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Poquito Loco November 23rd 16 12:40 PM

Ping: Greg
 
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 19:09:13 -0500, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 16:06:36 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 15:57:33 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 13:56:29 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 11/22/16 12:19 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that
left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling
snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :)

One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people
who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All
it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road
and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-)
I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring.
One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid
for my trip. It sold in a day.

Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or
clutch lever.

Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir.
MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I
didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed!

That sounds more like a base restriction.

As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I
got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front
wheel but it survived OK.
I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff
missing from the right handlebar.
I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha
paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting
is never stop moving and pulse the valve.


I wonder if "survival" of bike and rider is as true today, what with the
much more massive bikes and faster speeds and plastic parts...

If you have a road bike with crash bars and you can just lay it down,
stay tucked in and you will be OK as a general rule but hitting
something head on is always bad.
The only time I ever laid a bike down or even got hurt was dirt
riding. My Benelli was fun out in the woods but I did crash a few
times


You do realize that a bike sliding on its side has less traction than an upright bike with the
brakes applied. Laying a bike down looks good in the movies, but the bike will stop faster with the
brakes.


I am not talking about intentionally laying it down but that can just
happen if you get to aggressive with the brakes, particularly in the
woods.


Agreed! The woods is different! There are trees there than *will* just jump right out in front of
you. And hitting the brakes while on loose gravel or wet leaves is a good way to test your 'quick
dismount' skills.

OTOH
If you are going to hit something, having tires and springs out in
front is better than counting on your face shield to save you. ;-)



Mr. Luddite November 23rd 16 12:42 PM

Ping: Greg
 
On 11/23/2016 7:32 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:15:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/22/2016 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that
left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling
snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :)

One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people
who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All
it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road
and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-)
I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring.
One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid
for my trip. It sold in a day.

Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or
clutch lever.

Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir.
MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I
didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed!

That sounds more like a base restriction.

As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I
got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front
wheel but it survived OK.
I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff
missing from the right handlebar.
I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha
paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting
is never stop moving and pulse the valve.


While attending ET school in GLakes I rode a Honda 350 back and forth
from our apartment because my wife needed the car. During the winter
the base would not allow the bike "on base", so I had to park it outside
the main gate. Wasn't fun riding it in snow and I would never recommend it.


We disagree. My little Honda 125 was an on/off road bike, didn't have knobby tires, but they were
almost knobby. I'd take it into the woods at Ft. Belvoir and have a blast riding in the snow. Wore a
snowmobile suit. Went down a few times, but never anything serious. Probably put half a dozen new
turn signals on that thing.

But, commuting in the winter with ice and snow is something I sure as hell wouldn't do now. I
learned that one the hard way.


Actually, I was mistaken about the Honda 350. I had one of them later.
The bike I rode back and forth to the base was a Honda 305 "Super Hawk".
It's not an off-road type bike. It's a street bike and in the snow the
tires were basically slicks. I remember riding it with about 6 inches
of snow on the road with both feet out on the road, sorta "skiing" to
keep the bike from sliding out from under me.

Keyser Soze November 23rd 16 01:00 PM

Ping: Greg
 
On 11/23/16 7:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/23/2016 7:32 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:15:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/22/2016 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in
Kansas that
left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling
snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :)

One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people
who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All
it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road
and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-)
I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring.
One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid
for my trip. It sold in a day.

Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few
scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or
clutch lever.

Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in
uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir.
MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when
there was snow on the roads. I
didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed!

That sounds more like a base restriction.

As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I
got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front
wheel but it survived OK.
I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff
missing from the right handlebar.
I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha
paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting
is never stop moving and pulse the valve.


While attending ET school in GLakes I rode a Honda 350 back and forth
from our apartment because my wife needed the car. During the winter
the base would not allow the bike "on base", so I had to park it outside
the main gate. Wasn't fun riding it in snow and I would never
recommend it.


We disagree. My little Honda 125 was an on/off road bike, didn't have
knobby tires, but they were
almost knobby. I'd take it into the woods at Ft. Belvoir and have a
blast riding in the snow. Wore a
snowmobile suit. Went down a few times, but never anything serious.
Probably put half a dozen new
turn signals on that thing.

But, commuting in the winter with ice and snow is something I sure as
hell wouldn't do now. I
learned that one the hard way.


Actually, I was mistaken about the Honda 350. I had one of them later.
The bike I rode back and forth to the base was a Honda 305 "Super Hawk".
It's not an off-road type bike. It's a street bike and in the snow the
tires were basically slicks. I remember riding it with about 6 inches
of snow on the road with both feet out on the road, sorta "skiing" to
keep the bike from sliding out from under me.



I learned my lesson riding a Honda in the snow. I am wondering, though,
how my 4WD Toyota Tacoma will do in the snow. It has
all-terrain/all-season tires, I think, plus a manual transmission, but,
of course, it suffers from the typical pickup truck ailment of not a lot
of weight on the rear tires. I only got the 4WD model because a number
of on-line reports indicated it did well in the snow. We'll see.


