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Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday.
I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. |
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On 10/6/17 11:06 AM, True North wrote:
Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Consider getting a stainless prop to replace the one you broke, and have that one fixed to keep as a spare. |
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On Fri, 6 Oct 2017 08:06:55 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. For sure it was Crosby's fault. |
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On Fri, 6 Oct 2017 11:13:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/6/17 11:06 AM, True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Consider getting a stainless prop to replace the one you broke, and have that one fixed to keep as a spare. What he said ;-) Stainless will stand up better to small dings but a big rock will still kill one, along with bending the prop shaft if you hit hard enough. Some people will say, stay with the aluminum one and consider it expendable. If you feel that way, get a plastic one with replaceable blades. I keep one of them on the boat as a spare. Just be aware, you usually need to bump the pitch up a size or two because they flex under load. I run a stainless 11" but in plastic I needed the 13" blades to get the RPM right at WOT. |
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On Fri, 6 Oct 2017 08:06:55 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. === Aluminum props are usually repairable, small matter of money of course. If you have an Android or Apple cell phone you might want to look into an app called Navionics (US and Canada). It turns your phone into a fairly robust GPS chart plotter and will give you some advance warning of those jumping rocks. It's much cheaper than prop repair. Everyone here except your narcissistic buddy has hit a rock at one time or another. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com |
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True North wrote:
Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart? I/O's are lake boats. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/6/17 11:06 AM, True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Consider getting a stainless prop to replace the one you broke, and have that one fixed to keep as a spare. Good advice! Spend a lot of money on a performance prop for a Bayliner that will trash your driveshaft instead of denting the next time you hit something. |
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On 10/6/17 8:11 PM, Alex wrote:
True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access.Â* I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral.Â* With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore.Â* Now I know why they were there.Â* I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart?Â* I/O's are lake boats. I'm not an I/O fan, but your claim about "lake boats" is just another example of your ignorance. |
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Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. Its fixable unless the hub spun. But that's not all. There could be internal problems to the io. Even the engine coupler could have sustained damage. You aren't supposed to let the prop touch anything but water while its spinning. Hope this helps. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 10/6/17 11:06 AM, True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. A klutz like him shouldn't own a ss prop. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/6/17 11:06 AM, True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, Harry means well. -- ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Fri, 6 Oct 2017 22:14:27 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:
Alex Wrote in message: Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/6/17 11:06 AM, True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, Harry means well. That *was* a rather funny comment, especially given Harry's involvement. |
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On Friday, 6 October 2017 21:11:43 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one.. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore.. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart? I/O's are lake boats. Duh, Ditzy...what part of boating on "Grand Lake" didn't y'all understand? |
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On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 07:44:05 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Friday, 6 October 2017 21:11:43 UTC-3, Alex wrote: True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart? I/O's are lake boats. Duh, Ditzy...what part of boating on "Grand Lake" didn't y'all understand? Ramping up the instigating and agitating again Donnee? |
