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Mr. Luddite February 17th 15 10:51 AM
Navy Carrier Pilots - Overpaid?
 
On 2/16/2015 11:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:49:05 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -


Snip...
"Heard something on the new the other day about proposed regulations
governing RC and drone flying. One was an FAA Certificate which, I
assume, means a demonstration of basic proficiency."


Oh oh...there goes Johnny's short career.

The proposed rule would only apply to commercial operators and this is
about drones, not conventional RC aircraft.



Depends on how you interpret the wording ... and it certainly appears to
apply to recreational flying as well as commercial. Summary:

The Federal Aviation Administration today is publishing new proposed
rules for "small unmanned aircraft systems" — commonly (but not entirely
accurately) referred to as "drones" — that would require an operator
certificate and the user to be at least 17 years old. The proposed rules
also would dictate when and where and how such "unmanned aerial
systems," such as (but not limited to) the type controlled by
smartphones and tablets could be flown.

The broad strokes for platforms weighing less than 4 pounds:

Be older than 17 and pass a written test every two years.
The operator must be in visual contact with the aircraft without using
cameras or binoculars.
No flying over people, unless they're the ones controlling the aircraft.
A 500-foot altitude limit.
Aircraft can't fly faster than 100 mph.
Other obvious rules such as not straying into airport flight paths or
restricted airspace, or posing "a hazard to other aircraft, people or
property."


"small unmanned aircraft systems" .... "unmanned aerial systems" ....
"aircraft" .... that would seem to include more than just "drones".

[email protected] February 17th 15 12:24 PM
Navy Carrier Pilots - Overpaid?
 
On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 9:07:56 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/16/15 8:19 PM, wrote:
On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 6:57:42 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:

Works with other toys, too, like model railroad layouts.

That's stupid. You don't have to steer a model railroad.


You've heard of switches, right?

Switches move the train from one track to another.

The track itself "steers" the train.

Keyser Söze February 17th 15 01:10 PM
Navy Carrier Pilots - Overpaid?
 
On 2/16/15 11:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:49:05 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -


Snip...
"Heard something on the new the other day about proposed regulations
governing RC and drone flying. One was an FAA Certificate which, I
assume, means a demonstration of basic proficiency."


Oh oh...there goes Johnny's short career.

The proposed rule would only apply to commercial operators and this is
about drones, not conventional RC aircraft.


Ah...the nine-year-old kids down the street who fly RC airplanes will be
relieved.

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

Mr. Luddite February 17th 15 02:41 PM
Navy Carrier Pilots - Overpaid?
 
On 2/17/2015 7:24 AM, wrote:
On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 9:07:56 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/16/15 8:19 PM, wrote:
On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 6:57:42 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:

Works with other toys, too, like model railroad layouts.

That's stupid. You don't have to steer a model railroad.


You've heard of switches, right?

Switches move the train from one track to another.

The track itself "steers" the train.



True but pilots don't "steer" a plane either. They fly them.

Keyser Söze February 17th 15 04:10 PM
Navy Carrier Pilots - Overpaid?
 
On 2/17/15 11:00 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:41:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 2/17/2015 7:24 AM, wrote:
On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 9:07:56 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/16/15 8:19 PM, wrote:
On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 6:57:42 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:

Works with other toys, too, like model railroad layouts.

That's stupid. You don't have to steer a model railroad.


You've heard of switches, right?

Switches move the train from one track to another.

The track itself "steers" the train.



True but pilots don't "steer" a plane either. They fly them.


I think the point is I can start the G gauge train that runs around
the house and go for a boat ride. It will still be going when I get
back.
You can't walk away from the controller of your RC plane and expect it
to still be flying safely even a minute later.


Your toys are better than Herring's toys? :)

Got a rubber ducky for the tub?

--
Proud to be a Liberal.

[email protected] February 17th 15 04:17 PM
Navy Carrier Pilots - Overpaid?
 
