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On Friday, February 27, 2015 at 7:01:02 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/27/2015 6:07 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/27/15 4:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:08:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/27/15 3:58 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Big Bang just a bunch of bunk?

Universe has no beginning?

Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible,
just like modern day descriptions of black holes.

http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html

This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we
can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as
provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event
13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe
theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse
back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It
also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond
what we call our universe, doing the same thing.

One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we
bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there
than we ever suspected before.


"god did it"

Right, and Barney Rubble had pet dinosaurs.



It is interesting that is all you saw in the whole post.
You really are obsessed



There isn't an iota of "proof" for the existence of god. Nothing, zip,
zilch, nada.



The god you seek proof of may not exist in the form that you are
expecting to witness. When I view the Hubble Telescope's famous
image, "Pillars of Creation" I am both awed and humbled. I think
sometimes pure arrogance and self importance can be blinding.

http://i.space.com/images/i/000/044/723/original/pillars-of-creation-eagle-nebula-new-image.jpg?1420556219

"I think sometimes pure arrogance and self importance can be blinding."

I didn't realize harry was blind.

[RGrew176]

Originally Posted by Keyser Söze

On 2/27/15 4:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:08:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/27/15 3:58 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Big Bang just a bunch of bunk?

Universe has no beginning?

Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible,
just like modern day descriptions of black holes.

http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html

This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we
can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as
provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event
13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe
theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse
back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It
also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond
what we call our universe, doing the same thing.

One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we
bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there
than we ever suspected before.


"god did it"

Right, and Barney Rubble had pet dinosaurs.



It is interesting that is all you saw in the whole post.
You really are obsessed



There isn't an iota of "proof" for the existence of god. Nothing, zip,
zilch, nada.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

One could also state that there is no "proof" that God does not exist

[Mr. Luddite]

On 2/27/2015 4:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:08:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/27/15 3:58 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Big Bang just a bunch of bunk?

Universe has no beginning?

Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible,
just like modern day descriptions of black holes.

http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html

This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we
can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as
provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event
13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe
theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse
back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It
also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond
what we call our universe, doing the same thing.

One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we
bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there
than we ever suspected before.


"god did it"

Right, and Barney Rubble had pet dinosaurs.



It is interesting that is all you saw in the whole post.
You really are obsessed


When brilliant minds start talking about no beginning to the universe I
quickly realize the limitations of my own ability to process what that
means. I understand the words we have assigned to the concept but I
lack the brain power to fully comprehend what it means.

There are about 7 billion people inhabiting the earth.
There are about 300 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy.
There are about 100 billion *observable* galaxies.
Who knows how many we can't see.

Mind blowing.

"God did it" has just about as much validity as a universe with no
beginning.

[Keyser Söze]

On 2/27/15 6:48 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/27/2015 4:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:08:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/27/15 3:58 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Big Bang just a bunch of bunk?

Universe has no beginning?

Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible,
just like modern day descriptions of black holes.

http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html

This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we
can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as
provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event
13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe
theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse
back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It
also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond
what we call our universe, doing the same thing.

One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we
bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there
than we ever suspected before.


"god did it"

Right, and Barney Rubble had pet dinosaurs.



It is interesting that is all you saw in the whole post.
You really are obsessed


When brilliant minds start talking about no beginning to the universe I
quickly realize the limitations of my own ability to process what that
means. I understand the words we have assigned to the concept but I
lack the brain power to fully comprehend what it means.

There are about 7 billion people inhabiting the earth.
There are about 300 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy.
There are about 100 billion *observable* galaxies.
Who knows how many we can't see.

Mind blowing.

"God did it" has just about as much validity as a universe with no
beginning.




"God did it" means you've given up looking for the truth.
Before the advent of modern medicine and a much higher percentage of
people died from all sorts of simple accidents and ailments than they do
now, people used to say (and still do, I suppose) "It's god's will."

They said that because they and those around them hadn't solved certain
mysteries and "pinning it" on god was easy.

If there is a god, why does he/she allow so many innocent small children
to die of such horrific ailments like cancer, diabetes, et cetera. Some
god.

We have nothing but each other. Believing in the spiritual or
supernatural today is no different than the ancient Egyptians believing
in their gods made of stone.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

[Justan Olphart]

On 2/27/2015 6:59 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/27/15 6:48 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/27/2015 4:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:08:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/27/15 3:58 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Big Bang just a bunch of bunk?

Universe has no beginning?

Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible,
just like modern day descriptions of black holes.

http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html

This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we
can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as
provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event
13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe
theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse
back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It
also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond
what we call our universe, doing the same thing.

One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we
bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there
than we ever suspected before.


"god did it"

Right, and Barney Rubble had pet dinosaurs.



It is interesting that is all you saw in the whole post.
You really are obsessed


When brilliant minds start talking about no beginning to the universe I
quickly realize the limitations of my own ability to process what that
means. I understand the words we have assigned to the concept but I
lack the brain power to fully comprehend what it means.

There are about 7 billion people inhabiting the earth.
There are about 300 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy.
There are about 100 billion *observable* galaxies.
Who knows how many we can't see.

Mind blowing.

"God did it" has just about as much validity as a universe with no
beginning.




"God did it" means you've given up looking for the truth.
Before the advent of modern medicine and a much higher percentage of
people died from all sorts of simple accidents and ailments than they do
now, people used to say (and still do, I suppose) "It's god's will."

