Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/17/18 5:18 PM, Tim wrote:

1:39 PMKeyser Soze
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Crikey, a retired Army "engineer" can't figure out how to set a simple
mailbox post in the ground...too, too funny.
...........


Combat engineers don’t plant mailboxes. That’s one of the last things on a sappers mind.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapper


Well, the Army got the "sap" part right for Herring.

Even a liberal arts grad like me knows how to set a post...


Yup, call up a handyman.

Keyser Soze
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Well, the Army got the "sap" part right for Herring.

Even a liberal arts grad like me knows how to set a post...

.............

But can you disarm a land mine or clear an enemy tunnel?

So now you’re making fun of the French “saper “ from where the word came to combat engineers before WW1. “Shovel or “spade� where the word comes from.

Bad to scoff at brave men who do some of the most dangerous work in the armed service

“ Essayons�. Harry you should try it sometime.

( yes, you can look it up)

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:42:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A friend told me about this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.

I am not sure how that will work out with the water in the hole. It
will just float on top where the concrete sinks and displaces the
water. It does look like an interesting idea in a dry hole tho. It
also gives you an idea of the required compressive strength necessary
to hold a pole,. If styrofoam will do it, I can't imagine any concrete
mix that wouldn't even if it started with the consistency of tomato
soup.
I am also not sure why a can of spray foam would not do the same
thing.

On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:07:15 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:42:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A friend told me about this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.

I am not sure how that will work out with the water in the hole. It
will just float on top where the concrete sinks and displaces the
water. It does look like an interesting idea in a dry hole tho. It
also gives you an idea of the required compressive strength necessary
to hold a pole,. If styrofoam will do it, I can't imagine any concrete
mix that wouldn't even if it started with the consistency of tomato
soup.
I am also not sure why a can of spray foam would not do the same
thing.

I'm not sure John meant he'd try it on his current post, but maybe just that he would try it at some point?

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:25:50 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote:

On Wednesday, October 17, 2018 at 2:07:15 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:42:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A friend told me about this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.

I am not sure how that will work out with the water in the hole. It
will just float on top where the concrete sinks and displaces the
water. It does look like an interesting idea in a dry hole tho. It
also gives you an idea of the required compressive strength necessary
to hold a pole,. If styrofoam will do it, I can't imagine any concrete
mix that wouldn't even if it started with the consistency of tomato
soup.
I am also not sure why a can of spray foam would not do the same
thing.

I'm not sure John meant he'd try it on his current post, but maybe just that he would try it at some point?

No, I bought the stuff to try on this post. My friend said he did many of his fence posts with it,
and it works great.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 14:06:56 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:42:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A friend told me about this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.

I am not sure how that will work out with the water in the hole. It
will just float on top where the concrete sinks and displaces the
water. It does look like an interesting idea in a dry hole tho. It
also gives you an idea of the required compressive strength necessary
to hold a pole,. If styrofoam will do it, I can't imagine any concrete
mix that wouldn't even if it started with the consistency of tomato
soup.
I am also not sure why a can of spray foam would not do the same
thing.

Water has to come out. It's still flowing into the hole at the rate of about a gallon an hour. I'm
just going to let it sit for a few days and hope the water table goes down. Hell, we're on a hill!

The question would be - how many cans of spray foam? This stuff will more than fill the hole for
$9, and I have a few seconds to shift the post if it's not plumb.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:52:22 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 14:06:56 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:42:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A friend told me about this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.

I am not sure how that will work out with the water in the hole. It
will just float on top where the concrete sinks and displaces the
water. It does look like an interesting idea in a dry hole tho. It
also gives you an idea of the required compressive strength necessary
to hold a pole,. If styrofoam will do it, I can't imagine any concrete
mix that wouldn't even if it started with the consistency of tomato
soup.
I am also not sure why a can of spray foam would not do the same
thing.

Water has to come out. It's still flowing into the hole at the rate of about a gallon an hour. I'm
just going to let it sit for a few days and hope the water table goes down. Hell, we're on a hill!

The question would be - how many cans of spray foam? This stuff will more than fill the hole for
$9, and I have a few seconds to shift the post if it's not plumb.

There is a bunch of foam in a yellow and red can. The blue can stuff
is limited "foaming". I bet one can would do it. I still say, just
dump the concrete in there, the water will come right out. That pole
in the center had 4' of water in it.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 22:31:13 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:52:22 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 14:06:56 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:42:11 -0400, John H.
wrote:

A friend told me about this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.

I am not sure how that will work out with the water in the hole. It
will just float on top where the concrete sinks and displaces the
water. It does look like an interesting idea in a dry hole tho. It
also gives you an idea of the required compressive strength necessary
to hold a pole,. If styrofoam will do it, I can't imagine any concrete
mix that wouldn't even if it started with the consistency of tomato
soup.
I am also not sure why a can of spray foam would not do the same
thing.

Water has to come out. It's still flowing into the hole at the rate of about a gallon an hour. I'm
just going to let it sit for a few days and hope the water table goes down. Hell, we're on a hill!

The question would be - how many cans of spray foam? This stuff will more than fill the hole for
$9, and I have a few seconds to shift the post if it's not plumb.

There is a bunch of foam in a yellow and red can. The blue can stuff
is limited "foaming". I bet one can would do it. I still say, just
dump the concrete in there, the water will come right out. That pole
in the center had 4' of water in it.

We'll see what the hole looks like in four days. I may yet go with the sacrete. This new stuff looks
like it could be explosive if things aren't done to the second!

On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the
components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/17/2018 1:42 PM, John H. wrote:
A friend told me about this stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uaIVIUVOyM

Will try it.



I remember my dad using stuff like that back when I was just a kid.
Didn't come in a bag though. He had to glass vials with the
components in it. He used it to put flotation foam on each end
of a canoe and also between the rafters on the underside of a raft
we had in a small lake.

Only thing I noticed in the video is that there cannot be any standing
water in the hole. I seem to remember you commenting that there was
water or the water table was very high or something.




The foam stuff is handy. About 1967, friend got a contract with the navy
to raise a sunken barge at Midway or Wake Island, forget which. He had
never used the equipment, but talked to the vendor and got a class. Navy
shipped him and equipment island and the dispenser gun worked under water.
Filled the barge and refloated it.