On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 8:11:00 AM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/16/15 11:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:49:05 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -


Snip...
"Heard something on the new the other day about proposed regulations
governing RC and drone flying. One was an FAA Certificate which, I
assume, means a demonstration of basic proficiency."


Oh oh...there goes Johnny's short career.

The proposed rule would only apply to commercial operators and this is
about drones, not conventional RC aircraft.


Ah...the nine-year-old kids down the street who fly RC airplanes will be
relieved.

And when I was 9 I was already quite proficient at target shooting with various pistols and rifle.

So what's your point?

[email protected] February 17th 15 04:19 PM
Navy Carrier Pilots - Overpaid?
 
On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 9:41:20 AM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/17/2015 7:24 AM, wrote:
On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 9:07:56 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/16/15 8:19 PM, wrote:
On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 6:57:42 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:

Works with other toys, too, like model railroad layouts.

That's stupid. You don't have to steer a model railroad.


You've heard of switches, right?

Switches move the train from one track to another.

The track itself "steers" the train.


True but pilots don't "steer" a plane either. They fly them.

Don't try to loogy me. :)

Steer: to direct the course of a vessel, vehicle, airplane, or the like, by the use of a rudder or other means.

KC February 17th 15 04:45 PM
Navy Carrier Pilots - Overpaid?
 
On 2/16/2015 6:31 PM, wrote:
On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 12:25:26 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:

The big difference between simulators/real airplanes and RC airplanes - in sims or
real planes, the nose of the plane is in front of you. With an RC plane, at least
part of the time, the nose is pointed at you. That means the left and right controls
are reversed. This, I believe, is what causes the most problems, at least for me.

Another related difference is that pilots in a real plane has a seat of the pants, first person view. Not so with RC.

Something that helps newbies to RC is that when the airplane is flying towards you and the controls are reversed, your can turn your body so the transmitter is faced the same way as the plane, but look back over your shoulder at the plane. That way the stick moves to the right, the plane moves to the right. It's a crutch, but with some more stick time it'll come naturally.


I have seen them with a live screen so you can fly with a cockpit point
of view on your controller... Not sure how fast it updates for real time
but the one I saw was a quad copter so it was not as fast...

Abit Loco February 17th 15 04:59 PM
Navy Carrier Pilots - Overpaid?
 
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:57:40 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/16/15 6:51 PM, Abit Loco wrote:
On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:31:41 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 12:25:26 PM UTC-5, John H. wrote:

The big difference between simulators/real airplanes and RC airplanes - in sims or
real planes, the nose of the plane is in front of you. With an RC plane, at least
part of the time, the nose is pointed at you. That means the left and right controls
are reversed. This, I believe, is what causes the most problems, at least for me.

Another related difference is that pilots in a real plane has a seat of the pants, first person view. Not so with RC.

Something that helps newbies to RC is that when the airplane is flying towards you and the controls are reversed, your can turn your body so the transmitter is faced the same way as the plane, but look back over your shoulder at the plane. That way the stick moves to the right, the plane moves to the right. It's a crutch, but with some more stick time it'll come naturally.

Believe it or not, I learned that the last time I was out. A turn of the body sure
helps.


Works with other toys, too, like model railroad layouts.

Better stick to your liberal stuff.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Abit Loco February 17th 15 05:04 PM
Navy Carrier Pilots - Overpaid?
 
On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:41:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/17/2015 7:24 AM, wrote:
On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 9:07:56 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/16/15 8:19 PM, wrote:
On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 6:57:42 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:

Works with other toys, too, like model railroad layouts.

That's stupid. You don't have to steer a model railroad.


You've heard of switches, right?

Switches move the train from one track to another.

The track itself "steers" the train.



True but pilots don't "steer" a plane either. They fly them.

From Dictionary.com:

verb (used without object)
4.
to direct the course of a vessel, vehicle, airplane, or the like, by the use of a
rudder or other means.

One could say that a pilot does, in fact, steer his airplane. Trains are not
'steered'.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.


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