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On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:02:24 -0400, John H
wrote: You are really pretty far from salt water. The bay, up where you are, runs around 10 PPT or less depending on season and how far north you go. The river is pretty much just fresh water. That is why I/Os seem so popular there. I came down here with the same ideas but was quickly educated by the locals. Our climate kills lots of things that work fine up north. PT lumber and galvanized hardware are other examples. The bay's not as bad as where you are, but my exhaust manifolds thought the water was quite salty! === Conventional wisdom around here is that exhaust manifolds are on borrowed time after 5 or 6 years, same for risers. I/Os are fairly popular in my neighborhood but they are all stored in lifts, and most get flushed regularly. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2017 05:32:04 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Monday, October 9, 2017 at 6:24:07 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/9/2017 6:36 AM, Tim wrote: On Monday, October 9, 2017 at 5:21:15 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2017 11:01 PM, Bill wrote: John H wrote: On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:10:23 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. My experience with the I/O in the Chesapeake taught me to never, ever have another I/O in salt water. Many folks here suggested that Donnee look at an outboard instead of an I/O, but, of course, Donnee knew better. A trailer boat I/O probably does ok in the salt. You wash them off after a day of salt. How do you rinse the engine internals and risers if raw water cooled? Take it home or some place you can hook a garden hose to the 'muffs' , put it on the engine lower where the water inlet is, start the engine, and let the water flush the system. Pretty easy, really. muffs https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/e4a...0&odnBg=FFFFFF engine being flushed... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GcpyCMjhemU/maxresdefault.jpg Oh yeah. Forgot about that. Been a long time since I had an I/O. BTW ... ran across this great video on how to change the oil on a Yamaha 300 four stroke outboard. It's really a pleasure to watch a pro at work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkDCpqgFkHs She's probably a pro at more than merely changing oil.. LOL Yamaha really says you should suck the old oil out .... write your own jokes there. ;-) |
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On Monday, 9 October 2017 07:36:43 UTC-3, Tim wrote:
On Monday, October 9, 2017 at 5:21:15 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2017 11:01 PM, Bill wrote: John H wrote: On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:10:23 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. My experience with the I/O in the Chesapeake taught me to never, ever have another I/O in salt water. Many folks here suggested that Donnee look at an outboard instead of an I/O, but, of course, Donnee knew better. A trailer boat I/O probably does ok in the salt. You wash them off after a day of salt. How do you rinse the engine internals and risers if raw water cooled? Take it home or some place you can hook a garden hose to the 'muffs' , put it on the engine lower where the water inlet is, start the engine, and let the water flush the system. Pretty easy, really. muffs https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/e4a...0&odnBg=FFFFFF engine being flushed... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GcpyCMjhemU/maxresdefault.jpg I always did this after salt water use...even with my outboards. I'm a belt and suspenders kind of guy...especially with new stuff. |
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On Monday, 9 October 2017 09:25:51 UTC-3, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/9/17 8:08 AM, justan wrote: Keyser Soze Wrote in message: Tim wrote: On Monday, October 9, 2017 at 5:21:15 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2017 11:01 PM, Bill wrote: John H wrote: On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:10:23 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. My experience with the I/O in the Chesapeake taught me to never, ever have another I/O in salt water. Many folks here suggested that Donnee look at an outboard instead of an I/O, but, of course, Donnee knew better. A trailer boat I/O probably does ok in the salt. You wash them off after a day of salt. How do you rinse the engine internals and risers if raw water cooled? Take it home or some place you can hook a garden hose to the 'muffs' , put it on the engine lower where the water inlet is, start the engine, and let the water flush the system. Pretty easy, really. muffs https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/e4a...0&odnBg=FFFFFF engine being flushed... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GcpyCMjhemU/maxresdefault.jpg You can buy a flush valve that is plumbed into the raw water line from the drive to the engine and attach a fresh water hose. It is not rocket science. -- Posted with my iPad Pro Aparently it is to you. Unless you can show me how it's done. Then I'll give you a formal apology. http://www.quickflushvalve.com/editorial http://www.quickflushvalve.com/how-it-works.html I assume this works sort of like the fresh water flush on a modern outboard, in which you screw in a garden hose to a receptacle on the rear or side of the engine and turn on the water, with the hose pressure forcing the water through the engine and out through the lower unit. I had this feature on my 2012 Mercury 60hp Big Foot outboard. I would flush it this way and then the old fashioned muff method anytime I boated in salt water. |