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On Saturday, 7 October 2017 12:01:18 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 07:44:05 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote: On Friday, 6 October 2017 21:11:43 UTC-3, Alex wrote: True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart? I/O's are lake boats. Duh, Ditzy...what part of boating on "Grand Lake" didn't y'all understand? Ramping up the instigating and agitating again Donnee? No Johnny, just asking a legitimate question to his silly statement. Besides, y'all are the master at agitating and instigating. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/6/17 8:11 PM, Alex wrote: True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart? I/O's are lake boats. I'm not an I/O fan, but your claim about "lake boats" is just another example of your ignorance. Is lake and river better? I/O's have little to no place in the ocean for a variety of reasons. |
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True North wrote:
On Friday, 6 October 2017 21:11:43 UTC-3, Alex wrote: True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart? I/O's are lake boats. Duh, Ditzy...what part of boating on "Grand Lake" didn't y'all understand? So you don't use your Bayliner in the ocean? |
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On 10/7/17 9:21 PM, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/6/17 8:11 PM, Alex wrote: True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access.Â* I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral.Â* With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore.Â* Now I know why they were there.Â* I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart?Â* I/O's are lake boats. I'm not an I/O fan, but your claim about "lake boats" is just another example of your ignorance. Is lake and river better?Â* I/O's have little to no place in the ocean for a variety of reasons. As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. |
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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/7/17 9:21 PM, Alex wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/6/17 8:11 PM, Alex wrote: True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart? I/O's are lake boats. I'm not an I/O fan, but your claim about "lake boats" is just another example of your ignorance. Is lake and river better? I/O's have little to no place in the ocean for a variety of reasons. As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. Less than half of my guns are Rugers but keep "researching" that. Sure, I've seen a lot of I/O' in the sal****er too. Not thousands. Does Bayliner even offer an internal cooling system? |
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On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. |
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Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/7/17 9:21 PM, Alex wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/6/17 8:11 PM, Alex wrote: True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart? I/O's are lake boats. I'm not an I/O fan, but your claim about "lake boats" is just another example of your ignorance. Is lake and river better? I/O's have little to no place in the ocean for a variety of reasons. As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. Less than half of my guns are Rugers but keep "researching" that. Sure, I've seen a lot of I/O' in the sal****er too. Not thousands. Does Bayliner even offer an internal cooling system? Stri tly speaking, no. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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True North wrote: On Friday, 6 October 2017 21:11:43 UTC-3, Alex wrote: True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart? I/O's are lake boats. Duh, Ditzy...what part of boating on "Grand Lake" didn't y'all understand? So you don't use your Bayliner in the ocean? What part of bay-liner don't you understand? :-) -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Saturday, 7 October 2017 22:21:34 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/6/17 8:11 PM, Alex wrote: True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart? I/O's are lake boats. I'm not an I/O fan, but your claim about "lake boats" is just another example of your ignorance. Is lake and river better? I/O's have little to no place in the ocean for a variety of reasons. Maybe not for sissy boys and girlie men. See a fair number around here. |
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On Saturday, 7 October 2017 22:23:16 UTC-3, Alex wrote:
True North wrote: On Friday, 6 October 2017 21:11:43 UTC-3, Alex wrote: True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart? I/O's are lake boats. Duh, Ditzy...what part of boating on "Grand Lake" didn't y'all understand? So you don't use your Bayliner in the ocean? Stupid question as we are surrounded by salt water. |
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Maybe not for sissy boys and girlie men. See a fair number around here. A lot of those draft dodgers sought protection in Kanaduh. There are still some living up there, I suppose. Be sure to thank them for their service when you see them. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On Sunday, 8 October 2017 12:10:01 UTC-3, justan wrote:
True North Wrote in message: Maybe not for sissy boys and girlie men. See a fair number around here. A lot of those draft dodgers sought protection in Kanaduh. There are still some living up there, I suppose. Be sure to thank them for their service when you see them. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ Duh...you're getting as ditzy as Ditzy himself. I was referring to seeing a fair number of I/O type runabouts...not sissy boys or Girliemen. |
