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On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400,
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On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
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On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
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Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them.

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.


Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.


Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.


And that's SC, right? So, I'd lose some in income tax, but could make it up in
property tax. That's not so bad. NC is still about $7500 better, depending on
property tax. And I've heard the property tax is pretty small there.
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On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:14:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them.

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.


Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.


And that's SC, right? So, I'd lose some in income tax, but could make it up in
property tax. That's not so bad. NC is still about $7500 better, depending on
property tax. And I've heard the property tax is pretty small there.


===

Some, perhaps all, counties in SC have a personal property tax on
things like boats and cars. We got into a monumental legal hassel one
year when Charleston County thought we owed property tax on our boat.
They were threatening to have USCG seize the boat and auction it off
until I got my son the lawyer involved. The whole claim was bogus of
course and was apparently triggered by a two day stay at the
Charleston City Marina. We like Charleston but I will never again
take the boat into a marina there.
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On 3/8/2015 3:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:14:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them.

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.

Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.


And that's SC, right? So, I'd lose some in income tax, but could make it up in
property tax. That's not so bad. NC is still about $7500 better, depending on
property tax. And I've heard the property tax is pretty small there.


===

Some, perhaps all, counties in SC have a personal property tax on
things like boats and cars. We got into a monumental legal hassel one
year when Charleston County thought we owed property tax on our boat.
They were threatening to have USCG seize the boat and auction it off
until I got my son the lawyer involved. The whole claim was bogus of
course and was apparently triggered by a two day stay at the
Charleston City Marina. We like Charleston but I will never again
take the boat into a marina there.



I've heard of similar tax issues in Florida. Something about staying in
Florida waters or marinas for more than a certain time period. I think
(but am not sure) that it may have been 60 or 90 days. I recall reading
that taking a trip to another state to fuel up and keep the receipt as
proof that you were not continuously in Florida for the given time
period was one way of avoiding the tax.

That all said, when I took the Navigator to Florida it was there for
over 2 years. It was USCG documented but I think I was still supposed
to register or report it as being berthed in Florida. I didn't (because
I didn't know at the time) and I never heard any complaints.
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On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:02:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/8/2015 3:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:14:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them.

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.

Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.

And that's SC, right? So, I'd lose some in income tax, but could make it up in
property tax. That's not so bad. NC is still about $7500 better, depending on
property tax. And I've heard the property tax is pretty small there.


===

Some, perhaps all, counties in SC have a personal property tax on
things like boats and cars. We got into a monumental legal hassel one
year when Charleston County thought we owed property tax on our boat.
They were threatening to have USCG seize the boat and auction it off
until I got my son the lawyer involved. The whole claim was bogus of
course and was apparently triggered by a two day stay at the
Charleston City Marina. We like Charleston but I will never again
take the boat into a marina there.



I've heard of similar tax issues in Florida. Something about staying in
Florida waters or marinas for more than a certain time period. I think
(but am not sure) that it may have been 60 or 90 days. I recall reading
that taking a trip to another state to fuel up and keep the receipt as
proof that you were not continuously in Florida for the given time
period was one way of avoiding the tax.

That all said, when I took the Navigator to Florida it was there for
over 2 years. It was USCG documented but I think I was still supposed
to register or report it as being berthed in Florida. I didn't (because
I didn't know at the time) and I never heard any complaints.


You may have been very lucky. Here the marinas are required to notify the county
government of boats being kept there. Luckily, the marinas on military installations
aren't required to meet that requirement.
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John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:02:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/8/2015 3:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:14:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many
tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just
don't advertise them.

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state
income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston
might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.

Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.

And that's SC, right? So, I'd lose some in income tax, but could make it up in
property tax. That's not so bad. NC is still about $7500 better, depending on
property tax. And I've heard the property tax is pretty small there.

===

Some, perhaps all, counties in SC have a personal property tax on
things like boats and cars. We got into a monumental legal hassel one
year when Charleston County thought we owed property tax on our boat.
They were threatening to have USCG seize the boat and auction it off
until I got my son the lawyer involved. The whole claim was bogus of
course and was apparently triggered by a two day stay at the
Charleston City Marina. We like Charleston but I will never again
take the boat into a marina there.



