On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 07:02:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 00:56:40 -0700 (PDT), RGrew176 wrote:

On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 4:18:42 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:35:34 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:20:32 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 11:31:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I just wish
they weren't so boring to drive.Â*

===

The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit
over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that.


Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought has a V6
rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a
lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for
kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot
right along.


What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting
about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few
stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical
60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto
up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and averaged
37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That
sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door
sedan.

===

If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for
obstructing traffic. Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it. Even in
nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75.

When pulling the trailer, I set the speed to about 63. Without it, I'll set it at 73. On the
interstates. Much easier than trying to beat the herd. Just let them pass me.

===

If you're pulling a trailer and staying in the right lane, that's fine
with me. Jerks like Harree who intentionally clog the passing lane,
not so much.

If it's three lane, with a lot of entrances, I'll stay in the middle lane. Otherwise the right lane.
Very often the folks entering the interstate seem to think they have the right of way. Of course,
they just look at the trailer and think, 'Oh, another rich SOB'. Surprising how much many folks
think a fifth wheel like mine costs.

In Michigan drivers entering the freeway do have the right of way. Thats the way our law is written. In Ohio just to my south it's the opposite freeway traffic has the right of way not merging traffic.

That would be a great reason to stay out of the right hand lane. Damn, that's scary! I can see some
asshole pulling right in front of me going all of 40 miles an hour. Well, thinking it was
unreasonable, I checked:

According to MCL 257.649(7):

A driver entering a roadway from a roadway that is intended for and constructed as a merging
roadway, and is plainly marked at the intersection with the appropriate merge signs, shall yield the
right-of-way to traffic upon the roadway that is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard and
shall adjust their speed to enable them to merge safely with through traffic.

https://www.michiganautolaw.com/blog...o-the-freeway/

The people who understand can make that merging thing work very well.
I remember on the beltway watching people getting on and off like cogs
on gears, probably 10-12 feet apart on the pass, at 50-60.
The problem is when some tourist decides to stop and wait his turn.

The last time I was up there we were in that tunnel under capitol hill
merging across 3 lanes and Judy was under the seat. Indiana folks
don't get it ;-)

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2017 8:41 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/17 11:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I just wish
they weren't so boring to drive.Â*

===

The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit
over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that.


Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought has
a V6
rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a
lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for
kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot
right along.


What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting
about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few
stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical
60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto
up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and
averaged
37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That
sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door
sedan.Â*

===

If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for
obstructing traffic.Â* Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it.Â* Even in
nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75.


I drive at the posted limit or usually a few mph below it, if it is
70. I would love having you behind me in your car in a place where you
could not pass...Wayne RoadRage...Â*

If I use the full 420 HP on tap I could pass you in the time it takes
you to sneeze.


It's an age and chapter of life thing Alex. I used to get a kick out of
having lots of horsepower and being able to go fast ... fast. Not
anymore. It has lost it's thrill. Now I am much more focused on what I
am doing and what others are doing.

Funny thing is, the small engines manufacturers use today have plenty of
zip if you want to put your foot into the throttle. The 2016 Altima I
had for a year had a 4 banger rated at 282 hp. I was really surprised
at how well it performed and handled. Granted, it wasn't an Audi or a
Porsche but it also cost about 20 percent of what the Porsche I had cost.

I remember that shortly after I sold the Porsche I impulsively bought a
2009 Ford Mustang "Bullet". I forget what engine it had but it was a
"high performance" version with a 5 speed manual transmission. Again,
it wasn't a Porsche but that damn car was both fast and handled
extremely well. I was sorta blown away because the last Mustang I ever
drove was a 1966 with the 289 V8. There is no comparison. The newer
cars are much, much better.




Sort of like my 2014 Volt. Only place I see any real lack of power is
going over the Grapevine on I5. But that is steep and long. Very quiet
on battery or gas. Gets 35mpg around town on gas, and as wife says you
can get a speeding ticket fairly easily. She was going to Walnut Creek for
lunch and said she looked at Speedometer and was doing 80on the freeway.
I still miss really powerful cars. I raced a 1964 Vette small block and
really like the new Corvettes, but I doubt I could get out of one these
days.

John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 20:39:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:20:32 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 11:31:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I just wish
they weren't so boring to drive.Â*

===

The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit
over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that.


Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought has a V6
rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a
lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for
kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot
right along.


What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting
about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few
stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical
60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto
up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and averaged
37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That
sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door
sedan.

===

If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for
obstructing traffic. Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it. Even in
nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75.

