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Listen to the bible
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/19/17 3:57 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:41:03 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Pfffft. You Christians treat the bible like a cafeteria...believe this, pick that, ignore those...it's a handy document. Sort of like how liberals read the constitution. The Constitution can be interpreted, but how that is done is a matter of law. That's nothing like interpreting the bible. And depending on the politics of the courts, the same phase is multiple interpretations. |
#33
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On 12/19/2017 5:23 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:49:37 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/19/17 3:49 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:35:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/19/2017 12:41 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/19/17 12:36 PM, Tim wrote: 10:48 AMKeyser Soze On 12/19/17 9:00 AM, justan wrote: https://www.got questions.org/transsexualism-gender-identity-disor der.html Harry and Donny need to read this. Transexualism is not mentioned in the bible, **** for brains. ... https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/b...ransgenderism/ I like the first two paragraphs- Some would argue that the Bible says nothing about the explosion of the transgender phenomenon in the Western world. After all, there is no verse that says, Thou shalt not transition from a man to a woman. But neither are there any verses that talk explicitly about gun violence, anorexia, waterboarding, fossil fuels, vaccines, GMOs, HMOs, or Pokemon Go. We should not expect the Bible to speak in 21st century terms to every 21st-century eventuality. But that hardly means the Bible provides no guidance for Christians trying to make sense of our transgender moment. In fact, when it comes to transgenderism, the Bible actually has a lot to saynot by a prooftext here or there but by a rich and pervasive understanding of gender and sexual identity. Pfffft. You Christians treat the bible like a cafeteria...believe this, pick that, ignore those...it's a handy document. Transgenderism is an easy issue for you fellas. Yet you were the one who pointed out that transexualism is not mentioned in the Bible (with the added emphasis of "**** for brains"). Who's cherry picking it? === The bible does say to go forth and multiply, very difficult for the LGBTQ community. And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. Gays have several ways of conceiving and rearing children. === Your expertise regarding ignorance is profound indeed so I'll just have to take your word for it that gay couples can conceive children by themselves. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Never claimed that. Harry, you really should fully depress your clutch before you shift into reverse. |
#34
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On 12/19/17 6:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 12/19/2017 5:23 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:49:37 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/19/17 3:49 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:35:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/19/2017 12:41 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/19/17 12:36 PM, Tim wrote: 10:48 AMKeyser Soze On 12/19/17 9:00 AM, justan wrote: https://www.got questions.org/transsexualism-gender-identity-disor der.html Harry and Donny need to read this. Transexualism is not mentioned in the bible, **** for brains. ... https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/b...ransgenderism/ I like the first two paragraphs- Some would argue that the Bible says nothing about the explosion of the transgender phenomenon in the Western world. After all, there is no verse that says, Thou shalt not transition from a man to a woman. But neither are there any verses that talk explicitly about gun violence, anorexia, waterboarding, fossil fuels, vaccines, GMOs, HMOs, or Pokemon Go. We should not expect the Bible to speak in 21st century terms to every 21st-century eventuality. But that hardly means the Bible provides no guidance for Christians trying to make sense of our transgender moment. In fact, when it comes to transgenderism, the Bible actually has a lot to saynot by a prooftext here or there but by a rich and pervasive understanding of gender and sexual identity. Pfffft. You Christians treat the bible like a cafeteria...believe this, pick that, ignore those...it's a handy document. Transgenderism is an easy issue for you fellas. Yet you were the one who pointed out that transexualism is not mentioned in the Bible* (with the added emphasis of "**** for brains"). Who's cherry picking it? === The bible does say to go forth and multiply, very difficult for the LGBTQ community. And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. Gays have several ways of conceiving and rearing children. === Your expertise regarding ignorance is profound indeed so I'll just have to take your word for it that gay couples can conceive children by themselves. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Never claimed that. Harry, you really should fully depress your clutch before you shift into reverse. Perhaps if you were a more careful reader... A gay woman can conceive via artificial insemination. She can also conceive in the usual way, via sexual intercourse. That's two ways, and that isn't the limit. A gay guy can adopt a child. Or he can impregnate a woman the usual way. Or he can donate his sperm to a surrogate female. As I stated, "Gays have several ways..." Got it? Do you need a diagram? |
#35
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:50:42 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: Pfffft. You Christians treat the bible like a cafeteria...believe this, pick that, ignore those...it's a handy document. Sort of like how liberals read the constitution. The Constitution can be interpreted, but how that is done is a matter of law. That's nothing like interpreting the bible. How so? Nine people in black robes decide what the words mean in a huge leap of faith. You only have to look at the total reversals, like Dred Scott or Schenck to see that. That is not "a matter of law" as much as a sign of the times. It is no more so than how people take passages of the bible and bend them to their current beliefs. |
#36
