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Consumer Reports Annual Reliability Survey
Here are the '10 Least Reliable Cars' from the latest CR reliability survey. The least of the least
is at the bottom. Chevrolet Camaro Mercedes-Benz GLC Jaguar F-Pace GMC Acadia Fiat 500 Ford Focus Ford Fiesta Volvo XC90 Cadillac Escalade Tesla Model X All of these got 'one out of five' in the predicted reliability rating, based on the results of the owner surveys. Maybe folks are a bit more honest than we might think when it comes to rating their own cars. |
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Consumer Reports Annual Reliability Survey
On 10/26/2017 11:57 AM, John H wrote:
Here are the '10 Least Reliable Cars' from the latest CR reliability survey. The least of the least is at the bottom. Chevrolet Camaro Mercedes-Benz GLC Jaguar F-Pace GMC Acadia Fiat 500 Ford Focus Ford Fiesta Volvo XC90 Cadillac Escalade Tesla Model X All of these got 'one out of five' in the predicted reliability rating, based on the results of the owner surveys. Maybe folks are a bit more honest than we might think when it comes to rating their own cars. Maybe. But I think when people are asked to participate in a survey those who have had reliability problems are more likely to respond. Whenever I read or hear such results I remind myself of the millions of people driving around with no problems but no compulsion to complete a survey form, positive or negative. I probably get a request for a survey once a week from someone. Banks, stores, Amazon, Nissan (ha) and others. I delete them as fast as they arrive. |
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Consumer Reports Annual Reliability Survey
On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:18:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 10/26/2017 11:57 AM, John H wrote: Here are the '10 Least Reliable Cars' from the latest CR reliability survey. The least of the least is at the bottom. Chevrolet Camaro Mercedes-Benz GLC Jaguar F-Pace GMC Acadia Fiat 500 Ford Focus Ford Fiesta Volvo XC90 Cadillac Escalade Tesla Model X All of these got 'one out of five' in the predicted reliability rating, based on the results of the owner surveys. Maybe folks are a bit more honest than we might think when it comes to rating their own cars. Maybe. But I think when people are asked to participate in a survey those who have had reliability problems are more likely to respond. Whenever I read or hear such results I remind myself of the millions of people driving around with no problems but no compulsion to complete a survey form, positive or negative. I probably get a request for a survey once a week from someone. Banks, stores, Amazon, Nissan (ha) and others. I delete them as fast as they arrive. === I think the readers of Consumer Reports might be a little different in that respect. I've always been happy to rate our vehicles both good and bad. For the good ones it's a matter of giving credit where credit is due, and for the bad ones it can help to warn someone else, and possibly motivate the manufacturer to get their act together. There's no denying that the overall quality of Japanese cars forced Detroit to step up their game a notch or two, and Consumer Reports is one of the ways that the word got out. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On 10/26/2017 2:19 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 14:08:14 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/26/2017 1:01 PM, wrote: On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:18:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/26/2017 11:57 AM, John H wrote: Here are the '10 Least Reliable Cars' from the latest CR reliability survey. The least of the least is at the bottom. Chevrolet Camaro Mercedes-Benz GLC Jaguar F-Pace GMC Acadia Fiat 500 Ford Focus Ford Fiesta Volvo XC90 Cadillac Escalade Tesla Model X All of these got 'one out of five' in the predicted reliability rating, based on the results of the owner surveys. Maybe folks are a bit more honest than we might think when it comes to rating their own cars. Maybe. But I think when people are asked to participate in a survey those who have had reliability problems are more likely to respond. Whenever I read or hear such results I remind myself of the millions of people driving around with no problems but no compulsion to complete a survey form, positive or negative. I probably get a request for a survey once a week from someone. Banks, stores, Amazon, Nissan (ha) and others. I delete them as fast as they arrive. === I think the readers of Consumer Reports might be a little different in that respect. I've always been happy to rate our vehicles both good and bad. For the good ones it's a matter of giving credit where credit is due, and for the bad ones it can help to warn someone else, and possibly motivate the manufacturer to get their act together. There's no denying that the overall quality of Japanese cars forced Detroit to step up their game a notch or two, and Consumer Reports is one of the ways that the word got out. So, what happens when you respond to a survey, giving the manufacturer high grades of satisfaction and then, the next day, you discover it doesn't have any heat and you spend the next 2 months plus waiting for them to fix it without success? :-) Do you really think that Nissan was representative of the rest of them? What you do is...wait for the next survey. It will ask right off the bat if you still own the Nissan. I get a Nissan survey request weekly. I started to fill out the first one but stopped halfway through and didn't submit it. After I received a few more I "unsubscribed" from their mailing list. Didn't work. I still get them. Some surveys are probably beneficial, but I get annoyed with the ones from your bank, asking about your last bank visit experience to cash a check or make a deposit. And places like Dick's Sporting Goods. Buy pair of sneakers and they want to know all about your shopping experience. Most of these surveys are via a third party marketing companies and I really wonder if they have any benefit. |