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On Sun, 8 Oct 2017 07:58:49 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Saturday, 7 October 2017 22:21:34 UTC-3, Alex wrote: Keyser Soze wrote: On 10/6/17 8:11 PM, Alex wrote: True North wrote: Hate to interrupt all the 'Americans Acting badly With Guns' posts, but I had a small bit of misfortune yesterday. I was up boating with my Springer Spaniel on Grand Lake and got a bit nosy checking out Sidney Crosby's house and his waterfront access. I was motoring slowly along when I saw the depth gauge suddenly go from 5-6 feet to just less than 3 feet. Heard the bang right away so I quickly tilted up the motor and shifted it to neutral. With the swim platform covering the I/O Alpha Drive it was hard to see if I had any damage and as I floated back into deeper water I moved into forward and didn't notice anything unusual so I continued my 2 hour tour of the lake. Only after retrieving the boat did I see a chunk missing out of one of my aluminum propeller blades. D'oh...don't know if that can be repaired or if I have to buy a new one. I remembered that during the summer, there was a string of brightly coloured floating balls stretched along where I went about 40-50 feet offshore. Now I know why they were there. I should send a letter to Crosby complaining that he should have left the 'barrier' out at least until Thanksgiving this Monday. Ever heard of a chart? I/O's are lake boats. I'm not an I/O fan, but your claim about "lake boats" is just another example of your ignorance. Is lake and river better? I/O's have little to no place in the ocean for a variety of reasons. Maybe not for sissy boys and girlie men. See a fair number around here. There is always that 10% who either didn't get or didn't heed the word. |
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On Sun, 8 Oct 2017 08:29:22 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Sunday, 8 October 2017 12:10:01 UTC-3, justan wrote: True North Wrote in message: Maybe not for sissy boys and girlie men. See a fair number around here. A lot of those draft dodgers sought protection in Kanaduh. There are still some living up there, I suppose. Be sure to thank them for their service when you see them. -- x ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ Duh...you're getting as ditzy as Ditzy himself. I was referring to seeing a fair number of I/O type runabouts...not sissy boys or Girliemen. That's not what you said. And remember, you are the first to correct other's mistakes, so surely you didn't make a mistake. Remember, a good liberal would take no offense at being grouped with a bunch of 'sissy boys and girlie men, eh Don White? |
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2017 11:50:06 -0400, John H
wrote: On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:10:23 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. My experience with the I/O in the Chesapeake taught me to never, ever have another I/O in salt water. Many folks here suggested that Donnee look at an outboard instead of an I/O, but, of course, Donnee knew better. Outboards have a hard time matching the horsepower at any given price point when compared to a mass produced car engine. The problem is that auto manufacturer did not design that engine for the marine environment. You can mitigate some of the problems with fresh water cooling but not all. Running in the frigid water up north, flushing/rinsing after every use, storing on a trailer and a very short season also helps make them last longer. For someone like me who runs in 80+ degree salt water 3-4 times a week, never flushes and has a 12 month season, an I/O would have been trash decades ago. I have repowered 3 times (at around 3000 hours). With an outboard, that is a few hour job requiring nothing but a come along and a few hand tools. You are instantly a virgin from the throttle handle to the prop. On an I/O it is a huge job to swap an engine and you still have not done anything with the out drive. I am also not standing on my head in the bilge trying to do the most trivial maintenance. Up on the trailer, everything is a stand up job and you can see everything you are working on. I suppose if you just drop it off at the dealer and come back a week or two later, when they are done, that is not an issue. It is only money but wasn't money the reason you got the I/O in the first place.. |
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On Sunday, 8 October 2017 12:50:06 UTC-3, John H wrote:
On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:10:23 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. My experience with the I/O in the Chesapeake taught me to never, ever have another I/O in salt water. Many folks here suggested that Donnee look at an outboard instead of an I/O, but, of course, Donnee knew better. Duh, JohnnyMop....the advice came after I had purchased the bow rider. I did look at the same model with the 90hp outboard but in the time it took me to walk around the boat show, the last 2015 Bayliner 170BR had been sold. I got my 2015 175BR at a reduced price at the 2016 show because it was an unsold boat from the previous year. If I wanted to pay 40% more I would have gone with the 2016 BR 180 and an upgrade to the 115 hp Mercury. |
