True North wrote:
Good point Tim.
Not a lot of vehicles use high test today. Who knows how fresh it is in the big tanks. Maybe I'll ignore the dealers advice and use Stabil treated low octane.

More vehicles than ever use 92 Octane - is that what you mean by "high
test"?

True North wrote:
Put in about three quarters a tank of fresh high test mixed with Stabil. Running now with a load on it until it stops.
Disappointed it took about 7 or 8 pulls to start. Sounds like the older models start up on the 2nd pull.

Find some Avgas or, if they sell it there, REC-90.

True North wrote:
Put in about three quarters a tank of fresh high test mixed with Stabil.
Running now with a load on it until it stops.
Disappointed it took about 7 or 8 pulls to start. Sounds like the older
models start up on the 2nd pull.


My Yamaha would hardly start last year. Had to dip the carb, to remove all
the gunk from stale gas. And had not been that long since it was run.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 03:57:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

True North wrote:
Put in about three quarters a tank of fresh high test mixed with Stabil.
Running now with a load on it until it stops.
Disappointed it took about 7 or 8 pulls to start. Sounds like the older
models start up on the 2nd pull.


My Yamaha would hardly start last year. Had to dip the carb, to remove all
the gunk from stale gas. And had not been that long since it was run.

My generator wasn't ever started in about 15 years from the factory
but it fired right up when I put gas in it. I am hoping after running
on propane for 4 days after I ran the gas out, it will be the same.
I may drag a propane tank out and fire it up to be sure around July or
August.

wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 03:57:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

True North wrote:
Put in about three quarters a tank of fresh high test mixed with Stabil.
Running now with a load on it until it stops.
Disappointed it took about 7 or 8 pulls to start. Sounds like the older
models start up on the 2nd pull.


My Yamaha would hardly start last year. Had to dip the carb, to remove all
the gunk from stale gas. And had not been that long since it was run.

My generator wasn't ever started in about 15 years from the factory
but it fired right up when I put gas in it. I am hoping after running
on propane for 4 days after I ran the gas out, it will be the same.
I may drag a propane tank out and fire it up to be sure around July or
August.


I think I did not run out the carb when I stored it away was the main
problem. Seems to start easy now, but I turn off the tank and let it burn
up the carb gas.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 05:37:41 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 03:57:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

True North wrote:
Put in about three quarters a tank of fresh high test mixed with Stabil.
Running now with a load on it until it stops.
Disappointed it took about 7 or 8 pulls to start. Sounds like the older
models start up on the 2nd pull.


My Yamaha would hardly start last year. Had to dip the carb, to remove all
the gunk from stale gas. And had not been that long since it was run.

My generator wasn't ever started in about 15 years from the factory
but it fired right up when I put gas in it. I am hoping after running
on propane for 4 days after I ran the gas out, it will be the same.
I may drag a propane tank out and fire it up to be sure around July or
August.


I think I did not run out the carb when I stored it away was the main
problem. Seems to start easy now, but I turn off the tank and let it burn
up the carb gas.

It is usually a good idea to loosen that bolt on the bottom of the
bowl to let the rest drip out. That also gets rid of any water that
may have accumulated if you are a fanatic about running Rec90.
Water is not really an issue with E10 as long as you keep the gas
turning over.
On my old trash pump I had the bottom of the float bowl rust out
because some water accumulated there.
JB Weld to the rescue!

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 03:57:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

True North wrote:
Put in about three quarters a tank of fresh high test mixed with Stabil.
Running now with a load on it until it stops.
Disappointed it took about 7 or 8 pulls to start. Sounds like the older
models start up on the 2nd pull.


My Yamaha would hardly start last year. Had to dip the carb, to remove all
the gunk from stale gas. And had not been that long since it was run.

How did you 'dip the carb'? One of these?

https://www.harborfreight.com/25-lit...ner-63256.html

I've got a chain saw that has been sitting for a few years.

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 03:57:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

True North wrote:
Put in about three quarters a tank of fresh high test mixed with Stabil.
Running now with a load on it until it stops.
Disappointed it took about 7 or 8 pulls to start. Sounds like the older
models start up on the 2nd pull.


My Yamaha would hardly start last year. Had to dip the carb, to remove all
the gunk from stale gas. And had not been that long since it was run.

How did you 'dip the carb'? One of these?

https://www.harborfreight.com/25-lit...ner-63256.html

I've got a chain saw that has been sitting for a few years.



https://www.amazon.com/Berryman-Prod...a-714363490952

There are cheaper sources. I think I got the last can at Walmart.com.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 18:14:43 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 03:57:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

True North wrote:
Put in about three quarters a tank of fresh high test mixed with Stabil.
Running now with a load on it until it stops.
Disappointed it took about 7 or 8 pulls to start. Sounds like the older
models start up on the 2nd pull.


My Yamaha would hardly start last year. Had to dip the carb, to remove all
the gunk from stale gas. And had not been that long since it was run.

How did you 'dip the carb'? One of these?

https://www.harborfreight.com/25-lit...ner-63256.html

I've got a chain saw that has been sitting for a few years.



https://www.amazon.com/Berryman-Prod...a-714363490952

There are cheaper sources. I think I got the last can at Walmart.com.

It is best if you know a guy with a "Hot Tank". Alas the last time I
knew one of those guys was in Maryland. That may be becoming more rare
as carburetors are tending to disappear.
Whatever they had in those tanks would take a gnarly old carb and make
it look brand new. It boiled out everything. A quick shot of air in
all the holes and a kit and it would be as good as new.
Without that I have never had much luck with carbs.
I am real happy I don't have that many in my life anymore and that you
can buy a new one for about what a kit costs. I think it was about
$25-30 for my pressure cleaner and that included a shut off valve that
the original didn't have, a filter and hoses.

On 2/13/19 2:42 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 18:14:43 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 03:57:49 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

True North wrote:
Put in about three quarters a tank of fresh high test mixed with Stabil.
Running now with a load on it until it stops.
Disappointed it took about 7 or 8 pulls to start. Sounds like the older
models start up on the 2nd pull.


My Yamaha would hardly start last year. Had to dip the carb, to remove all
the gunk from stale gas. And had not been that long since it was run.

How did you 'dip the carb'? One of these?

https://www.harborfreight.com/25-lit...ner-63256.html

I've got a chain saw that has been sitting for a few years.



https://www.amazon.com/Berryman-Prod...a-714363490952

There are cheaper sources. I think I got the last can at Walmart.com.

It is best if you know a guy with a "Hot Tank". Alas the last time I
knew one of those guys was in Maryland. That may be becoming more rare
as carburetors are tending to disappear.
Whatever they had in those tanks would take a gnarly old carb and make
it look brand new. It boiled out everything. A quick shot of air in
all the holes and a kit and it would be as good as new.
Without that I have never had much luck with carbs.
I am real happy I don't have that many in my life anymore and that you
can buy a new one for about what a kit costs. I think it was about
$25-30 for my pressure cleaner and that included a shut off valve that
the original didn't have, a filter and hoses.


My dad had a tank "out back" for cleaning outboard parts that were
pretty much burned black with petrol residue and other substances. The
chemical he used was lye. He or his mechanics wore goggles and gloves
when messing with the stuff out behind the shop and I wasn't allowed
back there when this was happening.