When pulling the trailer, I set the speed to about 63. Without it, I'll
set it at 73. On the
interstates. Much easier than trying to beat the herd. Just let them pass me.

===

If you're pulling a trailer and staying in the right lane, that's fine
with me. Jerks like Harree who intentionally clog the passing lane,
not so much.


The problem is they consider it the fast lane. Is actually a passing lane.
Years ago the signs said “keep right, except to pass”. Now they say
slower traffic keep right. Big problem we have here, is the main highway,
I5 is a 70 mph speed limit for cars, but trucks and towing is 55 mph. Is
a sure fire cause of accidents.

We don't have separate limits anymore. I didn't know that some
interstates still did. Haven't seen
that for a while. Of course, I've not been in California for a while either.


Several states in the west have different limits, but not 15 mph. Maybe 5
mph.

wrote:
On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 07:02:34 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 00:56:40 -0700 (PDT), RGrew176 wrote:

On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 4:18:42 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:35:34 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:20:32 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 11:31:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I just wish
they weren't so boring to drive.Â*

===

The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit
over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that.


Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought has a V6
rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a
lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for
kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot
right along.


What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting
about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few
stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical
60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto
up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and averaged
37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That
sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door
sedan.

===

If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for
obstructing traffic. Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it. Even in
nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75.

When pulling the trailer, I set the speed to about 63. Without it,
I'll set it at 73. On the
interstates. Much easier than trying to beat the herd. Just let them pass me.

===

If you're pulling a trailer and staying in the right lane, that's fine
with me. Jerks like Harree who intentionally clog the passing lane,
not so much.

If it's three lane, with a lot of entrances, I'll stay in the middle
lane. Otherwise the right lane.
Very often the folks entering the interstate seem to think they have
the right of way. Of course,
they just look at the trailer and think, 'Oh, another rich SOB'.
Surprising how much many folks
think a fifth wheel like mine costs.

In Michigan drivers entering the freeway do have the right of way.
Thats the way our law is written. In Ohio just to my south it's the
opposite freeway traffic has the right of way not merging traffic.

That would be a great reason to stay out of the right hand lane. Damn,
that's scary! I can see some
asshole pulling right in front of me going all of 40 miles an hour. Well, thinking it was
unreasonable, I checked:

According to MCL 257.649(7):

A driver entering a roadway from a roadway that is intended for and
constructed as a merging
roadway, and is plainly marked at the intersection with the appropriate
merge signs, shall yield the
right-of-way to traffic upon the roadway that is so close as to
constitute an immediate hazard and
shall adjust their speed to enable them to merge safely with through traffic.

https://www.michiganautolaw.com/blog...o-the-freeway/

The people who understand can make that merging thing work very well.
I remember on the beltway watching people getting on and off like cogs
on gears, probably 10-12 feet apart on the pass, at 50-60.
The problem is when some tourist decides to stop and wait his turn.

The last time I was up there we were in that tunnel under capitol hill
merging across 3 lanes and Judy was under the seat. Indiana folks
don't get it ;-)


I remember when I first went to Ohio for NCR. Friend from the Oakland
office and I were on a double date. Going up the onramp and getting up to
speed, he said watch out, the guy in front will stop at the top of the
ramp. One car on the freeway, maybe a 1/4 mile back and sure enough the
Ohio driver stops. Seemed to be standard for them. Cal CHP used to
figure was one of the most dangerous things to do on the freeway. Stop at
merge. Now we have people merge at 30 mph as traffic is doing 55 and take
a 100 yards to move left.

On 10/29/2017 12:50 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2017 8:41 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/17 11:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I just wish
they weren't so boring to drive.Â*

===

The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit
over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that.


Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought has
a V6
rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a
lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for
kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot
right along.


What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting
about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few
stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical
60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto
up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and
averaged
37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That
sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door
sedan.Â*

===

If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for
obstructing traffic.Â* Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it.Â* Even in
nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75.


I drive at the posted limit or usually a few mph below it, if it is
70. I would love having you behind me in your car in a place where you
could not pass...Wayne RoadRage...Â*

If I use the full 420 HP on tap I could pass you in the time it takes
you to sneeze.


It's an age and chapter of life thing Alex. I used to get a kick out of
having lots of horsepower and being able to go fast ... fast. Not
anymore. It has lost it's thrill. Now I am much more focused on what I
am doing and what others are doing.