I've heard of similar tax issues in Florida. Something about staying in
Florida waters or marinas for more than a certain time period. I think
(but am not sure) that it may have been 60 or 90 days. I recall reading
that taking a trip to another state to fuel up and keep the receipt as
proof that you were not continuously in Florida for the given time
period was one way of avoiding the tax.

That all said, when I took the Navigator to Florida it was there for
over 2 years. It was USCG documented but I think I was still supposed
to register or report it as being berthed in Florida. I didn't (because
I didn't know at the time) and I never heard any complaints.


You may have been very lucky. Here the marinas are required to notify the county
government of boats being kept there. Luckily, the marinas on military installations
aren't required to meet that requirement.


California figures the tax is due in the county where the boat is no
January 1.
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On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 19:36:39 -0500, Califbill wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 16:02:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/8/2015 3:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:14:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many
tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just
don't advertise them.

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state
income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston
might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.

Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.

And that's SC, right? So, I'd lose some in income tax, but could make it up in
property tax. That's not so bad. NC is still about $7500 better, depending on
property tax. And I've heard the property tax is pretty small there.

===

Some, perhaps all, counties in SC have a personal property tax on
things like boats and cars. We got into a monumental legal hassel one
year when Charleston County thought we owed property tax on our boat.
They were threatening to have USCG seize the boat and auction it off
until I got my son the lawyer involved. The whole claim was bogus of
course and was apparently triggered by a two day stay at the
Charleston City Marina. We like Charleston but I will never again
take the boat into a marina there.



I've heard of similar tax issues in Florida. Something about staying in
Florida waters or marinas for more than a certain time period. I think
(but am not sure) that it may have been 60 or 90 days. I recall reading
that taking a trip to another state to fuel up and keep the receipt as
proof that you were not continuously in Florida for the given time
period was one way of avoiding the tax.

That all said, when I took the Navigator to Florida it was there for
over 2 years. It was USCG documented but I think I was still supposed
to register or report it as being berthed in Florida. I didn't (because
I didn't know at the time) and I never heard any complaints.


You may have been very lucky. Here the marinas are required to notify the county
government of boats being kept there. Luckily, the marinas on military installations
aren't required to meet that requirement.


California figures the tax is due in the county where the boat is no
January 1.


Ditto.
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On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:38:21 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:14:49 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:57:40 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them.

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.

Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.


And that's SC, right? So, I'd lose some in income tax, but could make it up in
property tax. That's not so bad. NC is still about $7500 better, depending on
property tax. And I've heard the property tax is pretty small there.


===

Some, perhaps all, counties in SC have a personal property tax on
things like boats and cars. We got into a monumental legal hassel one
year when Charleston County thought we owed property tax on our boat.
They were threatening to have USCG seize the boat and auction it off
until I got my son the lawyer involved. The whole claim was bogus of
course and was apparently triggered by a two day stay at the
Charleston City Marina. We like Charleston but I will never again
take the boat into a marina there.


I traded in the Proline in Essex County at a Key West dealer. Almost a year later, I
tried to get tags for my truck. The computer wouldn't let me. I called the DMV folks
who told me that Essex County had put a stop on DMV transactions because I hadn't
paid the property tax on my boat. It took several phone calls and letters to get my
name disassociated from that damn boat.

I know what you mean.
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On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 14:58:34 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 3/8/2015 1:57 PM, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 12:44:10 PM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 12:24:00 -0400,
wrote:

On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT), John H
wrote:

On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 9:30:26 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Sunday, March 8, 2015 at 8:46:27 AM UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 05:20:12 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


Besides, few South Carolinians go to Myrtle Beach. Way too many tourists, and there are better beaches in SC to visit. We just don't advertise them.

Speaking of SC, I just did a quickie calculation of what my state income tax would be down there. It's right at $3000 more than I pay here!

I'll have to look at property taxes. My wife thinks Charleston might be nice. What do you think? Is the humidity atrocious?

If you went to Florida there would be no income tax at all and I am
not sure how property taxes compare. On a $200k (appraised value)
home, the tax is $1687 with the homestead adjustment.. These
appraisals are intentionally low so they do not have to adjust therm
when we have a housing slump like they did a few years ago.

Here, on a $615K (appraised value) home, the taxes are $7285.


Ouch. ~500K, $2200 here.



Is that appraised tax value of just the house or house and property?


For me, it's total. (I'm not very wealthy!)
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