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:52:45 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 12/19/17 4:36 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:04:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/19/2017 3:49 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:35:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/19/2017 12:41 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/19/17 12:36 PM, Tim wrote: 10:48 AMKeyser Soze On 12/19/17 9:00 AM, justan wrote: https://www.got questions.org/transsexualism-gender-identity-disor der.html Harry and Donny need to read this. Transexualism is not mentioned in the bible, **** for brains. ... https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/b...ransgenderism/ I like the first two paragraphs- “Some would argue that the Bible says nothing about the explosion of the transgender phenomenon in the Western world. After all, there is no verse that says, “Thou shalt not transition from a man to a woman.” But neither are there any verses that talk explicitly about gun violence, anorexia, waterboarding, fossil fuels, vaccines, GMOs, HMOs, or Pokemon Go. We should not expect the Bible to speak in 21st century terms to every 21st-century eventuality. But that hardly means the Bible provides no guidance for Christians trying to make sense of our transgender moment. In fact, when it comes to transgenderism, the Bible actually has a lot to say—not by a prooftext here or there but by a rich and pervasive understanding of gender and sexual identity.” Pfffft. You Christians treat the bible like a cafeteria...believe this, pick that, ignore those...it's a handy document. Transgenderism is an easy issue for you fellas. Yet you were the one who pointed out that transexualism is not mentioned in the Bible (with the added emphasis of "**** for brains"). Who's cherry picking it? === The bible does say to go forth and multiply, very difficult for the LGBTQ community. I don't know about that. Don't know how but they sure seem to be growing in population now-a-days. I do agree that some of it is just that more people feel comfortable coming out now. The gay people I knew in the 80s always said there were lots of deeply closeted people out there, simply afraid to come out. The most radical of them gave huge numbers for the percentages, way up in double digits. I just wrote it off as believing gay people think everyone else is gay. They just don't know it yet. We know a gay couple who just had a baby, the old fashioned way. Ergo, they went forth and multiplied. What is the "old fashioned way", Adultery? Turkey Baster? Was David Crosby involved? |
#37
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#38
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On Tuesday, December 19, 2017 at 7:08:55 PM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 12/19/17 6:13 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 12/19/2017 5:23 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:49:37 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/19/17 3:49 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:35:33 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 12/19/2017 12:41 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 12/19/17 12:36 PM, Tim wrote: 10:48 AMKeyser Soze On 12/19/17 9:00 AM, justan wrote: https://www.got questions.org/transsexualism-gender-identity-disor der.html Harry and Donny need to read this. Transexualism is not mentioned in the bible, **** for brains. ... https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/b...ransgenderism/ I like the first two paragraphs- “Some would argue that the Bible says nothing about the explosion of the transgender phenomenon in the Western world. After all, there is no verse that says, “Thou shalt not transition from a man to a woman.” But neither are there any verses that talk explicitly about gun violence, anorexia, waterboarding, fossil fuels, vaccines, GMOs, HMOs, or Pokemon Go. We should not expect the Bible to speak in 21st century terms to every 21st-century eventuality. But that hardly means the Bible provides no guidance for Christians trying to make sense of our transgender moment. In fact, when it comes to transgenderism, the Bible actually has a lot to say—not by a prooftext here or there but by a rich and pervasive understanding of gender and sexual identity.” Pfffft. You Christians treat the bible like a cafeteria...believe this, pick that, ignore those...it's a handy document. Transgenderism is an easy issue for you fellas. Yet you were the one who pointed out that transexualism is not mentioned in the Bible* (with the added emphasis of "**** for brains"). Who's cherry picking it? === The bible does say to go forth and multiply, very difficult for the LGBTQ community. And once again, you demonstrate your ignorance. Gays have several ways of conceiving and rearing children. === Your expertise regarding ignorance is profound indeed so I'll just have to take your word for it that gay couples can conceive children by themselves. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com Never claimed that. Harry, you really should fully depress your clutch before you shift into reverse. Perhaps if you were a more careful reader... A gay woman can conceive via artificial insemination. She can also conceive in the usual way, via sexual intercourse. That's two ways, and that isn't the limit. A gay guy can adopt a child. Or he can impregnate a woman the usual way. Or he can donate his sperm to a surrogate female. As I stated, "Gays have several ways..." Got it? Do you need a diagram? You said "Gays have several ways of conceiving..." All the ways you listed aren't "conceiving". Why would gay people conceive in the "usual" way if they were gay? Wouldn't that be "gross"? |
#39
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:52:45 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: - show quoted text - What is the "old fashioned way", Adultery? Turkey Baster? Was David Crosby involved? ..... HAHAHAHAHA!!!! |
#40
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 21:05:03 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote: On 12/19/17 8:28 PM, wrote: On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 16:50:42 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: Pfffft. You Christians treat the bible like a cafeteria...believe this, pick that, ignore those...it's a handy document. Sort of like how liberals read the constitution. The Constitution can be interpreted, but how that is done is a matter of law. That's nothing like interpreting the bible. How so? Nine people in black robes decide what the words mean in a huge leap of faith. You only have to look at the total reversals, like Dred Scott or Schenck to see that. That is not "a matter of law" as much as a sign of the times. It is no more so than how people take passages of the bible and bend them to their current beliefs. Wow! Never noticed that before? It is yet to be seen which decisions might be overturned when Trump gets to replace Ginsberg. (Bryer is getting pretty old too). If the 5-4s are a lock for "textualist" conservatives we may see lots of things being revisited. There have been plenty of things read into the constitution that are simply not there and things that have been ignored that are there. |
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