Funny thing is, the small engines manufacturers use today have plenty of
zip if you want to put your foot into the throttle. The 2016 Altima I
had for a year had a 4 banger rated at 282 hp. I was really surprised
at how well it performed and handled. Granted, it wasn't an Audi or a
Porsche but it also cost about 20 percent of what the Porsche I had cost.

I remember that shortly after I sold the Porsche I impulsively bought a
2009 Ford Mustang "Bullet". I forget what engine it had but it was a
"high performance" version with a 5 speed manual transmission. Again,
it wasn't a Porsche but that damn car was both fast and handled
extremely well. I was sorta blown away because the last Mustang I ever
drove was a 1966 with the 289 V8. There is no comparison. The newer
cars are much, much better.




Sort of like my 2014 Volt. Only place I see any real lack of power is
going over the Grapevine on I5. But that is steep and long. Very quiet
on battery or gas. Gets 35mpg around town on gas, and as wife says you
can get a speeding ticket fairly easily. She was going to Walnut Creek for
lunch and said she looked at Speedometer and was doing 80on the freeway.
I still miss really powerful cars. I raced a 1964 Vette small block and
really like the new Corvettes, but I doubt I could get out of one these
days.



There's a place called "Corvette Mike's" not far from where I live. I
stopped in a couple of month's ago and looked around. I've never had a
Corvette (although I've driven a couple of them) and fell in love with
this one. It's pricey but I seriously thought about making an offer,
being the impulsive buyer I am.

However, the wiser part of whatever I have left for a brain convinced me
to hold off, go home, talk to Mrs.E. and think about it.

Still thinking. :-)

http://corvettemike.com/used-corvettes-for-sale/1966-nassau-blue-l72/

On 10/29/17 1:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/29/2017 12:50 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2017 8:41 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/17 11:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me

wrote:

Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I just
wish
they weren't so boring to drive.Â*

===

The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a
bit
over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that.


Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought has
a V6
rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really
like a
lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of
times for
kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can
scoot
right along.


What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm
getting
about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few
stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical
60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder
auto
up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and
averaged
37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving.
That
sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door
sedan.Â*

===

If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for
obstructing traffic.Â* Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it.Â* Even in
nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75.


I drive at the posted limit or usually a few mph below it, if it is
70. I would love having you behind me in your car in a place where you
could not pass...Wayne RoadRage...Â*

If I use the full 420 HP on tap I could pass you in the time it takes
you to sneeze.


It's an age and chapter of life thing Alex.Â* I used to get a kick out of
having lots of horsepower and being able to go fast ... fast.Â* Not
anymore.Â* It has lost it's thrill.Â* Now I am much more focused on what I
am doing and what others are doing.

Funny thing is, the small engines manufacturers use today have plenty of
zip if you want to put your foot into the throttle.Â* The 2016 Altima I
had for a year had a 4 banger rated at 282 hp.Â* I was really surprised
at how well it performed and handled. Granted, it wasn't an Audi or a
Porsche but it also cost about 20 percent of what the Porsche I had
cost.

I remember that shortly after I sold the Porsche I impulsively bought a
2009 Ford Mustang "Bullet".Â* I forget what engine it had but it was a
"high performance" version with a 5 speed manual transmission.Â* Again,
it wasn't a Porsche but that damn car was both fast and handled
extremely well.Â* I was sorta blown away because the last Mustang I ever
drove was a 1966 with the 289 V8.Â* There is no comparison. The newer
cars are much, much better.




Sort of like my 2014 Volt.Â*Â* Only place I see any real lack of power is
going over the Grapevine on I5.Â* But that is steep and long.Â*Â* Very quiet
on battery or gas.Â*Â* Gets 35mpg around town on gas, and as wife says you
can get a speeding ticket fairly easily.Â* She was going to Walnut
Creek for
lunch and said she looked at Speedometer and was doing 80on the freeway.
I still miss really powerful cars.Â*Â* I raced a 1964 Vette small block and
really like the new Corvettes, but I doubt I could get out of one these
days.



There's a place called "Corvette Mike's" not far from where I live.Â* I
stopped in a couple of month's ago and looked around.Â* I've never had a
Corvette (although I've driven a couple of them) and fell in love with
this one.Â* It's pricey but I seriously thought about making an offer,
being the impulsive buyer I am.

However, the wiser part of whatever I have left for a brain convinced me
to hold off, go home, talk to Mrs.E. and think about it.

Still thinking.Â*Â* :-)

http://corvettemike.com/used-corvettes-for-sale/1966-nassau-blue-l72/

My dad took one of those in on trade back in the day. I remember. It
rode hard enough that you thought your fillings would fall out. He
traded it to a car dealer buddy of his.

