On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:50:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race�

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.


I have an ex-friend who told me he goes out to a field in southern
Maryland to shoot groundhogs and other small critters. Not critters
that are pestering any not really on a higher evolutionary scale than
"hooomans," but just living their little animal lives. Disgusting.

He was *your* friend. He was 'disgusting' only after he told you he went varmint hunting?

I am not sure I understand all varmint hunting but if they are really
there to limit the population of rodents because they have killed all
of the natural predators, it makes some sense.
Arizona's Senoran desert is an excellent example. They were diligent
in killing all of the rattlesnakes and now the rodents are destroying
the iconic century old Saguaro cactus. If guys want to sit in the
desert with their 5.5 Creedmores and pick off rats, good on them.

On 1/22/18 4:15 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:50:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race�

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.


I have an ex-friend who told me he goes out to a field in southern
Maryland to shoot groundhogs and other small critters. Not critters
that are pestering any not really on a higher evolutionary scale than
"hooomans," but just living their little animal lives. Disgusting.

He was *your* friend. He was 'disgusting' only after he told you he went varmint hunting?

I am not sure I understand all varmint hunting but if they are really
there to limit the population of rodents because they have killed all
of the natural predators, it makes some sense.
Arizona's Senoran desert is an excellent example. They were diligent
in killing all of the rattlesnakes and now the rodents are destroying
the iconic century old Saguaro cactus. If guys want to sit in the
desert with their 5.5 Creedmores and pick off rats, good on them.


I doubt my ex-friend was trying to re-establish the balance of nature.
He and his buddies went to a large field to shoot any small critters
they saw. I suppose he saw it as some sort of sport.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:32:37 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/22/18 4:15 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:50:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race�

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.


I have an ex-friend who told me he goes out to a field in southern
Maryland to shoot groundhogs and other small critters. Not critters
that are pestering any not really on a higher evolutionary scale than
"hooomans," but just living their little animal lives. Disgusting.

He was *your* friend. He was 'disgusting' only after he told you he went varmint hunting?

I am not sure I understand all varmint hunting but if they are really
there to limit the population of rodents because they have killed all
of the natural predators, it makes some sense.
Arizona's Senoran desert is an excellent example. They were diligent
in killing all of the rattlesnakes and now the rodents are destroying
the iconic century old Saguaro cactus. If guys want to sit in the
desert with their 5.5 Creedmores and pick off rats, good on them.


I doubt my ex-friend was trying to re-establish the balance of nature.
He and his buddies went to a large field to shoot any small critters
they saw. I suppose he saw it as some sort of sport.

We may be closer than usual in agreement here. There are places where
shooting varmints has a lot of value but that is not anything you see
and not everywhere you go.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 18:51:42 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:32:37 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/22/18 4:15 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:50:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race”

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.


I have an ex-friend who told me he goes out to a field in southern
Maryland to shoot groundhogs and other small critters. Not critters
that are pestering any not really on a higher evolutionary scale than
"hooomans," but just living their little animal lives. Disgusting.

He was *your* friend. He was 'disgusting' only after he told you he went varmint hunting?

I am not sure I understand all varmint hunting but if they are really
there to limit the population of rodents because they have killed all
of the natural predators, it makes some sense.
Arizona's Senoran desert is an excellent example. They were diligent
in killing all of the rattlesnakes and now the rodents are destroying
the iconic century old Saguaro cactus. If guys want to sit in the
desert with their 5.5 Creedmores and pick off rats, good on them.


I doubt my ex-friend was trying to re-establish the balance of nature.
He and his buddies went to a large field to shoot any small critters
they saw. I suppose he saw it as some sort of sport.

We may be closer than usual in agreement here. There are places where
shooting varmints has a lot of value but that is not anything you see
and not everywhere you go.

Given the existing law, Maryland appears to be one of those places.

Speaking of deer. While golfing last Thursday we noticed two new additions to a couple holes. In the
trees next to the fairways were hunters' deer stands. The deer population on the course was getting
quite large.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:19:55 -0500, John H
wrote:



Given the existing law, Maryland appears to be one of those places.

Speaking of deer. While golfing last Thursday we noticed two new additions to a couple holes. In the
trees next to the fairways were hunters' deer stands. The deer population on the course was getting
quite large.

I see deer just about every time I play in Tampa.
They are not really afraid of much
http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/Deer%20Family.jpg
At my wife's place they had these guys.
http://gfretwell.com/wildlife/Bobcat...%20through.jpg

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:15:48 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:50:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race”

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.


I have an ex-friend who told me he goes out to a field in southern
Maryland to shoot groundhogs and other small critters. Not critters
that are pestering any not really on a higher evolutionary scale than
"hooomans," but just living their little animal lives. Disgusting.

