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On 9/7/16 3:32 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 10:50 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/6/16 11:43 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:

Why would I want Navy electronics training?

I know, it is a science, you are an artist.


I took and got A's in a good number of university math and
science classes.
As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I
want navy
electronics training?

I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could
learn
in 6 weeks, go for it.


Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense

Why is learning things faster anti intellectual?
It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common
denominator
and call it being intellectual. How is that right?
It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones
that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing.
Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you
quickly, go
much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo
and
if you can't keep up, you get kicked out.
Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy
school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me
and my private school was barely holding my attention.
Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I
will
ace your test.



Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other
than
by rote.

Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and
you do not get that in school . . .

Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took.

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.


You forgot something. They are also racists.


There's no question a significant percentage of Trump supporters are
racists.

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On 9/7/2016 11:16 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:03 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:50:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 8:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/6/2016 9:12 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/6/16 8:11 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:00:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:



Not if you got in...

I doubt you would get much more than the statistical guessing average
(~25%) on the ETST (a test that is a prereq for Navy electronics
training)


Why would I want Navy electronics training?


Not to worry. You wouldn't qualify for it anyway.



You mean, my soldering and assembling a half dozen Radio Shack kits
(from the Crown Street store) while I was in junior high and high
school, my ability to take completely apart and properly reassemble
outboard motors and lawnmower engines, and my A's and B's in algebra,
geometry, chemistry, calculus, and physics in high school wouldn't have
done it for me? Damn! Then I guess I would have had to go to college and
not join the navy. Drats!


Did you actually understand how those "kits" worked and how to find
which part was bad when they didn't? If I showed you a wave form,
could you identify the circuit that created it?


My dad knew and he sorta showed me at his shop, or one of his
moonlighting part-timers did (he had a couple of guys who were senior
techs at Sikorsky). I didn't say I had the knowledge of a trained
electronics tech, but I am sure I could have learned if I wanted to do
so. I did "ace" physics, calc, and chem in high school, and these were
all AP courses taught in small classes by first-rate, no-nonsense teachers.


I'm sure you had first rate teachers. Problem is you were a 3rd rate
learner.
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On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 10:50 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/6/16 11:43 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:

Why would I want Navy electronics training?

I know, it is a science, you are an artist.


I took and got A's in a good number of university math and
science classes.
As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I
want navy
electronics training?

I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could
learn
in 6 weeks, go for it.


Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense

Why is learning things faster anti intellectual?
It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common
denominator
and call it being intellectual. How is that right?
It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones
that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing.
Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you
quickly, go
much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo
and
if you can't keep up, you get kicked out.
Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy
school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me
and my private school was barely holding my attention.
Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I
will
ace your test.



Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other
than
by rote.

Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and
you do not get that in school . . .

Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took.


I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.

Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make
something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't going
anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr.
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On 9/7/2016 12:27 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 12:21 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:03:30 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 11:47 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Why do you seem to insist that there is only *one* path to education?

I suppose for the same reason he thinks the only path to anything is
the one he took. Yet he ended up sitting on a bus for a couple hours a
day going to work at a time in his life when he should be retired and
enjoying his boat.


And once again, you demonstrate your inability to comprehend...
I never have thought or stated that the educational path I took is the
only one.

I do indeed take about one round trip bustrip a week to downtown DC to
see clients because I like working and my clients
still think I have the skills to help them in their endeavors. As I have
stated several times here, I have many friends and colleagues my age and
older who are still actively working part-time because they like it and
they still have the ability to contribute.


In other words your plan is to die at your desk working.



My plan is to work part-time for as long as I feel like working
part-time. I enjoy the work, the intellectual stimulation, the meeting
with clients, the production of work product that helps people. I'm not
the sort of guy who would like to fill his day with your jar of honey-do
jobs.

I'm a candidate to be named to a board of an NGO that helps locals in
Africa and Central and South America build and hold onto sustainable
communities. To me, that is a lot more worthwhile and interesting than
rebuilding an outdoor bar. To each his own.


Be a little suspicious when they ask for your bank account number and SS
Number.


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On 9/7/16 6:21 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 11:16 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:03 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:50:42 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 8:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/6/2016 9:12 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/6/16 8:11 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 20:00:32 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:



Not if you got in...

I doubt you would get much more than the statistical guessing
average
(~25%) on the ETST (a test that is a prereq for Navy electronics
training)


Why would I want Navy electronics training?


Not to worry. You wouldn't qualify for it anyway.



