works. And I do check the filter log from time to
time to set what's in there. Lots of SPAM from such lovely irresponsible
sites as JUNO.


--
Email sent to is never read.

Peggie, that wouldn't work. The spamsters have taken to infecting peoples
computers with a virus that turns the computer into a very quiet robot
for the spamsters. That allows them to send huge volumes of
individual e-mails. A year and a half ago, a simple rule that said
"if I'm not in the "to:" list and it's not from a few mailing lists I'm on,
IT'S SPAM" was pretty effective. It's very ineffective now.

Furthermore, if it's sent BCC, the ISP doesn't get to see the other
senders and can't count them.

--
Chuck Tribolet

http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet

Silicon Valley: STILL the best day job in the world.


"Peggie Hall" wrote in message ...
The real solution IMO would be to require ISPs to block all incoming
email to more than 10 addresses from the same sender.

Actually, what's more likely is that some redneck is going to get
****ed off at what was sent to his kid, and track the SOB down
and blow him away. I don't agree with doing this, but I think
it's highly likely to happen.


--
Chuck Tribolet

http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet

Silicon Valley: STILL the best day job in the world.


"Peter W. Meek" wrote in message ...
On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:57:14 GMT, Peggie Hall
wrote:

The real solution IMO would be to require ISPs to block all incoming
email to more than 10 addresses from the same sender.

They already do something like that. The result is
"spam guns" that send spam in batches that don't trigger
those limits.

I support the death penalty for spammers.
Steal six million minutes from as many individuals
and I assert that society has the right to exact
those six million minutes from the life of the
spammer. Two or three batches and it's a death penalty.

Chuck Tribolet wrote:
Harry, I gotta say this again until you understand it:

Most of the From: addresses in spam are complete bull****. Either they
are completely false, or they are someone who has ****ed off the spam
industry.

Does that include spam from such domain names as fantasticoffers.com,
doodlebug.com, quakefest.com, slamdunk.com, spyvalues.com (all real,
btw)...other domains that include the words sex, special, bargain,
mortgage, offer, bargain, bingo, casino...and at least 100 others?

I don't think so...'cuz spam from senders using these return addresses
IS bounce-able, which means they're real. But if it does, I don't
care...because, whether they sent THIS spam or not, they're still
spammers...and deserve to buried under so much returned mail that their
servers explode.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Harry,
Let me help you out with a free service.

www.spamcop.net

Capt. Frank

Harry Krause wrote:
This week's list of EMAIL SPAMMERs. If your ISP is on this list, you
cannot send me EMAIL.






























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webrobot@*

Chuck Tribolet wrote:
Peggie, that wouldn't work. The spamsters have taken to infecting peoples
computers with a virus that turns the computer into a very quiet robot
for the spamsters.


Ok...but trust me, the technology DOES exist that would allow ISPs to
figure out to block spam before it gets to their users' mailboxes. It
will cost them $$ to develop it, which means it will prob'ly take
legislation to make 'em do it. And that's a real shame...'cuz that only
means that all the ISPs' talk about blocking spam is nothing more than
talk. Yahoo doesn't even block incoming spam from spammers using
spoofed Yahoo addresses...but how hard can it be to match return
addresses on incoming mail against your own bloomin' account list and
block all that doesn't match an existing account??

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

Chuck Tribolet wrote:
Harry, I gotta say this again until you understand it:

Most of the From: addresses in spam are complete bull****. Either they
are completely false, or they are someone who has ****ed off the spam
industry. There are lots of legit folks on juno, yahoo, etc., so you
are cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Chuck...no one I know uses the offending ISPs. If there were someone,
I'd either *except" them as a friend, in which case their email
would get through, or I'd set up a particular filter that would let them
pass.


Try Mozilla, turn on the spam filter, you'll like it, I guarantee it.

I use Mozilla. I'll try the spam filter.


--
Email sent to is never read.

Yes, there are some domain names that you can figure out are
spamsters. Unfortunately, they are a quickly shrinking fraction. A year ago,
that worked. It doesn't work today. Here's an analysis of the From:
in the I've received since about 11/26. The number on the left of spams
I've received that purported to be From: the domain on the right.
1977 spams in a couple of weeks. Do the math -- black listing doesn't
work. But try the Mozilla spam filter -- it really does.

I have not relationship to Mozilla other than being a VERY happy user.

