On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:

Why would I want Navy electronics training?

I know, it is a science, you are an artist.


I took and got A's in a good number of university math and science classes.
As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I want navy
electronics training?

I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could learn
in 6 weeks, go for it.


Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense

Why is learning things faster anti intellectual?
It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common denominator
and call it being intellectual. How is that right?
It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones
that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing.
Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you quickly, go
much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo and
if you can't keep up, you get kicked out.
Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy
school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me
and my private school was barely holding my attention.
Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I will
ace your test.



Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other than
by rote.

Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and
you do not get that in school . . .

Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took.

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.

On 9/7/16 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Why do you seem to insist that there is only *one* path to education?

I suppose for the same reason he thinks the only path to anything is
the one he took. Yet he ended up sitting on a bus for a couple hours a
day going to work at a time in his life when he should be retired and
enjoying his boat.


And once again, you demonstrate your inability to comprehend...
I never have thought or stated that the educational path I took is the
only one.

I do indeed take about one round trip bustrip a week to downtown DC to
see clients because I like working and my clients
still think I have the skills to help them in their endeavors. As I have
stated several times here, I have many friends and colleagues my age and
older who are still actively working part-time because they like it and
they still have the ability to contribute.

Why do you think your way is the only path? I'd go nuts if pretty much
all I had to do in life was work on a never-ending "honey do" list, take
my dog boating, and go on the occasional out of town vacation.

On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 11:55:00 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.

We have a whole generation of people thinking abstractly while
sleeping on their parent's couch and watching TV all day because they
can't find a job. (94 million as we speak)
Maybe a little trade education is what we need.
I know you are infatuated with the Europeans, particularly the Germans
and Scandinavians. That is how they do it.

On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:03:30 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Why do you seem to insist that there is only *one* path to education?

I suppose for the same reason he thinks the only path to anything is
the one he took. Yet he ended up sitting on a bus for a couple hours a
day going to work at a time in his life when he should be retired and
enjoying his boat.


And once again, you demonstrate your inability to comprehend...
I never have thought or stated that the educational path I took is the
only one.

I do indeed take about one round trip bustrip a week to downtown DC to
see clients because I like working and my clients
still think I have the skills to help them in their endeavors. As I have
stated several times here, I have many friends and colleagues my age and
older who are still actively working part-time because they like it and
they still have the ability to contribute.

In other words your plan is to die at your desk working.

Why do you think your way is the only path? I'd go nuts if pretty much
all I had to do in life was work on a never-ending "honey do" list, take
my dog boating, and go on the occasional out of town vacation.

It is called having a life that goes beyond having a job.

On 9/7/16 12:21 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:03:30 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Why do you seem to insist that there is only *one* path to education?

I suppose for the same reason he thinks the only path to anything is
the one he took. Yet he ended up sitting on a bus for a couple hours a
day going to work at a time in his life when he should be retired and
enjoying his boat.


And once again, you demonstrate your inability to comprehend...
I never have thought or stated that the educational path I took is the
only one.

I do indeed take about one round trip bustrip a week to downtown DC to
see clients because I like working and my clients
still think I have the skills to help them in their endeavors. As I have
stated several times here, I have many friends and colleagues my age and
older who are still actively working part-time because they like it and
they still have the ability to contribute.

In other words your plan is to die at your desk working.



My plan is to work part-time for as long as I feel like working
part-time. I enjoy the work, the intellectual stimulation, the meeting
with clients, the production of work product that helps people. I'm not
the sort of guy who would like to fill his day with your jar of honey-do
jobs.

I'm a candidate to be named to a board of an NGO that helps locals in
Africa and Central and South America build and hold onto sustainable
communities. To me, that is a lot more worthwhile and interesting than
rebuilding an outdoor bar. To each his own.

On 9/7/16 12:19 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 11:55:00 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.

We have a whole generation of people thinking abstractly while
sleeping on their parent's couch and watching TV all day because they
can't find a job. (94 million as we speak)
Maybe a little trade education is what we need.
I know you are infatuated with the Europeans, particularly the Germans
and Scandinavians. That is how they do it.


I hear there is really good money in rebuilding tiki bars.

wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 11:55:00 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.

We have a whole generation of people thinking abstractly while
sleeping on their parent's couch and watching TV all day because they
can't find a job. (94 million as we speak)
Maybe a little trade education is what we need.
I know you are infatuated with the Europeans, particularly the Germans
and Scandinavians. That is how they do it.


Worse thing we did, and the California college leaders admitted it a couple
years later was to drop industrial arts courses and make all paths College
Prep, and to learn a trade go to Community College or a state university.
One of the major reasons for high drop out rates from primary schools.

wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:03:30 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 11:47 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:10:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Why do you seem to insist that there is only *one* path to education?

I suppose for the same reason he thinks the only path to anything is
the one he took. Yet he ended up sitting on a bus for a couple hours a
day going to work at a time in his life when he should be retired and
enjoying his boat.


And once again, you demonstrate your inability to comprehend...
I never have thought or stated that the educational path I took is the
only one.

I do indeed take about one round trip bustrip a week to downtown DC to
see clients because I like working and my clients
still think I have the skills to help them in their endeavors. As I have
stated several times here, I have many friends and colleagues my age and
older who are still actively working part-time because they like it and
they still have the ability to contribute.

In other words your plan is to die at your desk working.

Why do you think your way is the only path? I'd go nuts if pretty much
all I had to do in life was work on a never-ending "honey do" list, take
my dog boating, and go on the occasional out of town vacation.

It is called having a life that goes beyond having a job.


Big problem for a lot of people. No life outside work. My dad was
management at UC Berkeley in building and grounds and during a strike he
was kept busy fixing the normal broke stuff and the sabotage by the union
strikers. After the strike, he took early retirement at 55 due to
animosity at fixing sabotage. Problem he retired to his lake property, and
other than the 3 months of summer, most of the social activity was at the
local bar. Cancer may not have killed him at 68, if he had stayed local to
where we grew up.

On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 12:28:01 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


I hear there is really good money in rebuilding tiki bars.

Certainly good money in not paying other people to do all sorts of
things. I am not a one trick pony.

On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:

Why would I want Navy electronics training?

I know, it is a science, you are an artist.


I took and got A's in a good number of university math and
science classes.
As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why would I
want navy
electronics training?

I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you could
learn
in 6 weeks, go for it.


Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense

Why is learning things faster anti intellectual?
It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common
denominator
and call it being intellectual. How is that right?
It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are the ones
that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing.
Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you
quickly, go
much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster tempo
and
if you can't keep up, you get kicked out.
Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the navy
school was not really challenging me. Public school was a joke to me
and my private school was barely holding my attention.
Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction and I
will
ace your test.



Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn other
than
by rote.

Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is "experience" and
you do not get that in school . . .

Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took.

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think "trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.


You forgot something. They are also racists.