Poquito Loco November 23rd 16 01:00 PM

Ping: Greg
 
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 07:23:24 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/22/2016 7:04 PM, wrote:

Hope you and the bike heal 100%.


Thanks.
I need to start taking it slower, or as my wife asked me, "are you finished playing in the dirt now..
I guess I just don't heal as well as I used to.



Frankly, the main reason I sold my last motorcycle was because I was
starting to feel less comfortable with my reflexes and ability to avoid
potential accidents. Never had a major issue but in your 60's your
reaction time (for most of us anyway) just isn't the same as in your
30's. That, plus the fact that the bike (Harley Ultra Classic) was
close to 900lbs and was becoming a bit of a chore to push around. Maybe
if I had kept a Softail or something a bit lighter, I would still be riding.


My next ride:
http://www.motorscooterguide.net/Hon...ilverwing.html,
for the reasons you cited.

Poquito Loco November 23rd 16 01:06 PM

Ping: Greg
 
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 07:42:12 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/23/2016 7:32 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:15:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/22/2016 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in Kansas that
left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling
snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :)

One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people
who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All
it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road
and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-)
I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring.
One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid
for my trip. It sold in a day.

Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or
clutch lever.

Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir.
MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when there was snow on the roads. I
didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed!

That sounds more like a base restriction.

As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I
got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front
wheel but it survived OK.
I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff
missing from the right handlebar.
I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha
paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting
is never stop moving and pulse the valve.


While attending ET school in GLakes I rode a Honda 350 back and forth
from our apartment because my wife needed the car. During the winter
the base would not allow the bike "on base", so I had to park it outside
the main gate. Wasn't fun riding it in snow and I would never recommend it.


We disagree. My little Honda 125 was an on/off road bike, didn't have knobby tires, but they were
almost knobby. I'd take it into the woods at Ft. Belvoir and have a blast riding in the snow. Wore a
snowmobile suit. Went down a few times, but never anything serious. Probably put half a dozen new
turn signals on that thing.

But, commuting in the winter with ice and snow is something I sure as hell wouldn't do now. I
learned that one the hard way.


Actually, I was mistaken about the Honda 350. I had one of them later.
The bike I rode back and forth to the base was a Honda 305 "Super Hawk".
It's not an off-road type bike. It's a street bike and in the snow the
tires were basically slicks. I remember riding it with about 6 inches
of snow on the road with both feet out on the road, sorta "skiing" to
keep the bike from sliding out from under me.


It's a bitch on asphalt. The damn back tire wants to slide one way while the front's going the
other.

Poquito Loco November 23rd 16 01:08 PM

Ping: Greg
 
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:00:25 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 11/23/16 7:42 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/23/2016 7:32 AM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:15:46 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/22/2016 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:55:10 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 10:20:56 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 08:30:44 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I got rid of my first motorcycle after a bizarre accident in
Kansas that
left both me and the bike uninjured, thanks to a quickly falling
snowstorm. Traded the Honda for a nice, safe, used Chevy. :)

One of my best sources for rice burning motor cycles was from people
who bought them thinking they were the perfect commuter vehicle. All
it took was the first wisp of snow or a little black ice on the road
and they were real cheap but they usually needed a little work. ;-)
I put them back together, shined them up and sold them in the spring.
One year I threw a Honda 350 in my van, took it to Florida and paid
for my trip. It sold in a day.

Going down on ice usually doesn't do any severe damage...few
scratches, turn signals, maybe brake or
clutch lever.

Experience talking...luckily with a small Honda 125. I was in
uniform going to work at Ft. Belvoir.
MPs stopped and told me I wasn't allowed to ride a motorcycle when
there was snow on the roads. I
didn't challenge him, but I still wonder if that 'law' really existed!

That sounds more like a base restriction.

As for damage, you do OK unless you hit something. The RD350 Yammy I
got cheap had 2 bent fork tubes. I thought I would be truing the front
wheel but it survived OK.
I had to paint the tank on a 125 I picked up and replace some stuff
missing from the right handlebar.
I learned how to paint with rattle cans in those days. The Yamaha
paint job was a 3 step process. The trick, as with any spray painting
is never stop moving and pulse the valve.


While attending ET school in GLakes I rode a Honda 350 back and forth
from our apartment because my wife needed the car. During the winter
the base would not allow the bike "on base", so I had to park it outside
the main gate. Wasn't fun riding it in snow and I would never
recommend it.


We disagree. My little Honda 125 was an on/off road bike, didn't have
knobby tires, but they were
almost knobby. I'd take it into the woods at Ft. Belvoir and have a
blast riding in the snow. Wore a
snowmobile suit. Went down a few times, but never anything serious.
Probably put half a dozen new
turn signals on that thing.