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:10:10 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:02:24 -0400, John H wrote: You are really pretty far from salt water. The bay, up where you are, runs around 10 PPT or less depending on season and how far north you go. The river is pretty much just fresh water. That is why I/Os seem so popular there. I came down here with the same ideas but was quickly educated by the locals. Our climate kills lots of things that work fine up north. PT lumber and galvanized hardware are other examples. The bay's not as bad as where you are, but my exhaust manifolds thought the water was quite salty! === Conventional wisdom around here is that exhaust manifolds are on borrowed time after 5 or 6 years, same for risers. I/Os are fairly popular in my neighborhood but they are all stored in lifts, and most get flushed regularly. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com That's about when I replaced mine...manifolds and risers. |
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:57:16 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Oct 2017 05:32:04 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Monday, October 9, 2017 at 6:24:07 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/9/2017 6:36 AM, Tim wrote: On Monday, October 9, 2017 at 5:21:15 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2017 11:01 PM, Bill wrote: John H wrote: On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:10:23 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. My experience with the I/O in the Chesapeake taught me to never, ever have another I/O in salt water. Many folks here suggested that Donnee look at an outboard instead of an I/O, but, of course, Donnee knew better. A trailer boat I/O probably does ok in the salt. You wash them off after a day of salt. How do you rinse the engine internals and risers if raw water cooled? Take it home or some place you can hook a garden hose to the 'muffs' , put it on the engine lower where the water inlet is, start the engine, and let the water flush the system. Pretty easy, really. muffs https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/e4a...0&odnBg=FFFFFF engine being flushed... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GcpyCMjhemU/maxresdefault.jpg Oh yeah. Forgot about that. Been a long time since I had an I/O. BTW ... ran across this great video on how to change the oil on a Yamaha 300 four stroke outboard. It's really a pleasure to watch a pro at work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkDCpqgFkHs She's probably a pro at more than merely changing oil.. LOL Yamaha really says you should suck the old oil out ... write your own jokes there. ;-) === It would be a heck of a lot easier than removing and replacing that lower piece of cowling. That's probably necessary if you're going to replace the gear lube however. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 11:14:44 -0400, wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:10:10 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 10:02:24 -0400, John H wrote: You are really pretty far from salt water. The bay, up where you are, runs around 10 PPT or less depending on season and how far north you go. The river is pretty much just fresh water. That is why I/Os seem so popular there. I came down here with the same ideas but was quickly educated by the locals. Our climate kills lots of things that work fine up north. PT lumber and galvanized hardware are other examples. The bay's not as bad as where you are, but my exhaust manifolds thought the water was quite salty! === Conventional wisdom around here is that exhaust manifolds are on borrowed time after 5 or 6 years, same for risers. I/Os are fairly popular in my neighborhood but they are all stored in lifts, and most get flushed regularly. That surprises me. I knew a guy in the cape with an I/O but he was on a fresh water canal. I am not even sure where you would buy one around here. I have not seen a dealer who handles anything but outboards (Marina Mike, Bonita boat cen etc) but maybe there is someone up in Ft Myers. With the influx of folks from up north I suppose a lot of things we never used to see may become common. When Judy was building houses she used to have customers asking her where the furnace was going to be. === MarineMax sells a lot of I/O Searays. There's also a fair number of Rinkers and Hurricanes. Our original runabout was a 1978 Winner I/O that we stored mostly in the water in Connecticut and then trailered in down here. It lasted quite a long time considering that it didn't get any special treatment and we used it a lot. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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On Mon, 9 Oct 2017 07:55:36 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Monday, 9 October 2017 00:01:32 UTC-3, Bill wrote: John H wrote: On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:10:23 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. My experience with the I/O in the Chesapeake taught me to never, ever have another I/O in salt water. Many folks here suggested that Donnee look at an outboard instead of an I/O, but, of course, Donnee knew better. A trailer boat I/O probably does ok in the salt. You wash them off after a day of salt. Bingo...and I do flush religiously. For what it's worthl, I flushed mine every time I took it out. The manifolds and risers still needed replacing after about five years. |
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