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Keyser Soze wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:20:32 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 11:31:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I just wish they weren't so boring to drive.Â* === The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that. Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought has a V6 rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot right along. What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical 60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and averaged 37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door sedan. === If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for obstructing traffic. Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it. Even in nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75. When pulling the trailer, I set the speed to about 63. Without it, I'll set it at 73. On the interstates. Much easier than trying to beat the herd. Just let them pass me. === If you're pulling a trailer and staying in the right lane, that's fine with me. Jerks like Harree who intentionally clog the passing lane, not so much. Never mentioned or implied passing lane, asshole. Nope, you implied it by both being Harry, and stating you like to block traffic on a one lane stretch. Block 5 cars on a one lane stretch in California is a ticket getter. |
#102
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On 10/28/2017 8:35 PM, Alex wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/28/2017 8:22 AM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I just wish they weren't so boring to drive.Â* === The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that. Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought has a V6 rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot right along. What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical 60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and averaged 37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door sedan.Â* I get 20-22 MPG driving around town (no highway driving) under similar conditions as you described.Â* Haven't taken a long highway trip yet, so I don't know what kind of mileage it gets. The V6 and 8 speed transmission in the 2017 Canyon replaces the V6 and 6 speed it used in previous years.Â* It has a little more horsepower and torque.Â* It's not a new engine or transmission.Â* It has been used in the Cadillac SUV for a few years.Â* GMC just decided to use it in the Canyon, probably to up the towing capacity from 6k to 7k lbs. I thought the Canyon used to have an unreliable 5cyl engine. I just looked it up. It had a 5cyl in the "Gen 1" versions (up to 2012). The Gen 2 versions (2012 and up) have options of a gas 4 cyl, a diesel 4 cyl and a 3.6L V6. It used the the LFX version of the V6 up to 2016 and switched to the LGZ version in 2017 (the one I have). The LGZ is designed more for truck use, has a little more horsepower and torque than the LFX version and has a cylinder deactivation feature that makes it a V4 in certain situations where you have let off on the gas. It's not even noticeable and I didn't realize it was doing it until I happened to notice a little display on the info center. Most of the time it displays "V6" and I got used to that although I thought it was strange that it was even displaying "V6" to begin with. Then, once in a while when slowing down I noticed it said "V4". Thought I was seeing things at first. There is absolutely no sense or feel when it switches back and forth and at idle it goes back to V6. |
#103
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On 10/28/2017 8:41 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/28/17 11:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I just wish they weren't so boring to drive.Â* === The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that. Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought has a V6 rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot right along. What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical 60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and averaged 37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door sedan.Â* === If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for obstructing traffic.Â* Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it.Â* Even in nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75. I drive at the posted limit or usually a few mph below it, if it is 70. I would love having you behind me in your car in a place where you could not pass...Wayne RoadRage...Â* If I use the full 420 HP on tap I could pass you in the time it takes you to sneeze. It's an age and chapter of life thing Alex. I used to get a kick out of having lots of horsepower and being able to go fast ... fast. Not anymore. It has lost it's thrill. Now I am much more focused on what I am doing and what others are doing. Funny thing is, the small engines manufacturers use today have plenty of zip if you want to put your foot into the throttle. The 2016 Altima I had for a year had a 4 banger rated at 282 hp. I was really surprised at how well it performed and handled. Granted, it wasn't an Audi or a Porsche but it also cost about 20 percent of what the Porsche I had cost. I remember that shortly after I sold the Porsche I impulsively bought a 2009 Ford Mustang "Bullet". I forget what engine it had but it was a "high performance" version with a 5 speed manual transmission. Again, it wasn't a Porsche but that damn car was both fast and handled extremely well. I was sorta blown away because the last Mustang I ever drove was a 1966 with the 289 V8. There is no comparison. The newer cars are much, much better. |
#104