But, commuting in the winter with ice and snow is something I sure as
hell wouldn't do now. I
learned that one the hard way.


Actually, I was mistaken about the Honda 350. I had one of them later.
The bike I rode back and forth to the base was a Honda 305 "Super Hawk".
It's not an off-road type bike. It's a street bike and in the snow the
tires were basically slicks. I remember riding it with about 6 inches
of snow on the road with both feet out on the road, sorta "skiing" to
keep the bike from sliding out from under me.



I learned my lesson riding a Honda in the snow. I am wondering, though,
how my 4WD Toyota Tacoma will do in the snow. It has
all-terrain/all-season tires, I think, plus a manual transmission, but,
of course, it suffers from the typical pickup truck ailment of not a lot
of weight on the rear tires. I only got the 4WD model because a number
of on-line reports indicated it did well in the snow. We'll see.


With a manual tranny and four-wheel drive you should have no problem whatsoever, assuming you know
how to ride a clutch a bit and start in second gear when on slick stuff.

[email protected] November 23rd 16 04:05 PM

Ping: Greg
 
On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 5:00:42 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 07:23:24 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/22/2016 7:04 PM, wrote:

Hope you and the bike heal 100%.

Thanks.
I need to start taking it slower, or as my wife asked me, "are you finished playing in the dirt now..
I guess I just don't heal as well as I used to.



Frankly, the main reason I sold my last motorcycle was because I was
starting to feel less comfortable with my reflexes and ability to avoid
potential accidents. Never had a major issue but in your 60's your
reaction time (for most of us anyway) just isn't the same as in your
30's. That, plus the fact that the bike (Harley Ultra Classic) was
close to 900lbs and was becoming a bit of a chore to push around. Maybe
if I had kept a Softail or something a bit lighter, I would still be riding.


My next ride:
http://www.motorscooterguide.net/Hon...ilverwing.html,
for the reasons you cited.


I'm into Adventure bikes as you know, Honda is coming out with the ADV X model scooter and is something I'd consider if they bring it to the US market.
I'm at that age also where throwing my leg over a tall ADV bike ends with me kicking at it half the time these days.

Tim November 23rd 16 04:34 PM

Ping: Greg
 

10:05
- show quoted text -
I'm into Adventure bikes as you know, Honda is coming out with the ADV X model scooter and is something I'd consider if they bring it to the US market..
I'm at that age also where throwing my leg over a tall ADV bike ends with me kicking at it half the time these days.
.....

I can apreciate that. That's one advantage of having a Guzzi jackal. They're low slung so mount and dismount is a breeze. The trade off is that at being almost 6'4" tall you're sitting with your knees wrapped around your ears and riding hard on your butt bone. I find that he'll seats or cushions can be your best friend at times...

Poquito Loco November 23rd 16 04:51 PM

Ping: Greg
 
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:05:31 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 5:00:42 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 07:23:24 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/22/2016 7:04 PM,
wrote:

Hope you and the bike heal 100%.

Thanks.
I need to start taking it slower, or as my wife asked me, "are you finished playing in the dirt now..
I guess I just don't heal as well as I used to.



Frankly, the main reason I sold my last motorcycle was because I was
starting to feel less comfortable with my reflexes and ability to avoid
potential accidents. Never had a major issue but in your 60's your
reaction time (for most of us anyway) just isn't the same as in your
30's. That, plus the fact that the bike (Harley Ultra Classic) was
close to 900lbs and was becoming a bit of a chore to push around. Maybe
if I had kept a Softail or something a bit lighter, I would still be riding.


My next ride:
http://www.motorscooterguide.net/Hon...ilverwing.html,
for the reasons you cited.


I'm into Adventure bikes as you know, Honda is coming out with the ADV X model scooter and is something I'd consider if they bring it to the US market.
I'm at that age also where throwing my leg over a tall ADV bike ends with me kicking at it half the time these days.


I did that with the Mille at a McDonalds on the way to North Carolina. The bike was on it's
starboard (boating related) side up close to a curb. I could not get enough of a grip to get it up.
Luckily a guy I'd been talking to inside saw the action and came out to help.

Embarrassing as hell though!

Poquito Loco November 23rd 16 04:55 PM

Ping: Greg
 
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 08:34:46 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:


10:05
- show quoted text -
I'm into Adventure bikes as you know, Honda is coming out with the ADV X model scooter and is something I'd consider if they bring it to the US market.
I'm at that age also where throwing my leg over a tall ADV bike ends with me kicking at it half the time these days.
....

I can apreciate that. That's one advantage of having a Guzzi jackal. They're low slung so mount and dismount is a breeze. The trade off is that at being almost 6'4" tall you're sitting with your knees wrapped around your ears and riding hard on your butt bone. I find that he'll seats or cushions can be your best friend at times...


This thing saves my butt. A bit pricey, but put it on your Christmas list and then you don't have to
pay for it!

https://www.amazon.com/Pro-Pad-Fabri...W64HF9NRG81BPD


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