Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

1:57 PMTrue North
Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

.....
If it can’t run with a space heater it’s surly not going to do a furnace or appliance. don, if they say it’s fixed, and when you go to pick it up, I’d light it up right in the parking lot like you did. If it dies out, let them know that’s unsatisfactory, call me when it’s done and don’t lie about it. Leave it right there in the parking lot, turn and walk away.....

On 3/15/2018 3:51 PM, Tim wrote:

1:57 PMTrue North
Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

....
If it can’t run with a space heater it’s surly not going to do a furnace or appliance. don, if they say it’s fixed, and when you go to pick it up, I’d light it up right in the parking lot like you did. If it dies out, let them know that’s unsatisfactory, call me when it’s done and don’t lie about it. Leave it right there in the parking lot, turn and walk away.....



I am thinking it may be the vent on the gas cap. Little lever you move
from "off" to "on". Should be moved to "on" while running.

It is spring loaded on the underside of the cap. It may be bad, not
allowing air to vent to tank. The fact that it ran for 15 minutes then
died and wouldn't start again makes me guess at this.

Can't imagine it suddenly getting "flooded" after 15 minutes of running
but I guess anything is possible.

On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 4:09:06 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2018 3:51 PM, Tim wrote:

1:57 PMTrue North
Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

....
If it can’t run with a space heater it’s surly not going to do a furnace or appliance. don, if they say it’s fixed, and when you go to pick it up, I’d light it up right in the parking lot like you did. If it dies out, let them know that’s unsatisfactory, call me when it’s done and don’t lie about it. Leave it right there in the parking lot, turn and walk away.....



I am thinking it may be the vent on the gas cap. Little lever you move
from "off" to "on". Should be moved to "on" while running.

It is spring loaded on the underside of the cap. It may be bad, not
allowing air to vent to tank. The fact that it ran for 15 minutes then
died and wouldn't start again makes me guess at this.

Can't imagine it suddenly getting "flooded" after 15 minutes of running
but I guess anything is possible.

Trash in the fuel? Clogged fuel filter or fuel pickup may be a possibility..

On 3/15/2018 5:07 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 4:09:06 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/15/2018 3:51 PM, Tim wrote:

1:57 PMTrue North
Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

....
If it can’t run with a space heater it’s surly not going to do a furnace or appliance. don, if they say it’s fixed, and when you go to pick it up, I’d light it up right in the parking lot like you did. If it dies out, let them know that’s unsatisfactory, call me when it’s done and don’t lie about it. Leave it right there in the parking lot, turn and walk away.....



I am thinking it may be the vent on the gas cap. Little lever you move
from "off" to "on". Should be moved to "on" while running.

It is spring loaded on the underside of the cap. It may be bad, not
allowing air to vent to tank. The fact that it ran for 15 minutes then
died and wouldn't start again makes me guess at this.

Can't imagine it suddenly getting "flooded" after 15 minutes of running
but I guess anything is possible.

Trash in the fuel? Clogged fuel filter or fuel pickup may be a possibility.



I don't know. We are speculating on any number of problems with a brand
new generator.

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:09:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/15/2018 3:51 PM, Tim wrote:

1:57 PMTrue North
Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may
have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

....
If it can’t run with a space heater it’s surly not going to do a furnace or appliance. don, if they say it’s fixed, and when you go to pick it up, I’d light it up right in the parking lot like you did. If it dies out, let them know that’s unsatisfactory, call me when it’s done and don’t lie about it. Leave it right there in
the parking lot, turn and walk away.....



I am thinking it may be the vent on the gas cap. Little lever you move
from "off" to "on". Should be moved to "on" while running.

It is spring loaded on the underside of the cap. It may be bad, not
allowing air to vent to tank. The fact that it ran for 15 minutes then
died and wouldn't start again makes me guess at this.

Can't imagine it suddenly getting "flooded" after 15 minutes of running
but I guess anything is possible.