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On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 4:18:42 PM UTC-4, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:35:34 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:20:32 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 11:31:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I just wish they weren't so boring to drive.Â* === The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that. Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought has a V6 rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot right along. What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical 60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and averaged 37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door sedan. === If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for obstructing traffic. Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it. Even in nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75. When pulling the trailer, I set the speed to about 63. Without it, I'll set it at 73. On the interstates. Much easier than trying to beat the herd. Just let them pass me. === If you're pulling a trailer and staying in the right lane, that's fine with me. Jerks like Harree who intentionally clog the passing lane, not so much. If it's three lane, with a lot of entrances, I'll stay in the middle lane.. Otherwise the right lane. Very often the folks entering the interstate seem to think they have the right of way. Of course, they just look at the trailer and think, 'Oh, another rich SOB'. Surprising how much many folks think a fifth wheel like mine costs. In Michigan drivers entering the freeway do have the right of way. Thats the way our law is written. In Ohio just to my south it's the opposite freeway traffic has the right of way not merging traffic. |
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#107
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 20:39:09 -0000 (UTC), Bill wrote:
Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:20:32 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 11:31:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.* I just wish they weren't so boring to drive.* === The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit over 6 seconds.* Nothing boring about that. Engine efficiencies have come a long way.* The Canyon I bought has a V6 rated at 308 hp.* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a lot.* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for kicks.* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot right along. What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical 60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and averaged 37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door sedan. === If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for obstructing traffic. Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it. Even in nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75. When pulling the trailer, I set the speed to about 63. Without it, I'll set it at 73. On the interstates. Much easier than trying to beat the herd. Just let them pass me. === If you're pulling a trailer and staying in the right lane, that's fine with me. Jerks like Harree who intentionally clog the passing lane, not so much. The problem is they consider it the fast lane. Is actually a passing lane. Years ago the signs said “keep right, except to pass”. Now they say slower traffic keep right. Big problem we have here, is the main highway, I5 is a 70 mph speed limit for cars, but trucks and towing is 55 mph. Is a sure fire cause of accidents. We don't have separate limits anymore. I didn't know that some interstates still did. Haven't seen that for a while. Of course, I've not been in California for a while either. |
#108
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 22:42:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 10/28/2017 8:41 PM, Alex wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/28/17 11:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.* I just wish they weren't so boring to drive.* === The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit over 6 seconds.* Nothing boring about that. Engine efficiencies have come a long way.* The Canyon I bought has a V6 rated at 308 hp.* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a lot.* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for kicks.* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot right along. What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical 60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and averaged 37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door sedan.* === If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for obstructing traffic.* Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it.* Even in nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75. I drive at the posted limit or usually a few mph below it, if it is 70. I would love having you behind me in your car in a place where you could not pass...Wayne RoadRage...* If I use the full 420 HP on tap I could pass you in the time it takes you to sneeze. It's an age and chapter of life thing Alex. I used to get a kick out of having lots of horsepower and being able to go fast ... fast. Not anymore. It has lost it's thrill. Now I am much more focused on what I am doing and what others are doing. Funny thing is, the small engines manufacturers use today have plenty of zip if you want to put your foot into the throttle. The 2016 Altima I had for a year had a 4 banger rated at 282 hp. I was really surprised at how well it performed and handled. Granted, it wasn't an Audi or a Porsche but it also cost about 20 percent of what the Porsche I had cost. I remember that shortly after I sold the Porsche I impulsively bought a 2009 Ford Mustang "Bullet". I forget what engine it had but it was a "high performance" version with a 5 speed manual transmission. Again, it wasn't a Porsche but that damn car was both fast and handled extremely well. I was sorta blown away because the last Mustang I ever drove was a 1966 with the 289 V8. There is no comparison. The newer cars are much, much better. Ha, I went through the same thing with Mustangs. Had a '66 with the same engine. When the new 'retro' style came out, I had to have one. It was a much better car, much faster, great sound system, etc, but it was, for me, the most uncomfortable car in the world. I kept it less than a year. An $8000 mistake. |
#109
