True North wrote:
On Friday, 16 February 2018 21:39:51 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:12:06 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.
You'll do it. You fall for all of that sales BS.
Well, I do have 43700 kilometers on the odometer (roughly 27000 miles) and it will be 5 years old at the end of next month. Plus I like the new dash much better. Decisions...decisions.
Wife was working on me to trade in our Bayliner for a VR4...a full 18 feet long and wider. Comes with either a 200hp I/O or a 115 hp Mercury outboard. have to admit the 175BR squats a bit in the water with passengers in the rear jump seats and it's a bit more effort to get it up on plane compared to when there is only the two of us and our Springer Spaniel.
Everyone told you that boat was underpowered.
135 hp for a 17.5 foot boat?? Not likely.
We just need a bigger boat with more hp if we plan on carrying guests on a regular basis.

A 90HP outboard on that same boat would outperform the 135 I/O and
probably burn less fuel. Bayliner has offered under-powered boats for
as long as I can remember. They shoot for a price point and cut corners
wherever they can to make that happen.

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 20:44:15 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:08:03 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:12:06 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.
You'll do it. You fall for all of that sales BS.
Well, I do have 43700 kilometers on the odometer (roughly 27000 miles) and it will be 5 years old at the end of next month. Plus I like the new dash much better. Decisions...decisions.
Wife was working on me to trade in our Bayliner for a VR4...a full 18 feet long and wider. Comes with either a 200hp I/O or a 115 hp Mercury outboard. have to admit the 175BR squats a bit in the water with passengers in the rear jump seats and it's a bit more effort to get it up on plane compared to when there is only the two of us and our Springer Spaniel.
Well, can't say you weren't well advised.
He won't admit it. Harry, the Bayliner hater, kept quiet on that
purchase. You would think he would have helped his only friend.

Yup. Harry turned the advice into a 'personal attack' on Donnie. I suppose Donnie now thinks he can
get a wider boat in his driveway.

He'll need an additional wife to help him pull that off.

Bill wrote:
Alex wrote:
Bill wrote:
Alex wrote:
Bill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 2/15/18 2:36 PM, True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota
Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of
know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives
up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.

I got a 0% interest offer from Toyota when I got the Tacoma. No trade
necessary, though I did have a trade. I think there was also a $1000
cash incentive, but I don't recall for sure. The dealership tried to
sell me on a bunch of "add-on" accessories (such as undercoating" which
I turned down.

Most of those 0% deals are an OR deal. 0% financing or some bucks rebate.
California, we. Get screwed on rebates. You pay sales tax on the whole
deal. Before rebate. And the rebate is taxable. Just take the money
off the price!

That only works if the rebate is from the dealer. If it's from the
manufacturer, they have to make it a line item.


In California they tax the the sales price before rebates. Dealer or
manufacturer.

A dealer "rebate" is nothing more than a discount so it should be a
reduction in the sales price.

Should be. But we have pols who love to spend.

That sucks.

True North wrote:
On Saturday, 17 February 2018 10:24:33 UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:45:49 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Friday, 16 February 2018 21:39:51 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:12:06 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.
You'll do it. You fall for all of that sales BS.
Well, I do have 43700 kilometers on the odometer (roughly 27000 miles) and it will be 5 years old at the end of next month. Plus I like the new dash much better. Decisions...decisions.
Wife was working on me to trade in our Bayliner for a VR4...a full 18 feet long and wider. Comes with either a 200hp I/O or a 115 hp Mercury outboard. have to admit the 175BR squats a bit in the water with passengers in the rear jump seats and it's a bit more effort to get it up on plane compared to when there is only the two of us and our Springer Spaniel.
Everyone told you that boat was underpowered.
135 hp for a 17.5 foot boat?? Not likely.
We just need a bigger boat with more hp if we plan on carrying guests on a regular basis.
And everyone suggested the next size up. You whined that it was too wide for your driveway.

Remember?
It was and still is...maybe I need a wider driveway.