They said that because they and those around them hadn't solved certain
mysteries and "pinning it" on god was easy.

If there is a god, why does he/she allow so many innocent small children
to die of such horrific ailments like cancer, diabetes, et cetera. Some
god.

We have nothing but each other.

Or, why did you and others let so many of those children die because you
refused to pay your taxes, which, in part, pay for medical research.


--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

[Mr. Luddite]

On 2/27/2015 6:59 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/27/15 6:48 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/27/2015 4:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:08:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/27/15 3:58 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Big Bang just a bunch of bunk?

Universe has no beginning?

Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible,
just like modern day descriptions of black holes.

http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html

This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we
can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as
provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event
13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe
theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse
back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It
also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond
what we call our universe, doing the same thing.

One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we
bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there
than we ever suspected before.


"god did it"

Right, and Barney Rubble had pet dinosaurs.



It is interesting that is all you saw in the whole post.
You really are obsessed


When brilliant minds start talking about no beginning to the universe I
quickly realize the limitations of my own ability to process what that
means. I understand the words we have assigned to the concept but I
lack the brain power to fully comprehend what it means.

There are about 7 billion people inhabiting the earth.
There are about 300 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy.
There are about 100 billion *observable* galaxies.
Who knows how many we can't see.

Mind blowing.

"God did it" has just about as much validity as a universe with no
beginning.




"God did it" means you've given up looking for the truth.
Before the advent of modern medicine and a much higher percentage of
people died from all sorts of simple accidents and ailments than they do
now, people used to say (and still do, I suppose) "It's god's will."

They said that because they and those around them hadn't solved certain
mysteries and "pinning it" on god was easy.

If there is a god, why does he/she allow so many innocent small children
to die of such horrific ailments like cancer, diabetes, et cetera. Some
god.

We have nothing but each other. Believing in the spiritual or
supernatural today is no different than the ancient Egyptians believing
in their gods made of stone.



Now it's time for you to be scolded about reading for content.
I didn't say I have "given up looking for the truth".
All I said was "God did it" has just about as much validity as a
universe with no beginning ... mainly because I can't mentally
comprehend either concept. I doubt many can if they are honest.

[Keyser Söze]

"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/27/2015 6:59 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/27/15 6:48 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/27/2015 4:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:08:39 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/27/15 3:58 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Big Bang just a bunch of bunk?

Universe has no beginning?

Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible,
just like modern day descriptions of black holes.

http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html

This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we
can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as
provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event
13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe
theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse
back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It
also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond
what we call our universe, doing the same thing.

One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we
bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there
than we ever suspected before.


"god did it"

Right, and Barney Rubble had pet dinosaurs.



It is interesting that is all you saw in the whole post.
You really are obsessed


When brilliant minds start talking about no beginning to the universe I
quickly realize the limitations of my own ability to process what that
means. I understand the words we have assigned to the concept but I
lack the brain power to fully comprehend what it means.

There are about 7 billion people inhabiting the earth.
There are about 300 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy.
There are about 100 billion *observable* galaxies.
Who knows how many we can't see.

Mind blowing.

"God did it" has just about as much validity as a universe with no
beginning.




"God did it" means you've given up looking for the truth.
Before the advent of modern medicine and a much higher percentage of
people died from all sorts of simple accidents and ailments than they do
now, people used to say (and still do, I suppose) "It's god's will."

They said that because they and those around them hadn't solved certain
mysteries and "pinning it" on god was easy.

If there is a god, why does he/she allow so many innocent small children
to die of such horrific ailments like cancer, diabetes, et cetera. Some
god.

We have nothing but each other. Believing in the spiritual or
supernatural today is no different than the ancient Egyptians believing
in their gods made of stone.



Now it's time for you to be scolded about reading for content.
I didn't say I have "given up looking for the truth".
All I said was "God did it" has just about as much validity as a
universe with no beginning ... mainly because I can't mentally comprehend
either concept. I doubt many can if they are honest.

God did it is an intellectual cop out for a scientist.
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

[Wayne.B]

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 18:48:43 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Mind blowing.

"God did it" has just about as much validity as a universe with no
beginning.

===

It certainly is mind blowing.

Most of the "god" problem seems to stem from a desire to assign
intelligent, benovelent, anthropomorphic characteristics. That's just
a bit of human presumptuousness in my opinion.

[Wayne.B]

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:58:36 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Big Bang just a bunch of bunk?

Universe has no beginning?

Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible,
just like modern day descriptions of black holes.

http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html

This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we
can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as
provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event
13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe
theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse
back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It
also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond
what we call our universe, doing the same thing.

One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we
bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there
than we ever suspected before.

===

One thing we know for su The universe(s) is/are a very strange
thing. It sometimes seems that the more we know, the more we don't
know. Our very existence is something of a miracle and the various
religions and scientists of the world will be arguing creation
scenarios for a long time to come.

[jps]

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:58:36 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Big Bang just a bunch of bunk?

Universe has no beginning?

Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible,
just like modern day descriptions of black holes.

http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html

This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we
can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as
provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event
13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe
theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse
back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It
also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond
what we call our universe, doing the same thing.

One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we
bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there
than we ever suspected before.

Gobsmacked by "god did it" as in any way comparable to bang and
entropy.

Why do you so easily go over the edge into the intellectual abyss?