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 00:56:40 -0700 (PDT), RGrew176 wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2017 at 4:18:42 PM UTC-4, John H wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:35:34 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 15:20:32 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 11:31:03 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.* I just wish they weren't so boring to drive.* === The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit over 6 seconds.* Nothing boring about that. Engine efficiencies have come a long way.* The Canyon I bought has a V6 rated at 308 hp.* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a lot.* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for kicks.* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot right along. What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical 60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and averaged 37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door sedan. === If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for obstructing traffic. Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it. Even in nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75. When pulling the trailer, I set the speed to about 63. Without it, I'll set it at 73. On the interstates. Much easier than trying to beat the herd. Just let them pass me. === If you're pulling a trailer and staying in the right lane, that's fine with me. Jerks like Harree who intentionally clog the passing lane, not so much. If it's three lane, with a lot of entrances, I'll stay in the middle lane. Otherwise the right lane. Very often the folks entering the interstate seem to think they have the right of way. Of course, they just look at the trailer and think, 'Oh, another rich SOB'. Surprising how much many folks think a fifth wheel like mine costs. In Michigan drivers entering the freeway do have the right of way. Thats the way our law is written. In Ohio just to my south it's the opposite freeway traffic has the right of way not merging traffic. That would be a great reason to stay out of the right hand lane. Damn, that's scary! I can see some asshole pulling right in front of me going all of 40 miles an hour. Well, thinking it was unreasonable, I checked: According to MCL 257.649(7): A driver entering a roadway from a roadway that is intended for and constructed as a merging roadway, and is plainly marked at the intersection with the appropriate merge signs, shall yield the right-of-way to traffic upon the roadway that is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard and shall adjust their speed to enable them to merge safely with through traffic. https://www.michiganautolaw.com/blog...o-the-freeway/ |
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On 10/29/2017 6:50 AM, John H wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 22:42:38 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 10/28/2017 8:41 PM, Alex wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/28/17 11:31 AM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sat, 28 Oct 2017 08:22:59 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/27/17 10:52 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/27/2017 10:17 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 10:03:05 -0700 (PDT), Its Me wrote: Toyota and Honda builds good, reliable transportation.Â* I just wish they weren't so boring to drive.Â* === The V6 Honda Accord develops about 290 hp and does 0 to 60 in a bit over 6 seconds.Â* Nothing boring about that. Engine efficiencies have come a long way.Â* The Canyon I bought has a V6 rated at 308 hp.Â* It has an 8 speed transmission that I really like a lot.Â* I rarely accelerate hard but have tried it a couple of times for kicks.Â* Shifts are quick and positive and the little truck can scoot right along. What are you averaging for MPGs? If I drive "rationally," I'm getting about 23-25 MPG in suburban areas with light traffic and a few stoplights, and 27-29 MPG on the Interstates if I stay at my typical 60-65 mph. Six-speed manual tranny. Drove wife's Camry 4-cylinder auto up to Bowie earlier this week, about 30 miles, on U.S. 301, and averaged 37 MPG for light traffic, but plenty of traffic lights, driving. That sort of MPG will put a smile on my face with a nice-sized four-door sedan.Â* === If you drive 60 to 65 on the interstates you should be arrested for obstructing traffic.Â* Here in FL 80 to 85 is more like it.Â* Even in nanny states like NY people are now doing 70 to 75. I drive at the posted limit or usually a few mph below it, if it is 70. I would love having you behind me in your car in a place where you could not pass...Wayne RoadRage...Â* If I use the full 420 HP on tap I could pass you in the time it takes you to sneeze. It's an age and chapter of life thing Alex. I used to get a kick out of having lots of horsepower and being able to go fast ... fast. Not anymore. It has lost it's thrill. Now I am much more focused on what I am doing and what others are doing. Funny thing is, the small engines manufacturers use today have plenty of zip if you want to put your foot into the throttle. The 2016 Altima I had for a year had a 4 banger rated at 282 hp. I was really surprised at how well it performed and handled. Granted, it wasn't an Audi or a Porsche but it also cost about 20 percent of what the Porsche I had cost. I remember that shortly after I sold the Porsche I impulsively bought a 2009 Ford Mustang "Bullet". I forget what engine it had but it was a "high performance" version with a 5 speed manual transmission. Again, it wasn't a Porsche but that damn car was both fast and handled extremely well. I was sorta blown away because the last Mustang I ever drove was a 1966 with the 289 V8. There is no comparison. The newer cars are much, much better. Ha, I went through the same thing with Mustangs. Had a '66 with the same engine. When the new 'retro' style came out, I had to have one. It was a much better car, much faster, great sound system, etc, but it was, for me, the most uncomfortable car in the world. I kept it less than a year. An $8000 mistake. Same with me. Didn't have the Mustang very long. It was fun but it's not for me. |
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