A bad float or float needle will do that.

wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:09:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/15/2018 3:51 PM, Tim wrote:

1:57 PMTrue North
Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the
first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding
a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to
the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the
starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may
have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the
dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

....
If it can’t run with a space heater it’s surly not going to do a
furnace or appliance. don, if they say it’s fixed, and when you go to
pick it up, I’d light it up right in the parking lot like you did. If
it dies out, let them know that’s unsatisfactory, call me when it’s
done and don’t lie about it. Leave it right there in
the parking lot, turn and walk away.....



I am thinking it may be the vent on the gas cap. Little lever you move
from "off" to "on". Should be moved to "on" while running.

It is spring loaded on the underside of the cap. It may be bad, not
allowing air to vent to tank. The fact that it ran for 15 minutes then
died and wouldn't start again makes me guess at this.

Can't imagine it suddenly getting "flooded" after 15 minutes of running
but I guess anything is possible.


A bad float or float needle will do that.


I would try it again. Then if a failure, demand a replacement generator.
Not a repair. A replacement.

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:09:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/15/2018 3:51 PM, Tim wrote:

1:57 PMTrue North
Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

....
If it can’t run with a space heater it’s surly not going to do a furnace or appliance. don, if they say it’s fixed, and when you go to pick it up, I’d light it up right in the parking lot like you did. If it dies out, let them know that’s unsatisfactory, call me when it’s done and don’t lie about it. Leave it right there in the parking lot, turn and walk away.....



I am thinking it may be the vent on the gas cap. Little lever you move
from "off" to "on". Should be moved to "on" while running.

It is spring loaded on the underside of the cap. It may be bad, not
allowing air to vent to tank. The fact that it ran for 15 minutes then
died and wouldn't start again makes me guess at this.

Can't imagine it suddenly getting "flooded" after 15 minutes of running
but I guess anything is possible.


He could loosen the float bowl drain plug and see if there's fuel in the bowl. If it's full, then
the cap wouldn't be the problem, I'd think.

It sounds a lot more like fuel starvation than too much fuel.

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018 08:15:53 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 16:09:01 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/15/2018 3:51 PM, Tim wrote:

1:57 PMTrue North
Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim
may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

....
If it can’t run with a space heater it’s surly not going to do a furnace or appliance. don, if they say it’s fixed, and when you go to pick it up, I’d light it up right in the parking lot like you did. If it dies out, let them know that’s unsatisfactory, call me when it’s done and don’t lie about it. Leave it right there in
the parking lot, turn and walk away.....



I am thinking it may be the vent on the gas cap. Little lever you move
from "off" to "on". Should be moved to "on" while running.

It is spring loaded on the underside of the cap. It may be bad, not
allowing air to vent to tank. The fact that it ran for 15 minutes then
died and wouldn't start again makes me guess at this.

Can't imagine it suddenly getting "flooded" after 15 minutes of running
but I guess anything is possible.


He could loosen the float bowl drain plug and see if there's fuel in the bowl. If it's full, then
the cap wouldn't be the problem, I'd think.

It sounds a lot more like fuel starvation than too much fuel.

Just take the cap off, but Don said he was running it loose. If you
really want to break the tie, pull the plug as soon as it stalls and
see if it is wet or shows signs of running too rich. Usually if it is
really flooding at speed it will smoke or have a strong exhaust smell
of fuel.
I suppose it is possible that it is flooding tho, if the carburetor
float is bad, one way or the other, it could be a bad needle or it
could just be that they set the float level wrong. Is the generator
sitting flat? If you can figure where the hinge end of the float is
you could sit the generator at a bit of an angle to lower the hinge
and compensate for the float level being wrong (as a test). That all
assumes this is not a diaphragm carb.

True North wrote:
Came back from walking the dog and started the generator up on the first pill. Let it warm up gradually opening the choke and then adding a space heater at the 2md level of three as a load. Then switched to the Econo mode. Ran maybe 15 minutes and died. Tried two pulls on the starter cord but it was dead. Looks like Tim may have called it right. Something may be causing it to flood. Back to the dealer tomorrow morning and I'll insist they run it for up to an hour with a load on.

"pill"?

They don't teach punctuation in Canada?