On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:50:24 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 11/14/2015 7:09 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Trump has a plan. Bomb the **** out of them, Vote Trump. Or let Hillary
deal with it in her own mysterious ways. Snerk!

Hillary will bomb the **** out of them too. The democrats love
standoff wars where they can kill people with little danger to the
killers themselves ... until the friends of the dead come here and
kill us.

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:52:32 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

We still owe them for 9-11.

Owe who? The Saudis?

On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 08:31:05 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/14/2015 8:24 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/14/15 7:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?


Don't know what Greg will say, but here's my suggestion:

Honor all formal agreements we have with our allies
and expect them to honor the agreements in return.

Think twice about what kind and who we sign any new agreements with.

Let non-allies, including those nations that are predominately
Muslim deal with Islamic fundamentalist movements like ISIS on their own.

The only reason we are involved is because we stick our nose where
it doesn't belong and we have little or no understanding of what
motivates the different, religious based Islamic followers.

If they attack us ... or any of our allies ... fight back hard, but
otherwise mind our own business.

If you are a journalist or world do-gooder and value your life, stay
the hell out of the areas of the world being controlled by the likes
of ISIS. Otherwise, don't expect your government to come and save your
ass or expect retaliation because you got killed.


"If they attack us..."

I'm not sure how we fight back hard, since the attackers are not
necessarily from a country with an actual government. Apparently the
attackers on Paris, or at least some of them, were Syrians. What do we
do? Invade Syria?


No. A response is dependent on good intel as to where the "brains"
(command and control) exist and take them out. If it happens to be
in Syria, so be it.

When you are talking about attacks like Paris, there wasn't a lot of
brain power involved. We have teenagers here who can come up with
plots that complicated in their bedroom. The major difference is the
attackers are suspected of being battle tested "freedom fighters" from
Syria who were better at shooting people.

I would not be shocked to hear that the blueprints for attacks like
this were on dark web sites, pretty hard to bomb.

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2015 7:09 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws?
Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?


Don't know what Greg will say, but here's my suggestion:

Honor all formal agreements we have with our allies
and expect them to honor the agreements in return.

Think twice about what kind and who we sign any new agreements with.

Let non-allies, including those nations that are predominately
Muslim deal with Islamic fundamentalist movements like ISIS on their own.

The only reason we are involved is because we stick our nose where
it doesn't belong and we have little or no understanding of what
motivates the different, religious based Islamic followers.

If they attack us ... or any of our allies ... fight back hard, but
otherwise mind our own business.

If you are a journalist or world do-gooder and value your life, stay
the hell out of the areas of the world being controlled by the likes
of ISIS. Otherwise, don't expect your government to come and save your
ass or expect retaliation because you got killed.








I agree wholeheartedly.

On 11/14/15 10:58 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:09:49 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws? Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees" from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Let Putin do it. The only reason any of those groups threaten us is
because we are bombing them.


A. The Russians are no better at shutting down terrorists in
underdeveloped countries than we are and in its own way, Syria is as
underdeveloped as Afghanistan.

B. Oh, there's a lot more to it than that.

On 11/14/15 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:50:24 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 11/14/2015 7:09 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Trump has a plan. Bomb the **** out of them, Vote Trump. Or let Hillary
deal with it in her own mysterious ways. Snerk!

Hillary will bomb the **** out of them too. The democrats love
standoff wars where they can kill people with little danger to the
killers themselves ... until the friends of the dead come here and
kill us.



If you want World War III, vote Trump.

On 11/14/2015 8:14 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2015 7:52 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/14/2015 7:29 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 11/14/2015 7:09 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/14/15 12:29 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:59:09 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
...or juvenile delinquents.

Maybe the threat will be taken seriously.

And, doesn't France have some very stringent gun control laws?
Shame someone in the
concert wasn't carrying.

French borders closed. Should tell us something.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


This isn't the time for your right wing insanity.


Maybe not time for left wing insanity. Let a bunch of "refugees"
from
Syria, etc. in?

France is lousy with militant muslims. It has been that way for a
while, certainly since the 50s when they had their "Algerian" problem.
Things are just heating up.
I think we ain't seen nothin yet. These terrorists have infiltrated
most of western Europe, hidden in with the refugees.


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?


Don't know what Greg will say, but here's my suggestion:

Honor all formal agreements we have with our allies
and expect them to honor the agreements in return.

Think twice about what kind and who we sign any new agreements with.

Let non-allies, including those nations that are predominately
Muslim deal with Islamic fundamentalist movements like ISIS on their
own.

The only reason we are involved is because we stick our nose where
it doesn't belong and we have little or no understanding of what
motivates the different, religious based Islamic followers.

If they attack us ... or any of our allies ... fight back hard, but
otherwise mind our own business.

If you are a journalist or world do-gooder and value your life, stay
the hell out of the areas of the world being controlled by the likes
of ISIS. Otherwise, don't expect your government to come and save your
ass or expect retaliation because you got killed.






We still owe them for 9-11.

9/11 wasn't orchestrated by ISIS. bin Laden is dead and you don't hear
much about al Qaeda anymore. In fact, what remains of al Qaeda is at
odds with ISIS.

We've been meddling in the middle east for decades, going back to Reagan
and probably before. Isn't it time we realized it's a different
culture that we can't fully understand and we can't force *our* way upon
them?


You can't call destroying antiquities, mass murder,and beheading
infidels culture.

Kalif Swill's...

"And our leaders want to let in 50,000 "refugees ". "


Drop in the bucket. Our new Prime Minister pledged to bring in 25,000 by the end of the year whether we're ready or not.
At that rate you should be bringing that many into Kalifornia alone.

On 11/14/2015 11:50 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 11/14/15 11:07 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:50:24 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 11/14/2015 7:09 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


Other than our deserting Israel, what's your Libertarian idea for
handing ISIS?

Trump has a plan. Bomb the **** out of them, Vote Trump. Or let Hillary
deal with it in her own mysterious ways. Snerk!

Hillary will bomb the **** out of them too. The democrats love
standoff wars where they can kill people with little danger to the
killers themselves ... until the friends of the dead come here and
kill us.



If you want World War III, vote Trump.


At this point I think WW III is inevitable. Just a matter of time.
Russia and maybe even China may end up being allies.

John H.
- show quoted text -
"Does that have something to do with what happened in France?

Your comments are as stupid as Don's."



My, my.....you seem to be constipated with your rancor JohnnyMop. Can I recommend a good laxative?