Don't you have marinas that offer on-trailer storage?

True North wrote:
On Saturday, 17 February 2018 10:23:28 UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 17:08:46 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Friday, 16 February 2018 15:52:38 UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:08:03 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:12:06 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.
You'll do it. You fall for all of that sales BS.
Well, I do have 43700 kilometers on the odometer (roughly 27000 miles) and it will be 5 years old at the end of next month. Plus I like the new dash much better. Decisions...decisions.
Wife was working on me to trade in our Bayliner for a VR4...a full 18 feet long and wider. Comes with either a 200hp I/O or a 115 hp Mercury outboard. have to admit the 175BR squats a bit in the water with passengers in the rear jump seats and it's a bit more effort to get it up on plane compared to when there is only the two of us and our Springer Spaniel.
Well, can't say you weren't well advised.
"Well advised" on what...my truck, my boat...??
What truck? You call your SUV a truck? Do you do so around truck owners?

You were well advised about the boat.
My my, JohnnyMop. You're getting ditzier than Ditzy.
It's Toyota (the manufacturer) who calls my Highlander a 'truck'. On my little pink insurance slip it's referred to as a 2013 Toyota Truck.
Maybe it doesn't fit the 'merican criteria for a big road hog belching gas or diesel fumes but it's rated as a truck.


Probably so they can gouge you for higher registration and insurance fees.

justan wrote:
John H. Wrote in message:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 20:44:15 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:08:03 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:12:06 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.
You'll do it. You fall for all of that sales BS.
Well, I do have 43700 kilometers on the odometer (roughly 27000 miles) and it will be 5 years old at the end of next month. Plus I like the new dash much better. Decisions...decisions.
Wife was working on me to trade in our Bayliner for a VR4...a full 18 feet long and wider. Comes with either a 200hp I/O or a 115 hp Mercury outboard. have to admit the 175BR squats a bit in the water with passengers in the rear jump seats and it's a bit more effort to get it up on plane compared to when there is only the two of us and our Springer Spaniel.
Well, can't say you weren't well advised.
He won't admit it. Harry, the Bayliner hater, kept quiet on that
purchase. You would think he would have helped his only friend.

Yup. Harry turned the advice into a 'personal attack' on Donnie. I suppose Donnie now thinks he can
get a wider boat in his driveway.

Funny how Fat Harry, who was the biggest Bay-liner basher, went
quiet when Donnie said he was buying one of those beginner boats.
A real friend wouldn't clam up when his buddy was about to make a
big mistake.


Dumb Don now alleges that the purchase was made prior to any posts
here. Some salesperson saw him coming a mile away - again.

True North Wrote in message:
On Saturday, 17 February 2018 10:24:33 UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 18:45:49 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Friday, 16 February 2018 21:39:51 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:12:06 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.
You'll do it. You fall for all of that sales BS.
Well, I do have 43700 kilometers on the odometer (roughly 27000 miles) and it will be 5 years old at the end of next month. Plus I like the new dash much better. Decisions...decisions.
Wife was working on me to trade in our Bayliner for a VR4...a full 18 feet long and wider. Comes with either a 200hp I/O or a 115 hp Mercury outboard. have to admit the 175BR squats a bit in the water with passengers in the rear jump seats and it's a bit more effort to get it up on plane compared to when there is only the two of us and our Springer Spaniel.

Everyone told you that boat was underpowered.

135 hp for a 17.5 foot boat?? Not likely.
We just need a bigger boat with more hp if we plan on carrying guests on a regular basis.

And everyone suggested the next size up. You whined that it was too wide for your driveway.

Remember?

It was and still is...maybe I need a wider driveway.


