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Hope you and the bike heal 100%. Thanks. I need to start taking it slower, or as my wife asked me, "are you finished playing in the dirt now.. I guess I just don't heal as well as I used to. |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 16:06:36 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:57:33 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 13:56:29 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/22/16 12:19 PM, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or clutch lever. Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir. MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed! That sounds more like a base restriction. As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front wheel but it survived OK. I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff missing from the right handlebar. I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting is never stop moving and pulse the valve. I wonder if "survival" of bike and rider is as true today, what with the much more massive bikes and faster speeds and plastic parts... If you have a road bike with crash bars and you can just lay it down, stay tucked in and you will be OK as a general rule but hitting something head on is always bad. The only time I ever laid a bike down or even got hurt was dirt riding. My Benelli was fun out in the woods but I did crash a few times You do realize that a bike sliding on its side has less traction than an upright bike with the brakes applied. Laying a bike down looks good in the movies, but the bike will stop faster with the brakes. I am not talking about intentionally laying it down but that can just happen if you get to aggressive with the brakes, particularly in the woods. OTOH If you are going to hit something, having tires and springs out in front is better than counting on your face shield to save you. ;-) |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:18:40 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 11/22/2016 4:41 PM, Tim wrote: 3:06 PMPoquito Loco - show quoted text - You do realize that a bike sliding on its side has less traction than an upright bike with the brakes applied. Laying a bike down looks good in the movies, but the bike will stop faster with the brakes. .... Nope. I disagree. I laid down my cb450 Honda just moments before it slid and slammed into 88 yr. old "grannie blue-hair" who had just pulled out in front of me. She was driving a 1972 Buick Electra 225 and I swear she couldn't see over the steering wheel! Ha! That's what riding in Florida was all about. I used to head for the roads less traveled. It is just nuts here. I rode that harley a couple of times and I was done. |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 13:41:37 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:
3:06 PMPoquito Loco - show quoted text - You do realize that a bike sliding on its side has less traction than an upright bike with the brakes applied. Laying a bike down looks good in the movies, but the bike will stop faster with the brakes. .... Nope. I disagree. I laid down my cb450 Honda just moments before it slid and slammed into 88 yr. old "grannie blue-hair" who had just pulled out in front of me. She was driving a 1972 Buick Electra 225 and I swear she couldn't see over the steering wheel! Hey, disagreement is good. But, I'll take the Motorcycle Safety Foundation's party line and use my brakes, especially the front one. If the road's wet, I'll be going down anyway! When someone pulls out in front, the brakes and counter-steering are the life saviors to trust. Trust me! Some views: http://www.msgroup.org/Tip.aspx?Num=226 http://www.claydugas.com/auto-accide...-avoid-injury/ https://rideapart.com/articles/lay-er (A Good one!) http://motorcycle-central.com/how-to...ur-motorcycle/ http://www.autoevolution.com/news/mo...t-2-46474.html http://motorcycleviews.com/general/m...clemyths_2.htm http://timoconnorattorney.com/motorc...ce-techniques/ "If you guys remember the movie "Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man" Big John Studd had a completely valid reason to lay his bike down. So I'll say this, if your friends rob an armored car, end up in a gunfight with guys in Kevlar trench coats and you need to blow up your bike to save them, go ahead and lay the bike down. Otherwise, it is probably not a good idea. Later," [From: http://harleytechtalk.org/htt/index.php?topic=40105.0] Just go into google and type "lay motorcycle down or use brakes". You'll get a lot of hits! |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:15:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 11/22/2016 12:19 PM, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or clutch lever. Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir. MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed! That sounds more like a base restriction. As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front wheel but it survived OK. I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff missing from the right handlebar. I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting is never stop moving and pulse the valve. While attending ET school in GLakes I rode a Honda 350 back and forth from our apartment because my wife needed the car. During the winter the base would not allow the bike "on base", so I had to park it outside the main gate. Wasn't fun riding it in snow and I would never recommend it. We disagree. My little Honda 125 was an on/off road bike, didn't have knobby tires, but they were almost knobby. I'd take it into the woods at Ft. Belvoir and have a blast riding in the snow. Wore a snowmobile suit. Went down a few times, but never anything serious. Probably put half a dozen new turn signals on that thing. But, commuting in the winter with ice and snow is something I sure as hell wouldn't do now. I learned that one the hard way. |
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:55:21 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 1:06:33 PM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:57:33 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 13:56:29 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: On 11/22/16 12:19 PM, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote: On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote: I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :) One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-) I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring. One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid for my trip. It sold in a day. Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or clutch lever. Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir. MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed! That sounds more like a base restriction. As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front wheel but it survived OK. I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff missing from the right handlebar. I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting is never stop moving and pulse the valve. I wonder if "survival" of bike and rider is as true today, what with the much more massive bikes and faster speeds and plastic parts... If you have a road bike with crash bars and you can just lay it down, stay tucked in and you will be OK as a general rule but hitting something head on is always bad. The only time I ever laid a bike down or even got hurt was dirt riding. My Benelli was fun out in the woods but I did crash a few times You do realize that a bike sliding on its side has less traction than an upright bike with the brakes applied. Laying a bike down looks good in the movies, but the bike will stop faster with the brakes. I'm in John's camp when I comes to braking versus "Had to lay her down" Then again I'm one to talk! I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule. There's always the helmet story exception: "I'd never wear a helmet 'cause a helmet's what killed a buddy of mine! He went down and slid off a cliff, and his helmet strap got caught on a tree, and it busted his neck damn near clean in two!" |
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