Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the
components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.

===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. :-)


I would just use gravel. Maybe quarter dust. The small stuff that makes
great pathways. A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.

On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the
components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.

===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. :-)


I would just use gravel. Maybe quarter dust. The small stuff that makes
great pathways. A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.



We call that "stone dust" around here. You're right. It's available in
various colors and looks nice as walkways.

Mr. Luddite

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On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:Â*
A friend told me about this stuff:Â*
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Â*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyMÂ*
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Will try it.Â*
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I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.Â*
Didn't come in a bag though. Â*He had to glass vials with theÂ*
components in it. Â*He used it to put flotation foam on each endÂ*
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raftÂ*
we had in a small lake.Â*
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Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standingÂ*
water in the hole. Â*I seem to remember you commenting that there wasÂ*
water or the water table was very high or something.Â*
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Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. ProjectÂ*
is now postponed until nextÂ*
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.Â*
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John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. Â*I'd do it prettyÂ*
much the way Greg has suggested: Â*Mix up some concrete the usual wayÂ*
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete aroundÂ*
it. Â*The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottomÂ*
and push the water up until it overflows. Â*Check post for vertical,Â*
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. Â*After all it's justÂ*
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. Â*:-)Â*
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I would just use gravel. Â*Maybe quarter dust. Â*The small stuff that makesÂ*
great pathways. Â*A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplowÂ*
or idiot driver takes it out.Â*
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"We call that "stone dust" around here. Â*You're right. Â*It's available inÂ*
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.

On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite

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On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

Â*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. Â*He had to glass vials with the
components in it. Â*He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. Â*I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.

===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. Â*I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: Â*Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. Â*The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. Â*Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. Â*After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. Â*:-)


I would just use gravel. Â*Maybe quarter dust. Â*The small stuff that makes
great pathways. Â*A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.



"We call that "stone dust" around here. Â*You're right. Â*It's available in
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.



I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what
we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost
as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an
imprint of their shoes.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:50:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite

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On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

Â*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. Â*He had to glass vials with the
components in it. Â*He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. Â*I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.

===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. Â*I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: Â*Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. Â*The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. Â*Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. Â*After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. Â*:-)


I would just use gravel. Â*Maybe quarter dust. Â*The small stuff that makes
great pathways. Â*A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.



"We call that "stone dust" around here. Â*You're right. Â*It's available in
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.



I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what
we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost
as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an
imprint of their shoes.


Around here the go too rock is 57 stone. That is what they use any
time they are not using concrete or asphalt. If they roll it, you end
up with a very hard surface.
http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-485_large.jpg
It also does a great job on posts and such if you tamp it in every few
inches of lift. You just have to be sure you are keeping the post
plumb because you are not moving it later.

wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:50:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite

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On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

Â*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. Â*He had to glass vials with the
components in it. Â*He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. Â*I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.

===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. Â*I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: Â*Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. Â*The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. Â*Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. Â*After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. Â*:-)


I would just use gravel. Â*Maybe quarter dust. Â*The small stuff that makes
great pathways. Â*A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.



"We call that "stone dust" around here. Â*You're right. Â*It's available in
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.



I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what
we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost
as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an
imprint of their shoes.


Around here the go too rock is 57 stone. That is what they use any
time they are not using concrete or asphalt. If they roll it, you end
up with a very hard surface.
http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-485_large.jpg
It also does a great job on posts and such if you tamp it in every few
inches of lift. You just have to be sure you are keeping the post
plumb because you are not moving it later.


Quarter dust is smaller. Is a mixture, with the largest about a 1/4�.

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 03:31:30 -0000 (UTC), Bill
wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:50:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite

- hide quoted text -

On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

Â*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. Â*He had to glass vials with the
components in it. Â*He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. Â*I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.

===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. Â*I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: Â*Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. Â*The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. Â*Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. Â*After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. Â*:-)


I would just use gravel. Â*Maybe quarter dust. Â*The small stuff that makes
great pathways. Â*A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.



"We call that "stone dust" around here. Â*You're right. Â*It's available in
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.



I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what
we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost
as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an
imprint of their shoes.