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Consumer Reports Annual Reliability Survey
On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:01:17 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:18:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/26/2017 11:57 AM, John H wrote: Here are the '10 Least Reliable Cars' from the latest CR reliability survey. The least of the least is at the bottom. Chevrolet Camaro Mercedes-Benz GLC Jaguar F-Pace GMC Acadia Fiat 500 Ford Focus Ford Fiesta Volvo XC90 Cadillac Escalade Tesla Model X All of these got 'one out of five' in the predicted reliability rating, based on the results of the owner surveys. Maybe folks are a bit more honest than we might think when it comes to rating their own cars. Maybe. But I think when people are asked to participate in a survey those who have had reliability problems are more likely to respond. Whenever I read or hear such results I remind myself of the millions of people driving around with no problems but no compulsion to complete a survey form, positive or negative. I probably get a request for a survey once a week from someone. Banks, stores, Amazon, Nissan (ha) and others. I delete them as fast as they arrive. === I think the readers of Consumer Reports might be a little different in that respect. I've always been happy to rate our vehicles both good and bad. For the good ones it's a matter of giving credit where credit is due, and for the bad ones it can help to warn someone else, and possibly motivate the manufacturer to get their act together. There's no denying that the overall quality of Japanese cars forced Detroit to step up their game a notch or two, and Consumer Reports is one of the ways that the word got out. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com My rationale for bad comments is exactly as you describe. |
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Consumer Reports Annual Reliability Survey
On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:18:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/26/2017 11:57 AM, John H wrote: Here are the '10 Least Reliable Cars' from the latest CR reliability survey. The least of the least is at the bottom. Chevrolet Camaro Mercedes-Benz GLC Jaguar F-Pace GMC Acadia Fiat 500 Ford Focus Ford Fiesta Volvo XC90 Cadillac Escalade Tesla Model X All of these got 'one out of five' in the predicted reliability rating, based on the results of the owner surveys. Maybe folks are a bit more honest than we might think when it comes to rating their own cars. Maybe. But I think when people are asked to participate in a survey those who have had reliability problems are more likely to respond. Whenever I read or hear such results I remind myself of the millions of people driving around with no problems but no compulsion to complete a survey form, positive or negative. I probably get a request for a survey once a week from someone. Banks, stores, Amazon, Nissan (ha) and others. I delete them as fast as they arrive. Ditto on the requests. I do two a year. Both for CR. Not because I've had trouble with the items in question, which range from TVs, air conditioners, heaters, etc to automobiles, but just to help improve the reliability of their reliability ratings. Here are the top ten in the 'predicted reliability' category. In this case, the most reliable is on top: Kia Niro Subaru BRZ/Toyota 86 Lexus ES Lexus GS Audi Q3 Toyota RAV4 Lexus IS Toyota Prius V Toyota Prius C Infiniti Q70 All of these get a five out of five rating from their owners. It would be interesting to see if the response rate was bigger for those with problems than those without, thus backing up your thought. |
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Consumer Reports Annual Reliability Survey
On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 12:18:20 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 10/26/2017 11:57 AM, John H wrote: Here are the '10 Least Reliable Cars' from the latest CR reliability survey. The least of the least is at the bottom. Chevrolet Camaro Mercedes-Benz GLC Jaguar F-Pace GMC Acadia Fiat 500 Ford Focus Ford Fiesta Volvo XC90 Cadillac Escalade Tesla Model X All of these got 'one out of five' in the predicted reliability rating, based on the results of the owner surveys. Maybe folks are a bit more honest than we might think when it comes to rating their own cars. Maybe. But I think when people are asked to participate in a survey those who have had reliability problems are more likely to respond. Whenever I read or hear such results I remind myself of the millions of people driving around with no problems but no compulsion to complete a survey form, positive or negative. I probably get a request for a survey once a week from someone. Banks, stores, Amazon, Nissan (ha) and others. I delete them as fast as they arrive. I agree. I see polls the same way. They are more a reflection of the participant than the subject at hand. |
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Consumer Reports Annual Reliability Survey
On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 11:57:10 -0400, John H
wrote: Here are the '10 Least Reliable Cars' from the latest CR reliability survey. The least of the least is at the bottom. Chevrolet Camaro Mercedes-Benz GLC Jaguar F-Pace GMC Acadia Fiat 500 Ford Focus Ford Fiesta Volvo XC90 Cadillac Escalade Tesla Model X All of these got 'one out of five' in the predicted reliability rating, based on the results of the owner surveys. Maybe folks are a bit more honest than we might think when it comes to rating their own cars. I wonder if some of this is just that a guy who paid $70-100k for a Cadillac or a Jag is a little less tolerant of a little misalignment of the door or a squeak behind the dash than a guy with a $20k Versa |
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