210 yahoo.com
95 hotmail.com
87 msn.com
74 aol.com
33 co.uk
27 garlic.com
19 com.tw
18 bluerocketonline.com
18 juno.com
16 excite.com
15 dbhits.com
14 earthlink.net
14 yahoo.ca
13 hinet.net
13 lycos.com
13 mail.com
12 earthlink.com
12 tekmailer.com
12 zzn.com
11 ehdhd.com
11 emailbenefits.com
11 mindspring.com
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9 cpt0.us
9 email.com
9 netscape.com
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8 com.cn
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--
Chuck Tribolet

http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet

Silicon Valley: STILL the best day job in the world.


"Peggie Hall" wrote in message ...


Chuck Tribolet wrote:
Harry, I gotta say this again until you understand it:

Most of the From: addresses in spam are complete bull****. Either they
are completely false, or they are someone who has ****ed off the spam
industry.

Does that include spam from such domain names as fantasticoffers.com,
doodlebug.com, quakefest.com, slamdunk.com, spyvalues.com (all real,
btw)...other domains that include the words sex, special, bargain,
mortgage, offer, bargain, bingo, casino...and at least 100 others?

I don't think so...'cuz spam from senders using these return addresses
IS bounce-able, which means they're real. But if it does, I don't
care...because, whether they sent THIS spam or not, they're still
spammers...and deserve to buried under so much returned mail that their
servers explode.

Peggie
----------
Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

The technology exists, and is ALREADY developed. The problem is that it
costs (except for Mozilla). You may well be able to
buy the support from your ISP. One vendor to the ISPs is Brightmail (my employer
filters mail from the internet with it, and it works pretty well.) I could pay
my ISP $10 per month and they would filter it with Brightmail or something
similar, but the FREE filter built into Mozilla works REALLY well.

--
Chuck Tribolet

http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet

Silicon Valley: STILL the best day job in the world.


"Peggie Hall" wrote in message ...
Chuck Tribolet wrote:
Peggie, that wouldn't work. The spamsters have taken to infecting peoples
computers with a virus that turns the computer into a very quiet robot
for the spamsters.


Ok...but trust me, the technology DOES exist that would allow ISPs to
figure out to block spam before it gets to their users' mailboxes. It
will cost them $$ to develop it, which means it will prob'ly take
legislation to make 'em do it. And that's a real shame...'cuz that only
means that all the ISPs' talk about blocking spam is nothing more than
talk. Yahoo doesn't even block incoming spam from spammers using
spoofed Yahoo addresses...but how hard can it be to match return
addresses on incoming mail against your own bloomin' account list and
block all that doesn't match an existing account??

Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html

K9 is a great spamfilter, actually learns what you consider spam and you
considers good email. It goes way beyond white and black lists.

http://www.keir.net/k9.html

the only negative is it does not work with Hotmail and Yahoo.

"Chuck Tribolet" wrote in message
...
The technology exists, and is ALREADY developed. The problem is that it
costs (except for Mozilla). You may well be able to
buy the support from your ISP. One vendor to the ISPs is Brightmail (my
employer
filters mail from the internet with it, and it works pretty well.) I
could pay
my ISP $10 per month and they would filter it with Brightmail or something
similar, but the FREE filter built into Mozilla works REALLY well.

--
Chuck Tribolet

http://www.almaden.ibm.com/cs/people/triblet

Silicon Valley: STILL the best day job in the world.


"Peggie Hall" wrote in message
...
Chuck Tribolet wrote:
Peggie, that wouldn't work. The spamsters have taken to infecting
peoples
computers with a virus that turns the computer into a very quiet robot
for the spamsters.


Ok...but trust me, the technology DOES exist that would allow ISPs to
figure out to block spam before it gets to their users' mailboxes. It
will cost them $$ to develop it, which means it will prob'ly take
legislation to make 'em do it. And that's a real shame...'cuz that only
means that all the ISPs' talk about blocking spam is nothing more than
talk. Yahoo doesn't even block incoming spam from spammers using
spoofed Yahoo addresses...but how hard can it be to match return
addresses on incoming mail against your own bloomin' account list and
block all that doesn't match an existing account??

Peggie
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Peggie Hall
Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
http://shop.sailboatowners.com/detai...=400&group=327

http://www.seaworthy.com/html/get_ri...oat_odors.html