On 10/29/2017 3:14 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/29/17 1:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/29/2017 12:50 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2017 8:41 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/17 11:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me

wrote:

Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I
just wish
they weren't so boring to drive.Â*

===

The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in
a bit
over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that.


Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought has
a V6
rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really
like a
lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of
times for
kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can
scoot
right along.


What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm
getting
about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few
stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my
typical
60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry
4-cylinder auto
up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and
averaged
37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving.
That
sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door
sedan.Â*

===

If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for
obstructing traffic.Â* Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it.Â* Even in
nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75.


I drive at the posted limit or usually a few mph below it, if it is
70. I would love having you behind me in your car in a place where
you
could not pass...Wayne RoadRage...Â*

If I use the full 420 HP on tap I could pass you in the time it takes
you to sneeze.


It's an age and chapter of life thing Alex.Â* I used to get a kick
out of
having lots of horsepower and being able to go fast ... fast.Â* Not
anymore.Â* It has lost it's thrill.Â* Now I am much more focused on
what I
am doing and what others are doing.

Funny thing is, the small engines manufacturers use today have
plenty of
zip if you want to put your foot into the throttle.Â* The 2016 Altima I
had for a year had a 4 banger rated at 282 hp.Â* I was really surprised
at how well it performed and handled. Granted, it wasn't an Audi or a
Porsche but it also cost about 20 percent of what the Porsche I had
cost.

I remember that shortly after I sold the Porsche I impulsively bought a
2009 Ford Mustang "Bullet".Â* I forget what engine it had but it was a
"high performance" version with a 5 speed manual transmission.Â* Again,
it wasn't a Porsche but that damn car was both fast and handled
extremely well.Â* I was sorta blown away because the last Mustang I ever
drove was a 1966 with the 289 V8.Â* There is no comparison. The newer
cars are much, much better.




Sort of like my 2014 Volt.Â*Â* Only place I see any real lack of power is
going over the Grapevine on I5.Â* But that is steep and long.Â*Â* Very
quiet
on battery or gas.Â*Â* Gets 35mpg around town on gas, and as wife says you
can get a speeding ticket fairly easily.Â* She was going to Walnut
Creek for
lunch and said she looked at Speedometer and was doing 80on the freeway.
I still miss really powerful cars.Â*Â* I raced a 1964 Vette small block
and
really like the new Corvettes, but I doubt I could get out of one these
days.



There's a place called "Corvette Mike's" not far from where I live.Â* I
stopped in a couple of month's ago and looked around.Â* I've never had
a Corvette (although I've driven a couple of them) and fell in love
with this one.Â* It's pricey but I seriously thought about making an
offer, being the impulsive buyer I am.

However, the wiser part of whatever I have left for a brain convinced
me to hold off, go home, talk to Mrs.E. and think about it.

Still thinking.Â*Â* :-)

http://corvettemike.com/used-corvettes-for-sale/1966-nassau-blue-l72/

My dad took one of those in on trade back in the day. I remember. It
rode hard enough that you thought your fillings would fall out. He
traded it to a car dealer buddy of his.

Unfortunately, that's my recollection as well. In addition the frame on
the rag tops quaked when ever you hit a pebble in the road.

On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 13:52:57 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 10/29/2017 12:50 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2017 8:41 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/17 11:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me
wrote:

Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.* I just wish
they weren't so boring to drive.*

===

The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit
over 6 seconds.* Nothing boring about that.


Engine efficiencies have come a long way.* The Canyon I bought has
a V6
rated at 308 hp.* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a
lot.* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for
kicks.* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot
right along.


What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting
about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few
stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical
60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto
up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and
averaged
37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That
sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door
sedan.*

===

If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for
obstructing traffic.* Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it.* Even in
nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75.


I drive at the posted limit or usually a few mph below it, if it is
70. I would love having you behind me in your car in a place where you
could not pass...Wayne RoadRage...*

If I use the full 420 HP on tap I could pass you in the time it takes
you to sneeze.


It's an age and chapter of life thing Alex. I used to get a kick out of
having lots of horsepower and being able to go fast ... fast. Not
anymore. It has lost it's thrill. Now I am much more focused on what I
am doing and what others are doing.

Funny thing is, the small engines manufacturers use today have plenty of
zip if you want to put your foot into the throttle. The 2016 Altima I
had for a year had a 4 banger rated at 282 hp. I was really surprised
at how well it performed and handled. Granted, it wasn't an Audi or a
Porsche but it also cost about 20 percent of what the Porsche I had cost.

