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Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 5:00:42 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 07:23:24 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/22/2016 7:04 PM, wrote:

Hope you and the bike heal 100%.

Thanks.
I need to start taking it slower, or as my wife asked me, "are you
finished playing in the dirt now..
I guess I just don't heal as well as I used to.



Frankly, the main reason I sold my last motorcycle was because I was
starting to feel less comfortable with my reflexes and ability to avoid
potential accidents. Never had a major issue but in your 60's your
reaction time (for most of us anyway) just isn't the same as in your
30's. That, plus the fact that the bike (Harley Ultra Classic) was
close to 900lbs and was becoming a bit of a chore to push around. Maybe
if I had kept a Softail or something a bit lighter, I would still be riding.


My next ride: http://www.motorscooterguide.net/Hon...ilverwing.html,
for the reasons you cited.

I'm into Adventure bikes as you know, Honda is coming out with the ADV X
model scooter and is something I'd consider if they bring it to the US market.
I'm at that age also where throwing my leg over a tall ADV bike ends
with me kicking at it half the time these days.

I did that with the Mille at a McDonalds on the way to North Carolina. The bike was on it's
starboard (boating related) side up close to a curb. I could not get
enough of a grip to get it up.
Luckily a guy I'd been talking to inside saw the action and came out to help.

Embarrassing as hell though!


Back in about 1959, group of us scouts were over in San Francisco. One of
the leaders worked there, and we were using his parking garage. Very steep
driveway. Young man riding a Harley, all huge in those days, had to stop
for a car. Tried to put his foot down on the downhill side. Foot did not
reach ground. Over the bike went. We were going to help, but the driveway
was so steep, he pivoted the bike, and only had to lift a little to get it
upright. Guy was about 98 pounds.

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wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:00:25 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I learned my lesson riding a Honda in the snow. I am wondering, though,
how my 4WD Toyota Tacoma will do in the snow. It has
all-terrain/all-season tires, I think, plus a manual transmission, but,
of course, it suffers from the typical pickup truck ailment of not a lot
of weight on the rear tires. I only got the 4WD model because a number
of on-line reports indicated it did well in the snow. We'll see.

The thing you have to remember about 4wd is if you lose the back end,
the front is probably going with it. I hockey pucked my Jeep a few
times on the beltway before I figured out that I should leave it in 2
wheel until I needed it.


Big problem we have with the 4x4 in the Sierra snow, is they drive fast,
forgetting they can not stop quickly, causing major accidents. And the
Japanese 4x4's seem to be worse, as most do not have positraction.

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True North wrote:
Keyser Soze
- show quoted text -
"I usually don't wander out until one of the neighbors at the entrance to
our little subdivision emails everyone that the state road there has
been hit at least once by the plow. At that point, I decide whether to
pay the $100 or so to have our driveway plowed. If the truck does as I
hope, I might avoid a few "plow jobs."

The Beltway is a great place to avoid during snowstorms."


The Highlander does just fine with it's full time 4 wheel drive on all
season tires. I do stay home until the plow has been around but would
probably take it out to play if I had real winter tires. In Quebec, it's
the law that you must have winter tires and now all the tire
manufacturers and dealers are doing their best to convince us to do the
same. I haven't bought winter tires in about 35 years....since I switched
to front wheel drive vehicles. (and now..4 wheel drive)
Just had 4 new Michelin premium LTX tires installed to replace the
original equipment Toyota Open Country tires.


Almost all radials these days seem to be rated Mud and Snow. Worse winter
driving I had was a full time 4x4 Bravada I rented in Rochester, MN. Icy
road, and when a tire started to spin the 4x4 would kick in, jerking the
car around. My Blazer, same vehicle, I could lock in the 4x4 and never saw
that problem.

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On 11/23/16 7:33 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:00:25 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I learned my lesson riding a Honda in the snow. I am wondering, though,
how my 4WD Toyota Tacoma will do in the snow. It has
all-terrain/all-season tires, I think, plus a manual transmission, but,
of course, it suffers from the typical pickup truck ailment of not a lot
of weight on the rear tires. I only got the 4WD model because a number
of on-line reports indicated it did well in the snow. We'll see.

The thing you have to remember about 4wd is if you lose the back end,
the front is probably going with it. I hockey pucked my Jeep a few
times on the beltway before I figured out that I should leave it in 2
wheel until I needed it.


Big problem we have with the 4x4 in the Sierra snow, is they drive fast,
forgetting they can not stop quickly, causing major accidents. And the
Japanese 4x4's seem to be worse, as most do not have positraction.