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:38:57 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2017 11:50:06 -0400, John H wrote: On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:10:23 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. My experience with the I/O in the Chesapeake taught me to never, ever have another I/O in salt water. Many folks here suggested that Donnee look at an outboard instead of an I/O, but, of course, Donnee knew better. Outboards have a hard time matching the horsepower at any given price point when compared to a mass produced car engine. The problem is that auto manufacturer did not design that engine for the marine environment. You can mitigate some of the problems with fresh water cooling but not all. Running in the frigid water up north, flushing/rinsing after every use, storing on a trailer and a very short season also helps make them last longer. For someone like me who runs in 80+ degree salt water 3-4 times a week, never flushes and has a 12 month season, an I/O would have been trash decades ago. I have repowered 3 times (at around 3000 hours). With an outboard, that is a few hour job requiring nothing but a come along and a few hand tools. You are instantly a virgin from the throttle handle to the prop. On an I/O it is a huge job to swap an engine and you still have not done anything with the out drive. I am also not standing on my head in the bilge trying to do the most trivial maintenance. Up on the trailer, everything is a stand up job and you can see everything you are working on. I suppose if you just drop it off at the dealer and come back a week or two later, when they are done, that is not an issue. It is only money but wasn't money the reason you got the I/O in the first place.. My current boat is an I/O, but it'll never see salt water. I 'spect Don White has the bucks and can just drop that Bayliner off at the dealer for the necessary servicing. |
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On Sun, 8 Oct 2017 09:41:39 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:
On Sunday, 8 October 2017 12:50:06 UTC-3, John H wrote: On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:10:23 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. My experience with the I/O in the Chesapeake taught me to never, ever have another I/O in salt water. Many folks here suggested that Donnee look at an outboard instead of an I/O, but, of course, Donnee knew better. Duh, JohnnyMop....the advice came after I had purchased the bow rider. I did look at the same model with the 90hp outboard but in the time it took me to walk around the boat show, the last 2015 Bayliner 170BR had been sold. I got my 2015 175BR at a reduced price at the 2016 show because it was an unsold boat from the previous year. If I wanted to pay 40% more I would have gone with the 2016 BR 180 and an upgrade to the 115 hp Mercury. That's a shame. But the advice came from folks here as soon as you mentioned looking. Ever wonder why it was unsold and so reduced? |
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On 10/8/2017 12:41 PM, True North wrote:
On Sunday, 8 October 2017 12:50:06 UTC-3, John H wrote: On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:10:23 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. My experience with the I/O in the Chesapeake taught me to never, ever have another I/O in salt water. Many folks here suggested that Donnee look at an outboard instead of an I/O, but, of course, Donnee knew better. Duh, JohnnyMop....the advice came after I had purchased the bow rider. I did look at the same model with the 90hp outboard but in the time it took me to walk around the boat show, the last 2015 Bayliner 170BR had been sold. I got my 2015 175BR at a reduced price at the 2016 show because it was an unsold boat from the previous year. If I wanted to pay 40% more I would have gone with the 2016 BR 180 and an upgrade to the 115 hp Mercury. Not to pick on what you bought but a bow rider isn't the best choice for ocean boating. |
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:50:03 -0400, John H
wrote: On Sun, 08 Oct 2017 12:38:57 -0400, wrote: Outboards have a hard time matching the horsepower at any given price point when compared to a mass produced car engine. The problem is that auto manufacturer did not design that engine for the marine environment. You can mitigate some of the problems with fresh water cooling but not all. Running in the frigid water up north, flushing/rinsing after every use, storing on a trailer and a very short season also helps make them last longer. For someone like me who runs in 80+ degree salt water 3-4 times a week, never flushes and has a 12 month season, an I/O would have been trash decades ago. I have repowered 3 times (at around 3000 hours). With an outboard, that is a few hour job requiring nothing but a come along and a few hand tools. You are instantly a virgin from the throttle handle to the prop. On an I/O it is a huge job to swap an engine and you still have not done anything with the out drive. I am also not standing on my head in the bilge trying to do the most trivial maintenance. Up on the trailer, everything is a stand up job and you can see everything you are working on. I suppose if you just drop it off at the dealer and come back a week or two later, when they are done, that is not an issue. It is only money but wasn't money the reason you got the I/O in the first place.. My current boat is an I/O, but it'll never see salt water. You are really pretty far from salt water. The bay, up where you are, runs around 10 PPT or less depending on season and how far north you go. The river is pretty much just fresh water. That is why I/Os seem so popular there. I came down here with the same ideas but was quickly educated by the locals. Our climate kills lots of things that work fine up north. PT lumber and galvanized hardware are other examples. |