I remember that shortly after I sold the Porsche I impulsively bought a
2009 Ford Mustang "Bullet". I forget what engine it had but it was a
"high performance" version with a 5 speed manual transmission. Again,
it wasn't a Porsche but that damn car was both fast and handled
extremely well. I was sorta blown away because the last Mustang I ever
drove was a 1966 with the 289 V8. There is no comparison. The newer
cars are much, much better.




Sort of like my 2014 Volt. Only place I see any real lack of power is
going over the Grapevine on I5. But that is steep and long. Very quiet
on battery or gas. Gets 35mpg around town on gas, and as wife says you
can get a speeding ticket fairly easily. She was going to Walnut Creek for
lunch and said she looked at Speedometer and was doing 80on the freeway.
I still miss really powerful cars. I raced a 1964 Vette small block and
really like the new Corvettes, but I doubt I could get out of one these
days.



There's a place called "Corvette Mike's" not far from where I live. I
stopped in a couple of month's ago and looked around. I've never had a
Corvette (although I've driven a couple of them) and fell in love with
this one. It's pricey but I seriously thought about making an offer,
being the impulsive buyer I am.

However, the wiser part of whatever I have left for a brain convinced me
to hold off, go home, talk to Mrs.E. and think about it.

Still thinking. :-)

http://corvettemike.com/used-corvettes-for-sale/1966-nassau-blue-l72/

For that price I'd want a five year parts and labor warranty. It is a nice looking car though!

On 10/29/17 4:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/29/2017 3:14 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/29/17 1:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/29/2017 12:50 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2017 8:41 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/17 11:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me

wrote:

Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I
just wish
they weren't so boring to drive.Â*

===

The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in
a bit
over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that.


Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought
has
a V6
rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really
like a
lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of
times for
kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can
scoot
right along.


What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm
getting
about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few
stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my
typical
60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry
4-cylinder auto
up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and
averaged
37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights,
driving. That
sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized
four-door
sedan.Â*

===

If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for
obstructing traffic.Â* Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it.Â* Even in
nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75.


I drive at the posted limit or usually a few mph below it, if it is
70. I would love having you behind me in your car in a place
where you
could not pass...Wayne RoadRage...Â*

If I use the full 420 HP on tap I could pass you in the time it takes
you to sneeze.


It's an age and chapter of life thing Alex.Â* I used to get a kick
out of
having lots of horsepower and being able to go fast ... fast.Â* Not
anymore.Â* It has lost it's thrill.Â* Now I am much more focused on
what I
am doing and what others are doing.

Funny thing is, the small engines manufacturers use today have
plenty of
zip if you want to put your foot into the throttle.Â* The 2016 Altima I
had for a year had a 4 banger rated at 282 hp.Â* I was really surprised
at how well it performed and handled. Granted, it wasn't an Audi or a
Porsche but it also cost about 20 percent of what the Porsche I had
cost.

I remember that shortly after I sold the Porsche I impulsively
bought a
2009 Ford Mustang "Bullet".Â* I forget what engine it had but it was a
"high performance" version with a 5 speed manual transmission.Â* Again,
it wasn't a Porsche but that damn car was both fast and handled
extremely well.Â* I was sorta blown away because the last Mustang I
ever
drove was a 1966 with the 289 V8.Â* There is no comparison. The newer
cars are much, much better.




Sort of like my 2014 Volt.Â*Â* Only place I see any real lack of power is
going over the Grapevine on I5.Â* But that is steep and long.Â*Â* Very
quiet
on battery or gas.Â*Â* Gets 35mpg around town on gas, and as wife says
you
can get a speeding ticket fairly easily.Â* She was going to Walnut
Creek for
lunch and said she looked at Speedometer and was doing 80on the
freeway.
I still miss really powerful cars.Â*Â* I raced a 1964 Vette small
block and
really like the new Corvettes, but I doubt I could get out of one these
days.



There's a place called "Corvette Mike's" not far from where I live.
I stopped in a couple of month's ago and looked around.Â* I've never
had a Corvette (although I've driven a couple of them) and fell in
love with this one.Â* It's pricey but I seriously thought about making
an offer, being the impulsive buyer I am.

However, the wiser part of whatever I have left for a brain convinced
me to hold off, go home, talk to Mrs.E. and think about it.