Around here the go too rock is 57 stone. That is what they use any
time they are not using concrete or asphalt. If they roll it, you end
up with a very hard surface.
http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-485_large.jpg
It also does a great job on posts and such if you tamp it in every few
inches of lift. You just have to be sure you are keeping the post
plumb because you are not moving it later.


Quarter dust is smaller. Is a mixture, with the largest about a 1/4�.

We call that 89 stone.
http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-322_large.jpg
We use it around the flower beds

On 10/17/2018 10:58 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:50:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite

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On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

Â*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. Â*He had to glass vials with the
components in it. Â*He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. Â*I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.

===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. Â*I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: Â*Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. Â*The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. Â*Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. Â*After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. Â*:-)


I would just use gravel. Â*Maybe quarter dust. Â*The small stuff that makes
great pathways. Â*A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.



"We call that "stone dust" around here. Â*You're right. Â*It's available in
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.



I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what
we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost
as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an
imprint of their shoes.


Around here the go too rock is 57 stone. That is what they use any
time they are not using concrete or asphalt. If they roll it, you end
up with a very hard surface.
http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-485_large.jpg
It also does a great job on posts and such if you tamp it in every few
inches of lift. You just have to be sure you are keeping the post
plumb because you are not moving it later.



Much bigger and shaped than stone dust. The old farm house we owned
that my mother lived in did not have a paved driveway. It was gravel
and was likely the same age as the house which was built in 1800.

I didn't want to pave it but to clean it up a bit I used grey/blue
colored "pea stone" (about a 1/4 inch diameter on average) and, after
spreading it with the tractor I put a layer of stone dust on top of it.
In time with driving on it and with rain the stone dust filled in all
the spaces that existed in the loose pea stone and the surface became
very hard, not unlike asphalt but a much better "look" with the old house.

I remember that many of the unpaved roads in Florida where we lived were
made of crushed sea shells. That also packed down very hard over time.

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:13:23 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/17/2018 10:58 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:50:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite

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On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

Â*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. Â*He had to glass vials with the
components in it. Â*He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. Â*I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.

===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. Â*I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: Â*Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. Â*The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. Â*Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. Â*After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. Â*:-)


I would just use gravel. Â*Maybe quarter dust. Â*The small stuff that makes
great pathways. Â*A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.



"We call that "stone dust" around here. Â*You're right. Â*It's available in
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.



I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what
we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost
as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an
imprint of their shoes.


Around here the go too rock is 57 stone. That is what they use any
time they are not using concrete or asphalt. If they roll it, you end
up with a very hard surface.
http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-485_large.jpg
It also does a great job on posts and such if you tamp it in every few
inches of lift. You just have to be sure you are keeping the post
plumb because you are not moving it later.



Much bigger and shaped than stone dust. The old farm house we owned
that my mother lived in did not have a paved driveway. It was gravel
and was likely the same age as the house which was built in 1800.

I didn't want to pave it but to clean it up a bit I used grey/blue
colored "pea stone" (about a 1/4 inch diameter on average) and, after
spreading it with the tractor I put a layer of stone dust on top of it.
In time with driving on it and with rain the stone dust filled in all
the spaces that existed in the loose pea stone and the surface became
very hard, not unlike asphalt but a much better "look" with the old house.

I remember that many of the unpaved roads in Florida where we lived were
made of crushed sea shells. That also packed down very hard over time.


That is basically what all of the "rock" is here. Shell or fossil
coral. It is basically limestone but came from some living thing
thousands of years ago. Some places here are covered with 50' of sand
but a little ways away you will hit the coral rock a foot or two down.
In the first place my wife built houses they had to blast to get
through the rock to do anything. I made them about 60 permit board
stands with 120# of concrete because they couldn't dig deep enough to
set a pole.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Permit%20board%20stands.jpg

They all lived through Charley and none even fell over.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:50:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite

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On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the
components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.

===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-)


I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes
great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.



"We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.



I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what
we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost
as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an
imprint of their shoes.



Here it's sold as decomposed granite. Often used as an underlayer for brick patios or walkways.