You mean, my soldering and assembling a half dozen Radio Shack kits
(from the Crown Street store) while I was in junior high and high
school, my ability to take completely apart and properly reassemble
outboard motors and lawnmower engines, and my A's and B's in algebra,
geometry, chemistry, calculus, and physics in high school wouldn't have
done it for me? Damn! Then I guess I would have had to go to college
and
not join the navy. Drats!

Did you actually understand how those "kits" worked and how to find
which part was bad when they didn't? If I showed you a wave form,
could you identify the circuit that created it?


My dad knew and he sorta showed me at his shop, or one of his
moonlighting part-timers did (he had a couple of guys who were senior
techs at Sikorsky). I didn't say I had the knowledge of a trained
electronics tech, but I am sure I could have learned if I wanted to do
so. I did "ace" physics, calc, and chem in high school, and these were
all AP courses taught in small classes by first-rate, no-nonsense
teachers.


I'm sure you had first rate teachers. Problem is you were a 3rd rate
learner.


No, stupid...you had to take tests to get into the AP classes. You, on
the other hand, seemingly did not have what it took to get into an open
admission community college.
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On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 10:50 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/6/16 11:43 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:

Why would I want Navy electronics training?

I know, it is a science, you are an artist.


I took and got A's in a good number of university math and
science classes.
As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I
want navy
electronics training?

I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could
learn
in 6 weeks, go for it.


Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense

Why is learning things faster anti intellectual?
It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common
denominator
and call it being intellectual. How is that right?
It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones
that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing.
Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you
quickly, go
much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo
and
if you can't keep up, you get kicked out.
Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy
school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me
and my private school was barely holding my attention.
Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I
will
ace your test.



Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other
than
by rote.

Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and
you do not get that in school . . .

Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took.

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.

Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make
something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't going
anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr.


You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of great
accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold?
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On 9/7/16 6:27 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 12:27 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 12:21 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:03:30 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 11:47 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Why do you seem to insist that there is only *one* path to education?

I suppose for the same reason he thinks the only path to anything is
the one he took. Yet he ended up sitting on a bus for a couple hours a
day going to work at a time in his life when he should be retired and
enjoying his boat.


And once again, you demonstrate your inability to comprehend...
I never have thought or stated that the educational path I took is the
only one.

I do indeed take about one round trip bustrip a week to downtown DC to
see clients because I like working and my clients
still think I have the skills to help them in their endeavors. As I
have
stated several times here, I have many friends and colleagues my age
and
older who are still actively working part-time because they like it and
they still have the ability to contribute.

In other words your plan is to die at your desk working.



My plan is to work part-time for as long as I feel like working
part-time. I enjoy the work, the intellectual stimulation, the meeting
with clients, the production of work product that helps people. I'm not
the sort of guy who would like to fill his day with your jar of honey-do
jobs.

I'm a candidate to be named to a board of an NGO that helps locals in
Africa and Central and South America build and hold onto sustainable
communities. To me, that is a lot more worthwhile and interesting than
rebuilding an outdoor bar. To each his own.


Be a little suspicious when they ask for your bank account number and SS
Number.


Naw...they aren't your family of Nigerian bankers.
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Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 10:50 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/6/16 11:43 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:

Why would I want Navy electronics training?

I know, it is a science, you are an artist.


I took and got A's in a good number of university math and
science classes.
As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I
want navy
electronics training?

I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could
learn
in 6 weeks, go for it.


Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense

Why is learning things faster anti intellectual?
It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common
denominator
and call it being intellectual. How is that right?
It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones
that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing.
Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you
quickly, go
much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo
and
if you can't keep up, you get kicked out.
Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy
school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me
and my private school was barely holding my attention.
Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I
will
ace your test.



Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other
than
by rote.

Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and
you do not get that in school . . .

Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took.

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.

Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make
something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't going
anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr.


You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of great
accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold?


Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a
home. Putting it simply, you are a loserKrauster.
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On 9/7/16 6:47 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 10:50 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/6/16 11:43 PM,
wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:

Why would I want Navy electronics training?

I know, it is a science, you are an artist.


I took and got A's in a good number of university math and
science classes.
As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I
want navy
electronics training?

I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could
learn
in 6 weeks, go for it.


Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense

Why is learning things faster anti intellectual?
It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common
denominator
and call it being intellectual. How is that right?
It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones
that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing.
Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you
quickly, go
much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo
and
if you can't keep up, you get kicked out.
Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy
school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me
and my private school was barely holding my attention.
Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I
will
ace your test.



Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other
than
by rote.

Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and
you do not get that in school . . .

Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took.

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.

Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make
something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't going
anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr.


You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of great
accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold?


Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a
home. Putting it simply, you are a loser
Krauster.



Funny stuff, bozo. So, what sort of job did Mrs. Oldfart hold?
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