Still thinking.Â*Â* :-)

http://corvettemike.com/used-corvettes-for-sale/1966-nassau-blue-l72/

My dad took one of those in on trade back in the day. I remember. It
rode hard enough that you thought your fillings would fall out. He
traded it to a car dealer buddy of his.

Unfortunately, that's my recollection as well.Â* In addition the frame on
the rag tops quaked when ever you hit a pebble in the road.




Further, for the asking price of that '66 'Vette, you could buy a
brand-new 2017 model that probably provides a much better ride and
certainly would be more reliable, with a new-car warranty, *and* you get
a lot of change back, instead of spending $100,000. Or you could buy a
new Cayman and have a much better car.

On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 9:44:58 AM UTC-4, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/29/17 4:19 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/29/2017 3:14 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/29/17 1:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/29/2017 12:50 PM, Bill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/28/2017 8:41 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/28/17 11:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me

wrote:

Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I
just wish
they weren't so boring to drive.Â*

===

The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in
a bit
over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that.


Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought
has
a V6
rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really
like a
lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of
times for
kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can
scoot
right along.


What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm
getting
about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few
stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my
typical
60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry
4-cylinder auto
up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and
averaged
37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights,
driving. That
sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized
four-door
sedan.Â*

===

If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for
obstructing traffic.Â* Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it.Â* Even in
nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75.


I drive at the posted limit or usually a few mph below it, if it is
70. I would love having you behind me in your car in a place
where you
could not pass...Wayne RoadRage...Â*

If I use the full 420 HP on tap I could pass you in the time it takes
you to sneeze.


It's an age and chapter of life thing Alex.Â* I used to get a kick
out of
having lots of horsepower and being able to go fast ... fast.Â* Not
anymore.Â* It has lost it's thrill.Â* Now I am much more focused on
what I
am doing and what others are doing.

Funny thing is, the small engines manufacturers use today have
plenty of
zip if you want to put your foot into the throttle.Â* The 2016 Altima I
had for a year had a 4 banger rated at 282 hp.Â* I was really surprised
at how well it performed and handled. Granted, it wasn't an Audi or a
Porsche but it also cost about 20 percent of what the Porsche I had
cost.

I remember that shortly after I sold the Porsche I impulsively
bought a
2009 Ford Mustang "Bullet".Â* I forget what engine it had but it was a
"high performance" version with a 5 speed manual transmission.Â* Again,
it wasn't a Porsche but that damn car was both fast and handled
extremely well.Â* I was sorta blown away because the last Mustang I
ever
drove was a 1966 with the 289 V8.Â* There is no comparison. The newer
cars are much, much better.




Sort of like my 2014 Volt.Â*Â* Only place I see any real lack of power is
going over the Grapevine on I5.Â* But that is steep and long.Â*Â* Very
quiet
on battery or gas.Â*Â* Gets 35mpg around town on gas, and as wife says
you
can get a speeding ticket fairly easily.Â* She was going to Walnut
Creek for
lunch and said she looked at Speedometer and was doing 80on the
freeway.
I still miss really powerful cars.Â*Â* I raced a 1964 Vette small
block and
really like the new Corvettes, but I doubt I could get out of one these
days.



There's a place called "Corvette Mike's" not far from where I live.
I stopped in a couple of month's ago and looked around.Â* I've never
had a Corvette (although I've driven a couple of them) and fell in
love with this one.Â* It's pricey but I seriously thought about making
an offer, being the impulsive buyer I am.

However, the wiser part of whatever I have left for a brain convinced
me to hold off, go home, talk to Mrs.E. and think about it.

Still thinking.Â*Â* :-)

http://corvettemike.com/used-corvettes-for-sale/1966-nassau-blue-l72/

My dad took one of those in on trade back in the day. I remember. It
rode hard enough that you thought your fillings would fall out. He
traded it to a car dealer buddy of his.

Unfortunately, that's my recollection as well.Â* In addition the frame on
the rag tops quaked when ever you hit a pebble in the road.




Further, for the asking price of that '66 'Vette, you could buy a
brand-new 2017 model that probably provides a much better ride and
certainly would be more reliable, with a new-car warranty, *and* you get
a lot of change back, instead of spending $100,000. Or you could buy a
new Cayman and have a much better car.

You don't buy a '66 Corvette for comfort, reliability, or transportation. You don't even buy it for performance. It's an investment that goes to car shows and rarely gets driven on the street, if you're smart. That way it maintains or increases in value.

Or you can buy a new Corvette or Cayman, drive it for the next 5 years, enjoy it, and then sell it for 20% of what you paid.