I looked on ebay for a driveway widener. Not a single one for
sale. I guess you are **** out of luck.
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Alex Wrote in message:
justan wrote:
John H. Wrote in message:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 20:44:15 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:08:03 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:12:06 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.
You'll do it. You fall for all of that sales BS.
Well, I do have 43700 kilometers on the odometer (roughly 27000 miles) and it will be 5 years old at the end of next month. Plus I like the new dash much better. Decisions...decisions.
Wife was working on me to trade in our Bayliner for a VR4...a full 18 feet long and wider. Comes with either a 200hp I/O or a 115 hp Mercury outboard. have to admit the 175BR squats a bit in the water with passengers in the rear jump seats and it's a bit more effort to get it up on plane compared to when there is only the two of us and our Springer Spaniel.
Well, can't say you weren't well advised.
He won't admit it. Harry, the Bayliner hater, kept quiet on that
purchase. You would think he would have helped his only friend.

Yup. Harry turned the advice into a 'personal attack' on Donnie. I suppose Donnie now thinks he can
get a wider boat in his driveway.

Funny how Fat Harry, who was the biggest Bay-liner basher, went
quiet when Donnie said he was buying one of those beginner boats.
A real friend wouldn't clam up when his buddy was about to make a
big mistake.


Dumb Don now alleges that the purchase was made prior to any posts
here. Some salesperson saw him coming a mile away - again.


Donnie gets himself in a lot of trouble believing salesmen
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Alex Wrote in message:
John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 20:44:15 -0500, Alex wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 11:08:03 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:12:06 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.
You'll do it. You fall for all of that sales BS.
Well, I do have 43700 kilometers on the odometer (roughly 27000 miles) and it will be 5 years old at the end of next month. Plus I like the new dash much better. Decisions...decisions.
Wife was working on me to trade in our Bayliner for a VR4...a full 18 feet long and wider. Comes with either a 200hp I/O or a 115 hp Mercury outboard. have to admit the 175BR squats a bit in the water with passengers in the rear jump seats and it's a bit more effort to get it up on plane compared to when there is only the two of us and our Springer Spaniel.
Well, can't say you weren't well advised.
He won't admit it. Harry, the Bayliner hater, kept quiet on that
purchase. You would think he would have helped his only friend.

Yup. Harry turned the advice into a 'personal attack' on Donnie. I suppose Donnie now thinks he can
get a wider boat in his driveway.

He'll need an additional wife to help him pull that off.


Maybe one of Fat Harry's ex wives is available.
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Alex Wrote in message:
True North wrote:
On Friday, 16 February 2018 21:39:51 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
On Thursday, 15 February 2018 21:12:06 UTC-4, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Received a letter from Toyota today.
It is an "Exclusive Upgrade Notification" with my very own "Personal Web Key".

Local dealer is apparently "the site for an exciting and unique Toyota Truck Upgrade Sale" which is only available to select clients.

I was wondering if I should contact and tell them that a handful of know-it-alls in wrecked.boats claim that my Highlander isn't a truck.

Anyway they are offering interest rates as low as 0%...cash incentives up to $4k and a special $2k trade-in voucher. Gotta make up my mind by Feb 26.
You'll do it. You fall for all of that sales BS.
Well, I do have 43700 kilometers on the odometer (roughly 27000 miles) and it will be 5 years old at the end of next month. Plus I like the new dash much better. Decisions...decisions.
Wife was working on me to trade in our Bayliner for a VR4...a full 18 feet long and wider. Comes with either a 200hp I/O or a 115 hp Mercury outboard. have to admit the 175BR squats a bit in the water with passengers in the rear jump seats and it's a bit more effort to get it up on plane compared to when there is only the two of us and our Springer Spaniel.
Everyone told you that boat was underpowered.
135 hp for a 17.5 foot boat?? Not likely.
We just need a bigger boat with more hp if we plan on carrying guests on a regular basis.

A 90HP outboard on that same boat would outperform the 135 I/O and
probably burn less fuel. Bayliner has offered under-powered boats for
as long as I can remember. They shoot for a price point and cut corners
wherever they can to make that happen.



They were selling those 17 foot Bay-liners at BJs wholesale clubs
a while ago. It's a perfect starter boat for someone who isn't
sure he wants to make a commitment to boating.
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