Positraction is just an American manufacturer's name for a limited slip
differential.

The Toyota 4x4's have LSD's.

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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/23/2016 7:32 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:15:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/22/2016 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in
Kansas that
left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling
snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :)

One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people
who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All
it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road
and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-)
I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the
spring.
One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid
for my trip. It sold in a day.

Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few
scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or
clutch lever.

Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in
uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir.
MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when
there was snow on the roads. I
didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really
existed!

That sounds more like a base restriction.

As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I
got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front
wheel but it survived OK.
I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff
missing from the right handlebar.
I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha
paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting
is never stop moving and pulse the valve.


While attending ET school in GLakes I rode a Honda 350 back and forth
from our apartment because my wife needed the car. During the winter
the base would not allow the bike "on base", so I had to park it
outside
the main gate. Wasn't fun riding it in snow and I would never
recommend it.


We disagree. My little Honda 125 was an on/off road bike, didn't have
knobby tires, but they were
almost knobby. I'd take it into the woods at Ft. Belvoir and have a
blast riding in the snow. Wore a
snowmobile suit. Went down a few times, but never anything serious.
Probably put half a dozen new
turn signals on that thing.

But, commuting in the winter with ice and snow is something I sure as
hell wouldn't do now. I
learned that one the hard way.


Actually, I was mistaken about the Honda 350. I had one of them
later. The bike I rode back and forth to the base was a Honda 305
"Super Hawk". It's not an off-road type bike. It's a street bike and
in the snow the tires were basically slicks. I remember riding it
with about 6 inches of snow on the road with both feet out on the
road, sorta "skiing" to keep the bike from sliding out from under me.

Sounds like fun - for a half mile anyway!

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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/23/16 7:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/23/2016 7:32 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:15:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/22/2016 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in
Kansas that
left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling
snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :)

One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from
people
who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle.
All
it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the
road
and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work.
;-)
I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the
spring.
One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid
for my trip. It sold in a day.

Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few
scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or
clutch lever.

Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in
uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir.
MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when
there was snow on the roads. I
didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really
existed!

That sounds more like a base restriction.

As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I
got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the
front
wheel but it survived OK.
I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff
missing from the right handlebar.
I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha
paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting
is never stop moving and pulse the valve.


While attending ET school in GLakes I rode a Honda 350 back and forth
from our apartment because my wife needed the car. During the winter
the base would not allow the bike "on base", so I had to park it
outside
the main gate. Wasn't fun riding it in snow and I would never
recommend it.


We disagree. My little Honda 125 was an on/off road bike, didn't have
knobby tires, but they were
almost knobby. I'd take it into the woods at Ft. Belvoir and have a
blast riding in the snow. Wore a
snowmobile suit. Went down a few times, but never anything serious.
Probably put half a dozen new
turn signals on that thing.

But, commuting in the winter with ice and snow is something I sure as
hell wouldn't do now. I
learned that one the hard way.


Actually, I was mistaken about the Honda 350. I had one of them later.
The bike I rode back and forth to the base was a Honda 305 "Super Hawk".
It's not an off-road type bike. It's a street bike and in the snow the
tires were basically slicks. I remember riding it with about 6 inches
of snow on the road with both feet out on the road, sorta "skiing" to
keep the bike from sliding out from under me.


I learned my lesson riding a Honda in the snow. I am wondering,
though, how my 4WD Toyota Tacoma will do in the snow. It has
all-terrain/all-season tires, I think, plus a manual transmission,
but, of course, it suffers from the typical pickup truck ailment of
not a lot of weight on the rear tires. I only got the 4WD model
because a number of on-line reports indicated it did well in the snow.
We'll see.

4WD and AWD are not the same so it will likely favor the rear wheels and
there probably isn't a system (computer) to adjust for loss of traction
on a single wheel like and AWD system.

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On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 15:14:36 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Keyser Soze
- show quoted text -
"I usually don't wander out until one of the neighbors at the entrance to
our little subdivision emails everyone that the state road there has
been hit at least once by the plow. At that point, I decide whether to
pay the $100 or so to have our driveway plowed. If the truck does as I
hope, I might avoid a few "plow jobs."

The Beltway is a great place to avoid during snowstorms."


