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On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite

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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the
components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.

===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-)


I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes
great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.



"We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.



I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what
we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost
as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an
imprint of their shoes.


Around here the go too rock is 57 stone. That is what they use any
time they are not using concrete or asphalt. If they roll it, you end
up with a very hard surface.
http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-485_large.jpg
It also does a great job on posts and such if you tamp it in every few
inches of lift. You just have to be sure you are keeping the post
plumb because you are not moving it later.
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On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 7:59:42 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/17/18 8:56 PM, Tim wrote:
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Well, the Army got the "sap" part right for Herring.

Even a liberal arts grad like me knows how to set a post...

............

But can you disarm a land mine or clear an enemy tunnel?


Why would I want to? I don't encounter either in my wanderings in the 50
states or where I go abroad these days.


Well, can you? A simple yes or no will suffice
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:50:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite

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On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the
components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.

===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-)


I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes
great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.



"We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.



I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what
we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost
as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an
imprint of their shoes.


Around here the go too rock is 57 stone. That is what they use any
time they are not using concrete or asphalt. If they roll it, you end
up with a very hard surface.
http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-485_large.jpg
It also does a great job on posts and such if you tamp it in every few
inches of lift. You just have to be sure you are keeping the post
plumb because you are not moving it later.


Quarter dust is smaller. Is a mixture, with the largest about a 1/4”.

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True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite

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On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:*
Wayne.B wrote:*
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. *
wrote:*
*
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:*
*
On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:*
A friend told me about this stuff:*
*
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM*
*
Will try it.*
*
*
*
I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.*
Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the*
components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end*
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft*
we had in a small lake.*
*
Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing*
water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was*
water or the water table was very high or something.*
*
*
Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project*
is now postponed until next*
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.*
*
===*
*
John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty*
much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way*
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around*
it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom*
and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical,*
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just*
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-)*
*

*
I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes*
great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow*
or idiot driver takes it out.*
*



"We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in*
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.



Pea gravel seems to be round stuff. Stone dust / quarter dust is more
broken rock.

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On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 03:31:30 -0000 (UTC), Bill
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wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:50:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite

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On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the
components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.

===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-)


I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes
great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.



"We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.



I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what
we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost
as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an
imprint of their shoes.


Around here the go too rock is 57 stone. That is what they use any
time they are not using concrete or asphalt. If they roll it, you end
up with a very hard surface.
http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-485_large.jpg
It also does a great job on posts and such if you tamp it in every few
inches of lift. You just have to be sure you are keeping the post
plumb because you are not moving it later.


Quarter dust is smaller. Is a mixture, with the largest about a 1/4”.


We call that 89 stone.
http://www.gravelshop.com/shop-bilde...-322_large.jpg
We use it around the flower beds


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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 22:47:31 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/17/18 5:18 PM, Tim wrote:

1:39 PMKeyser Soze
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Crikey, a retired Army "engineer" can't figure out how to set a simple
mailbox post in the ground...too, too funny.
...........


Combat engineers dont plant mailboxes. Thats one of the last things on a sappers mind.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapper


Well, the Army got the "sap" part right for Herring.

Even a liberal arts grad like me knows how to set a post...


Yup, call up a handyman.


I think Harry has probably never set a post, especially in a hole filling with a couple gallons of
water in a couple hours. You're right, he'd most likely call a handyman.
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 18:57:49 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the
components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.


===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. :-)


Could be. I'll decide when we get back from the camping trip.
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 23:20:17 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the
components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.


===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. :-)


I would just use gravel. Maybe quarter dust. The small stuff that makes
great pathways. A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.


We've got six-inch curbs, so no fear of it being snow-plowed. But the mailbox is heavy. That's why I
want to be sure of the support. It's made from high-density polyethylene (HDPE), better known as
'poly-lumber'. Pretty heavy stuff when compared to a tin or plastic mailbox.

https://www.dutchcrafters.com/Amish-...ailbox/p/54986

Beautiful work on this thing.
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:50:30 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 9:30 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite

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On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the
components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.


Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project
is now postponed until next
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.

===

John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty
much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around
it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom
and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical,
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-)


I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes
great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow
or idiot driver takes it out.



"We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.



I never heard of crusher dust but it's probably the same thing as what
we call "stone dust". Over time it packs down hard and becomes almost
as hard as asphalt. Horses used to walk on it and barely made an
imprint of their shoes.



Here it's sold as decomposed granite. Often used as an underlayer for brick patios or walkways.
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On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 03:31:30 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite

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On 10/17/2018 7:20 PM, Bill wrote:*
Wayne.B wrote:*
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:54:57 -0400, John H. *
wrote:*
*
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:19:33 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:*
*
On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:*
A friend told me about this stuff:*
*
*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM*
*
Will try it.*
*
*
*
I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.*
Didn't come in a bag though. *He had to glass vials with the*
components in it. *He used it to put flotation foam on each end*
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft*
we had in a small lake.*
*
Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing*
water in the hole. *I seem to remember you commenting that there was*
water or the water table was very high or something.*
*
*
Yeah, like I told Greg - I'm going to let things dry up a bit. Project*
is now postponed until next*
week. We're going on a camping trip tomorrow.*
*
===*
*
John, I believe you're over thinking this thing. *I'd do it pretty*
much the way Greg has suggested: *Mix up some concrete the usual way*
with some sand and gravel; Insert post in ground; Pour concrete around*
it. *The concrete, being heavier than water, will sink to the bottom*
and push the water up until it overflows. *Check post for vertical,*
open a beer, and come back in a couple of hours. *After all it's just*
a mailbox, not a structural support for a high rise building. *:-)*
*
*
I would just use gravel. *Maybe quarter dust. *The small stuff that makes*
great pathways. *A heck of a lot easier to replace the post when a snowplow*
or idiot driver takes it out.*
*



"We call that "stone dust" around here. *You're right. *It's available in*
various colors and looks nice as walkways."


Same as crusher dust?
There's also pea gravel used on walkways. Believe it's a quarter of an inch in diameter.



Pea gravel seems to be round stuff. Stone dust / quarter dust is more
broken rock.


Yup.
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