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On 10/8/17 1:26 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2017 12:41 PM, True North wrote: On Sunday, 8 October 2017 12:50:06 UTC-3, John HÂ* wrote: On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:10:23 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. My experience with the I/O in the Chesapeake taught me to never, ever have another I/O in salt water. Many folks here suggested that Donnee look at an outboard instead of an I/O, but, of course, Donnee knew better. Duh, JohnnyMop....the advice came after I had purchased the bow rider.Â*Â* I did look at the same model with the 90hp outboard but in the time it took me to walk around the boat show, the last 2015 Bayliner 170BR had been sold.Â* I got my 2015 175BR at a reduced price at the 2016 show because it was an unsold boat from the previous year.Â*Â*Â* If I wanted to pay 40% more I would have gone with the 2016 BR 180 and an upgrade to the 115 hp Mercury. Not to pick on what you bought but a bow rider isn't the best choice for ocean boating. Depends... http://tinyurl.com/y9q855qw |
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On 10/8/17 1:26 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/8/2017 12:41 PM, True North wrote: On Sunday, 8 October 2017 12:50:06 UTC-3, John HÂ* wrote: On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:10:23 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. My experience with the I/O in the Chesapeake taught me to never, ever have another I/O in salt water. Many folks here suggested that Donnee look at an outboard instead of an I/O, but, of course, Donnee knew better. Duh, JohnnyMop....the advice came after I had purchased the bow rider.Â*Â* I did look at the same model with the 90hp outboard but in the time it took me to walk around the boat show, the last 2015 Bayliner 170BR had been sold.Â* I got my 2015 175BR at a reduced price at the 2016 show because it was an unsold boat from the previous year.Â*Â*Â* If I wanted to pay 40% more I would have gone with the 2016 BR 180 and an upgrade to the 115 hp Mercury. Not to pick on what you bought but a bow rider isn't the best choice for ocean boating. Depends... http://tinyurl.com/y9q855qw |
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On Sun, 8 Oct 2017 14:20:56 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 10/8/17 1:26 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 10/8/2017 12:41 PM, True North wrote: On Sunday, 8 October 2017 12:50:06 UTC-3, John HÂ* wrote: On Sat, 07 Oct 2017 23:10:23 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 21:32:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: As far as can be told here, your "expertise" in boating is limited to buying non-collectible firearms from a Ruger auction site. I'm not a fan of I/O's for several reasons, but I've seen - literally - thousands of boats of all sizes out on the ocean powered by I/O's. The only I/Os we see here are big go fast boats with 7+ liter V-8s in them or snow birds who have not figured out they have the wrong boat yet. Even now, the go fast crowd is migrating to trip or quad outboards. I see a Yellowfin 36 out at the beach now and then running trip 7 Marines. I/Os may be fine as a northern trailer boat but they suck in tropical salt water, especially if they are raw water cooled. The last time I did a survey, we had 78 boats in my little 120 resident neighborhood. None are I/Os. Half are Yamaha, a quarter Mercury and the remaining quarter are Zekes, 2 smoke OMCs, One Etec and one Honda. I don't remember the last time I saw an I.O on the river but I am sure it had out of state numbers on it. I understand the I/O is pretty popular on the Chesapeake but that may just be because it is not really salt water and that the are cheap. It may make sense for a person looking at a 3-4 month season. My experience with the I/O in the Chesapeake taught me to never, ever have another I/O in salt water. Many folks here suggested that Donnee look at an outboard instead of an I/O, but, of course, Donnee knew better. Duh, JohnnyMop....the advice came after I had purchased the bow rider.Â*Â* I did look at the same model with the 90hp outboard but in the time it took me to walk around the boat show, the last 2015 Bayliner 170BR had been sold.Â* I got my 2015 175BR at a reduced price at the 2016 show because it was an unsold boat from the previous year.Â*Â*Â* If I wanted to pay 40% more I would have gone with the 2016 BR 180 and an upgrade to the 115 hp Mercury. Not to pick on what you bought but a bow rider isn't the best choice for ocean boating. Depends... http://tinyurl.com/y9q855qw It just "depends" on wave height and the skill of the captain. You stuff that big hole on the bow into a wave and that "self bailing" boat becomes self sinking. |
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