He was *your* friend. He was 'disgusting' only after he told you he went varmint hunting?

I am not sure I understand all varmint hunting but if they are really
there to limit the population of rodents because they have killed all
of the natural predators, it makes some sense.
Arizona's Senoran desert is an excellent example. They were diligent
in killing all of the rattlesnakes and now the rodents are destroying
the iconic century old Saguaro cactus. If guys want to sit in the
desert with their 5.5 Creedmores and pick off rats, good on them.

Groundhogs and nutria have become a nuisance ever since we did in the predators. Hunting them is
quite legal:

http://www.eregulations.com/maryland...ng/furbearers/

Nutria And Woodchuck
The nutria and woodchuck (groundhog) are classified as “unprotected mammals.” As such:

A hunting license is not required to hunt woodchucks and nutria except in Baltimore County.
Woodchucks and nutria may be hunted throughout the year, including Sundays.
Hunters must wear fluorescent orange while hunting woodchucks.
All hunting devices legal for other game animals may be used to hunt woodchucks and nutria.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:00:30 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:15:48 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:50:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race�

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.


I have an ex-friend who told me he goes out to a field in southern
Maryland to shoot groundhogs and other small critters. Not critters
that are pestering any not really on a higher evolutionary scale than
"hooomans," but just living their little animal lives. Disgusting.

He was *your* friend. He was 'disgusting' only after he told you he went varmint hunting?

I am not sure I understand all varmint hunting but if they are really
there to limit the population of rodents because they have killed all
of the natural predators, it makes some sense.
Arizona's Senoran desert is an excellent example. They were diligent
in killing all of the rattlesnakes and now the rodents are destroying
the iconic century old Saguaro cactus. If guys want to sit in the
desert with their 5.5 Creedmores and pick off rats, good on them.

Groundhogs and nutria have become a nuisance ever since we did in the predators. Hunting them is
quite legal:

http://www.eregulations.com/maryland...ng/furbearers/

Nutria And Woodchuck
The nutria and woodchuck (groundhog) are classified as “unprotected mammals.� As such:

A hunting license is not required to hunt woodchucks and nutria except in Baltimore County.
Woodchucks and nutria may be hunted throughout the year, including Sundays.
Hunters must wear fluorescent orange while hunting woodchucks.
All hunting devices legal for other game animals may be used to hunt woodchucks and nutria.

If that is actually what they are shooting, I agree it is helpful.
Harry is assuming they shoot everything that moves.
To be honest I never saw a wood chuck in Maryland and I didn't even
know you had nutria up there.
Of course deer were few and far between there over 40 years ago too.
(the last time I hunted)
Five years later I saw 2 on the Whitehurst freeway and 20 years later
they were thick at my ex wife's house in Clinton so it is clear things
are changing.

On 1/22/18 7:42 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:00:30 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:15:48 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:50:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race�

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.


I have an ex-friend who told me he goes out to a field in southern
Maryland to shoot groundhogs and other small critters. Not critters
that are pestering any not really on a higher evolutionary scale than
"hooomans," but just living their little animal lives. Disgusting.

He was *your* friend. He was 'disgusting' only after he told you he went varmint hunting?

I am not sure I understand all varmint hunting but if they are really
there to limit the population of rodents because they have killed all
of the natural predators, it makes some sense.
Arizona's Senoran desert is an excellent example. They were diligent
in killing all of the rattlesnakes and now the rodents are destroying
the iconic century old Saguaro cactus. If guys want to sit in the
desert with their 5.5 Creedmores and pick off rats, good on them.

Groundhogs and nutria have become a nuisance ever since we did in the predators. Hunting them is
quite legal:

http://www.eregulations.com/maryland...ng/furbearers/

Nutria And Woodchuck
The nutria and woodchuck (groundhog) are classified as “unprotected mammals.� As such:

A hunting license is not required to hunt woodchucks and nutria except in Baltimore County.
Woodchucks and nutria may be hunted throughout the year, including Sundays.
Hunters must wear fluorescent orange while hunting woodchucks.
All hunting devices legal for other game animals may be used to hunt woodchucks and nutria.

If that is actually what they are shooting, I agree it is helpful.
Harry is assuming they shoot everything that moves.
To be honest I never saw a wood chuck in Maryland and I didn't even
know you had nutria up there.
Of course deer were few and far between there over 40 years ago too.
(the last time I hunted)
Five years later I saw 2 on the Whitehurst freeway and 20 years later
they were thick at my ex wife's house in Clinton so it is clear things
are changing.


We have plenty of woodchucks, raccoons, foxes, squirrels, chipmunks,
opossums, deer, et cetera. I'm not sure about nutria.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 20:01:26 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/22/18 7:42 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:00:30 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:15:48 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:50:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race�

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.