The Highlander does just fine with it's full time 4 wheel drive on all season tires. I do stay home until the plow has been around but would probably take it out to play if I had real winter tires. In Quebec, it's the law that you must have winter tires and now all the tire manufacturers and dealers are doing their best to convince us to do the same. I haven't bought winter tires in about 35 years....since I switched to front wheel drive vehicles. (and now..4 wheel drive)
Just had 4 new Michelin premium LTX tires installed to replace the original equipment Toyota Open Country tires.

Down here it seems most steel radial tires are rated M&S (look at the
sidewall).
That is mud and snow.

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Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/23/16 7:33 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:00:25 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I learned my lesson riding a Honda in the snow. I am wondering, though,
how my 4WD Toyota Tacoma will do in the snow. It has
all-terrain/all-season tires, I think, plus a manual transmission, but,
of course, it suffers from the typical pickup truck ailment of not a lot
of weight on the rear tires. I only got the 4WD model because a number
of on-line reports indicated it did well in the snow. We'll see.

The thing you have to remember about 4wd is if you lose the back end,
the front is probably going with it. I hockey pucked my Jeep a few
times on the beltway before I figured out that I should leave it in 2
wheel until I needed it.


Big problem we have with the 4x4 in the Sierra snow, is they drive fast,
forgetting they can not stop quickly, causing major accidents. And the
Japanese 4x4's seem to be worse, as most do not have positraction.



Positraction is just an American manufacturer's name for a limited slip
differential.

The Toyota 4x4's have LSD's.


For years they did not. Maybe it is an option. Positraction is a type of
limited slip differential. Detroit Locker another. The Detroit is better
for drag racing, but can suck on road courses. Positraction has a bunch of
clutch disks that slowly engage, while a Detroit Locker case some cams that
are on or off.

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On 11/24/2016 12:26 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/23/16 7:33 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:00:25 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:


I learned my lesson riding a Honda in the snow. I am wondering, though,
how my 4WD Toyota Tacoma will do in the snow. It has
all-terrain/all-season tires, I think, plus a manual transmission, but,
of course, it suffers from the typical pickup truck ailment of not a lot
of weight on the rear tires. I only got the 4WD model because a number
of on-line reports indicated it did well in the snow. We'll see.

The thing you have to remember about 4wd is if you lose the back end,
the front is probably going with it. I hockey pucked my Jeep a few
times on the beltway before I figured out that I should leave it in 2
wheel until I needed it.


Big problem we have with the 4x4 in the Sierra snow, is they drive fast,
forgetting they can not stop quickly, causing major accidents. And the
Japanese 4x4's seem to be worse, as most do not have positraction.



Positraction is just an American manufacturer's name for a limited slip
differential.

The Toyota 4x4's have LSD's.


For years they did not. Maybe it is an option. Positraction is a type of
limited slip differential. Detroit Locker another. The Detroit is better
for drag racing, but can suck on road courses. Positraction has a bunch of
clutch disks that slowly engage, while a Detroit Locker case some cams that
are on or off.


I don't think today's limited slip differential is the same as the old
positraction of years ago. During the muscle car era some of the old
Pontiacs had "Positraction" and both rear tires would leave rubber when
you got on it. Can't do that with a limited slip differencial. I think
just about all pickup trucks have LSD on the rear ... 4x4 or not.

Harry mentioned a pickup's lack of weight on the rear tires. I really
am not sure how much that affects driving in snow. I've put over a 1000
lbs of weight in the bed of my F-250 to experiment when plowing and I
don't think it has any more traction ... meaning driving slowly up a
hill in snow ... than when the bed is empty. It will lose traction
going up the hill and the only way to make the climb is to engage four
wheel drive. Our previous house had a fairly steep section of driveway.
I once had to hook a chain onto an oil delivery truck and help him get
up the slope with my truck. Plenty of weight on the dual rear wheels of
that oil truck.

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On Monday, November 21, 2016 at 8:40:02 AM UTC-6, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 11/21/16 9:05 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 11/20/16 11:17 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 8:14:53 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 12:37:40 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Our gas is 96 cents a liter right now.

That would be almost $4US a gallon and we are paying less than $2 in
Ft Myers.

1.82per gal in Effingham IL today. And that's whith gobs of taxes applied per gal. too



And not only that, but Effingham has an ugly steel cross that its
sponsors believe is one of the "largest" in the United States, 198 feet
tall, making the town a "must see" for, well, I suppose, cross lovers
looking for cheap gasoline.



Anyone ever tell you you're weird?


Weird is setting up a 198-foot tall steel cross in a secular little U.S.
town.

What little town would that be Krause? Where you go shopping for your hand bandages and incontinence supplies??