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Big Bang just a bunch of bunk? Universe has no beginning? Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible, just like modern day descriptions of black holes. http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html |
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On 2/27/15 2:49 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
Big Bang just a bunch of bunk? Universe has no beginning? Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible, just like modern day descriptions of black holes. http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html Thanks...been reading some rumblings about this, but your cite was the clearest I've seen -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 2/27/15 3:58 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Big Bang just a bunch of bunk? Universe has no beginning? Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible, just like modern day descriptions of black holes. http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event 13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond what we call our universe, doing the same thing. One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there than we ever suspected before. "god did it" Right, and Barney Rubble had pet dinosaurs. :) -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 2/27/15 4:04 PM, John H. wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:58:36 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Big Bang just a bunch of bunk? Universe has no beginning? Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible, just like modern day descriptions of black holes. http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event 13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond what we call our universe, doing the same thing. One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there than we ever suspected before. Maybe we'll learn in afterlife. The only "afterlife" you're going to have is as worm food. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:58:36 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Big Bang just a bunch of bunk? Universe has no beginning? Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible, just like modern day descriptions of black holes. http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event 13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond what we call our universe, doing the same thing. One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there than we ever suspected before. === One thing we know for su The universe(s) is/are a very strange thing. It sometimes seems that the more we know, the more we don't know. Our very existence is something of a miracle and the various religions and scientists of the world will be arguing creation scenarios for a long time to come. |
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On 2/27/15 4:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:08:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/27/15 3:58 PM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Big Bang just a bunch of bunk? Universe has no beginning? Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible, just like modern day descriptions of black holes. http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event 13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond what we call our universe, doing the same thing. One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there than we ever suspected before. "god did it" Right, and Barney Rubble had pet dinosaurs. :) It is interesting that is all you saw in the whole post. You really are obsessed There isn't an iota of "proof" for the existence of god. Nothing, zip, zilch, nada. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 2/27/2015 4:43 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:08:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/27/15 3:58 PM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Big Bang just a bunch of bunk? Universe has no beginning? Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible, just like modern day descriptions of black holes. http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event 13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond what we call our universe, doing the same thing. One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there than we ever suspected before. "god did it" Right, and Barney Rubble had pet dinosaurs. :) It is interesting that is all you saw in the whole post. You really are obsessed When brilliant minds start talking about no beginning to the universe I quickly realize the limitations of my own ability to process what that means. I understand the words we have assigned to the concept but I lack the brain power to fully comprehend what it means. There are about 7 billion people inhabiting the earth. There are about 300 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy. There are about 100 billion *observable* galaxies. Who knows how many we can't see. Mind blowing. "God did it" has just about as much validity as a universe with no beginning. |
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On 2/27/15 6:48 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/27/2015 4:43 PM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:08:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/27/15 3:58 PM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Big Bang just a bunch of bunk? Universe has no beginning? Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible, just like modern day descriptions of black holes. http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event 13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond what we call our universe, doing the same thing. One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there than we ever suspected before. "god did it" Right, and Barney Rubble had pet dinosaurs. :) It is interesting that is all you saw in the whole post. You really are obsessed When brilliant minds start talking about no beginning to the universe I quickly realize the limitations of my own ability to process what that means. I understand the words we have assigned to the concept but I lack the brain power to fully comprehend what it means. There are about 7 billion people inhabiting the earth. There are about 300 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy. There are about 100 billion *observable* galaxies. Who knows how many we can't see. Mind blowing. "God did it" has just about as much validity as a universe with no beginning. "God did it" means you've given up looking for the truth. Before the advent of modern medicine and a much higher percentage of people died from all sorts of simple accidents and ailments than they do now, people used to say (and still do, I suppose) "It's god's will." They said that because they and those around them hadn't solved certain mysteries and "pinning it" on god was easy. If there is a god, why does he/she allow so many innocent small children to die of such horrific ailments like cancer, diabetes, et cetera. Some god. We have nothing but each other. Believing in the spiritual or supernatural today is no different than the ancient Egyptians believing in their gods made of stone. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On 2/27/2015 6:07 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/27/15 4:43 PM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 16:08:39 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/27/15 3:58 PM, wrote: On Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:49:16 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Big Bang just a bunch of bunk? Universe has no beginning? Maybe it's back to thinking it's made up of ether. Invisible, just like modern day descriptions of black holes. http://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html This is really an unknowable but the understanding of the things we can know is advancing science. At this point "god did it" is as provable as the big bang. What was there before the predicted event 13.8 billion years ago? I do tend to lean towards the closed universe theory and after expanding for a while the whole thing will collapse back on itself again. That is reconciled with the "bounce" theory. It also leaves open the likelihood that there are other systems beyond what we call our universe, doing the same thing. One thing is certain, the more we find out, the more questions we bring up and it becomes clearer that there is still more out there than we ever suspected before. "god did it" Right, and Barney Rubble had pet dinosaurs. :) It is interesting that is all you saw in the whole post. You really are obsessed There isn't an iota of "proof" for the existence of god. Nothing, zip, zilch, nada. The god you seek proof of may not exist in the form that you are expecting to witness. When I view the Hubble Telescope's famous image, "Pillars of Creation" I am both awed and humbled. I think sometimes pure arrogance and self importance can be blinding. http://i.space.com/images/i/000/044/723/original/pillars-of-creation-eagle-nebula-new-image.jpg?1420556219 |
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