I have an ex-friend who told me he goes out to a field in southern
Maryland to shoot groundhogs and other small critters. Not critters
that are pestering any not really on a higher evolutionary scale than
"hooomans," but just living their little animal lives. Disgusting.

He was *your* friend. He was 'disgusting' only after he told you he went varmint hunting?

I am not sure I understand all varmint hunting but if they are really
there to limit the population of rodents because they have killed all
of the natural predators, it makes some sense.
Arizona's Senoran desert is an excellent example. They were diligent
in killing all of the rattlesnakes and now the rodents are destroying
the iconic century old Saguaro cactus. If guys want to sit in the
desert with their 5.5 Creedmores and pick off rats, good on them.

Groundhogs and nutria have become a nuisance ever since we did in the predators. Hunting them is
quite legal:

http://www.eregulations.com/maryland...ng/furbearers/

Nutria And Woodchuck
The nutria and woodchuck (groundhog) are classified as “unprotected mammals.� As such:

A hunting license is not required to hunt woodchucks and nutria except in Baltimore County.
Woodchucks and nutria may be hunted throughout the year, including Sundays.
Hunters must wear fluorescent orange while hunting woodchucks.
All hunting devices legal for other game animals may be used to hunt woodchucks and nutria.

If that is actually what they are shooting, I agree it is helpful.
Harry is assuming they shoot everything that moves.
To be honest I never saw a wood chuck in Maryland and I didn't even
know you had nutria up there.
Of course deer were few and far between there over 40 years ago too.
(the last time I hunted)
Five years later I saw 2 on the Whitehurst freeway and 20 years later
they were thick at my ex wife's house in Clinton so it is clear things
are changing.


We have plenty of woodchucks, raccoons, foxes, squirrels, chipmunks,
opossums, deer, et cetera. I'm not sure about nutria.

The woodchucks are the ones I didn't see and deer used to be scarce 40
years ago. I did have the other ones you mention behind my house in
Clinton. I finally just gave up on the raccoons. I caught them and
drove them miles away but I think they beat me home. I suppose the
reality was, through the woods I was not really going that far away.
I just made a container for the trash cans. I have one here too. If
they can't knock the can over, they don't seem to be able to get in a
Brute can if the top is on tight but the trash men have trouble too.
The only thing I have killed here are rats, bugs and a water moccasin
that was going after my dog.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:42:20 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:00:30 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 16:15:48 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:50:41 -0500, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 12:42:24 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/22/18 12:35 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 06:59:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


8:50 AMKeyser Soze
- show quoted text -
Growing up on a dirt farm in Missouri and shooting squirrels for dinner
seems to make one a racist.
...

I guess so that is if squirrel is classsd as a “race”

Only the furry animals with the black eye shadow and a ringed tail.


I have an ex-friend who told me he goes out to a field in southern
Maryland to shoot groundhogs and other small critters. Not critters
that are pestering any not really on a higher evolutionary scale than
"hooomans," but just living their little animal lives. Disgusting.

He was *your* friend. He was 'disgusting' only after he told you he went varmint hunting?

I am not sure I understand all varmint hunting but if they are really
there to limit the population of rodents because they have killed all
of the natural predators, it makes some sense.
Arizona's Senoran desert is an excellent example. They were diligent
in killing all of the rattlesnakes and now the rodents are destroying
the iconic century old Saguaro cactus. If guys want to sit in the
desert with their 5.5 Creedmores and pick off rats, good on them.

Groundhogs and nutria have become a nuisance ever since we did in the predators. Hunting them is
quite legal:

http://www.eregulations.com/maryland...ng/furbearers/

Nutria And Woodchuck
The nutria and woodchuck (groundhog) are classified as “unprotected mammals.” As such:

A hunting license is not required to hunt woodchucks and nutria except in Baltimore County.
Woodchucks and nutria may be hunted throughout the year, including Sundays.
Hunters must wear fluorescent orange while hunting woodchucks.
All hunting devices legal for other game animals may be used to hunt woodchucks and nutria.

If that is actually what they are shooting, I agree it is helpful.
Harry is assuming they shoot everything that moves.
To be honest I never saw a wood chuck in Maryland and I didn't even
know you had nutria up there.
Of course deer were few and far between there over 40 years ago too.
(the last time I hunted)
Five years later I saw 2 on the Whitehurst freeway and 20 years later
they were thick at my ex wife's house in Clinton so it is clear things
are changing.

We camp down at Solomon's Island frequently, and the hogs have overrun the place. If I go for a walk
around the whole campground, I'll surely see three or four every time. This doesn't count all the
ones I don't see!